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Dangermousecatdog
United Kingdom7084 Posts
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evilfatsh1t
Australia8690 Posts
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GreenHorizons
United States23295 Posts
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Acrofales
Spain18050 Posts
On August 27 2018 22:37 GreenHorizons wrote: I'm just wondering how many people actually get the critique, because I get the impression it wasn't many people. It wasn't making light of their deaths at all. Really? On August 26 2018 10:44 Grumbels wrote: good riddance to war criminals Was how he opened that discussion. Seems to be making pretty light of it. His later posts were, imho, fine. He got banned for ignoring the warning seeker gave him to can it. When you mess with the bull you get the horns... | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States23295 Posts
On August 27 2018 22:41 Acrofales wrote: Really? Was how he opened that discussion. Seems to be making pretty light of it. His later posts were, imho, fine. He got banned for ignoring the warning seeker gave him to can it. When you mess with the bull you get the horns... I was talking about Igne, but since you asked... + Show Spoiler + The discussion (or rather unmitigated praising) had already started. Grumbles post was the pithy (and reflective of the thread) opening salvo into the larger discussion he's not able to participate in going on in the US politics feedback thread. I'm trying to stay out of that one for now but I've made my case there. I suggest starting about here if you're interested in understanding more about the situation. | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18050 Posts
On August 27 2018 22:49 GreenHorizons wrote: I was talking about Igne, but since you asked... + Show Spoiler + The discussion (or rather unmitigated praising) had already started. Grumbles post was the pithy (and reflective of the thread) opening salvo into the larger discussion he's not able to participate in going on in the US politics feedback thread. I'm trying to stay out of that one for now but I've made my case there. I suggest starting about here if you're interested in understanding more about the situation. Ok, I only really saw what IgnE posted from what was cited here. Him posting pithy one-liners that get him banned are not something new. Him being completely misunderstood by almost everybody is also nothing new. So sounds like IgnE in a nutshell  I also don't really feel like re-litigating the whole McCain died thing. I agree with you (and with Grumbels) that him dying doesn't mean we should stop being critical of him. I disagree that "being an asshole" is the way to do it. And insofar as I understand things, grumbels got banned for being an asshole about it, first and foremost. Nobody else got warned for bringing up (valid) criticism of McCain's actions throughout his career, did they? | ||
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LegalLord
United Kingdom13775 Posts
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Aquanim
Australia2849 Posts
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
On August 28 2018 01:23 kalikalik wrote: I think based on the past few pages it's quite clear how subjectivity is supposed to be interpreted in this thread. Good job serving your Imperial Masters. Do you types just have a special bond with other authoritarians which leads you to a strong desire to protect them? Or do you just like being given the reins over your fellow man to oppress "as you see fit"? That is exactly why I have rejected offers to act as "moderator" on various chat channels and forums that I've frequented over the years. Because I don't think turning into some fascist pig white washing history as it unfolds, just like you are doing right now, is "something good" that warrants doing. And on that note, I would like to take this moment to remember the War Hero Osama Bin Laden. https://i.imgur.com/hBVnIPV.jpg We may have had our disagreements and he himself has admitted to making mistakes. But after he learned about the lies of his first victorious war against the Glorious Soviet Union, he turned his righteous anger towards the true enemy. He fought valiantly, and -- based on the years after his death -- apparently toppled both the Empires that he fought. A truly great man that repeatedly showed a lot of integrity and courage in the face of absolutely overwhelming odds. An inspiration for us all. I assume that Seeker typing up a eloquent fuck you as being the only reason this guy didn't get nuked yet. He's totally a PBU though, right? | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands21793 Posts
On August 28 2018 01:27 ticklishmusic wrote: I only reported it like 30 seconds ago.I assume that Seeker typing up a eloquent fuck you as being the only reason this guy didn't get nuked yet. He's totally a PBU though, right? Give them a moment. | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
On August 28 2018 01:29 Gorsameth wrote: I only reported it like 30 seconds ago. Give them a moment. I saw it and it had already been reported. I wanted to pad my stats! /shakes fist | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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Dangermousecatdog
United Kingdom7084 Posts
On August 27 2018 22:37 GreenHorizons wrote: I understand that he is mocking the "freedom" crowd as he wasn't exactly subtle, but that wasn't that argument people were making here.I'm just wondering how many people actually get the critique, because I get the impression it wasn't many people. It wasn't making light of their deaths at all. | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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Paljas
Germany6926 Posts
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37032 Posts
On August 28 2018 05:22 JimmiC wrote: How come he is banned now but does not show up on the automated ban list? BigFan banned him but unchecked the "Show this ban in the public Automated Ban List?" box for some reason. | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
On August 28 2018 05:29 Paljas wrote: so, why was kalikalik banned? He doesnt seem to appear in the ABL. you can see his post in my comment above where i quoted it. this is kind of a random question, but is there any sort of trend in adbots? like, are there more during certain parts of the year? is there a correlation to overall TL traffic/ activity? | ||
Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
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xM(Z
Romania5281 Posts
On August 27 2018 21:37 Dangermousecatdog wrote: (@Acrofales too)it's about doing good, not so much about being good(the former is quantifiable, the later rather subjective).Being a "good" member (whatever that means) shouldn't provide immunity from dropping shitpost one liners. To put it into context, that was a thread discussing a recent mass murder. If someone can get banned here for criticising a public figure, then they should certainly get banned for writing "live free or die" when several people have been murdered violently. for /b: one liners are not inherently bad, they're not born in sin nor they carry the sins of their fathers. someone on TL, on a rainy day, decided that one liners are bad, that they don't meet <requirements> and that was it. one liners are used and appreciated by people, from literary circles to graffiti scribbles, to popular sayings/common phrases etc; they have worth, value and can carry bits or pieces of knowledge. if your problem is with the shitty part of it then know that's the subjective part of it, when people jump in and start interpreting it a certain(often negative) way; but even there, something negatively connoted can be good, it can trigger good changes. from sarcasm to downright mockery/insult a figure of speech has value and/or worth. (you, defending the one liners Charlie Hebdo makes in which it's insulting persons, Gods, situations ... etc while rejecting them here, shows me you have some mental discomfort going on somewhere in there). but as far as you're concerned, if someone decides something(the one liner in this case) is not welcomed, you're not supposed to act as if that's the new word of God and start policing based on it; realize that a just as a human made it, another human can unmake it. what you need to do tho is value or devalue the practical effect of it, of its meaning. (if it triggers a positive change then it's good even though the one liner is/was negatively constructed) @Acrofales: But IgnE is known as a bit of a rebel, and Grumbels went and did something particularly stupid/nasty. So what exactly is the problem? the problem is that when you judge a person you always need to also question the rule based on which you judged him; human evolution dictates you do that(it's how and why (for ex.)gays have (more)rights now, or how public executions were abolished in the western world, or why capital punishment is questioned now etc).if the rule is whimsical, you (work to)decrease the punishment for it and diminish your resolve towards it; you need to see it as an unfortunate happening not as a righteous display of order being restored. Restorative fucking justice: Restorative justice is an approach to justice in which the response to a crime is to organize a mediation between the victim and the offender, and sometimes with representatives of a wider community as well. The goal is to negotiate for a resolution to the satisfaction of all participants. This may include a restitution to be given from the offender to the victim, or to take steps to prevent the offender from causing future harm. instead of swinging the axe/hammer while mental masturbating.there's also a thing to be said about the energy/the resolve with which one approaches a subject/topic; it has value and worth but here it's almost instant-ban-able(stop acting like a crazy person!1!) which is just wrong, objectively. (an argument for another time maybe). | ||
Liquid`Drone
Norway28689 Posts
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