The Automated Ban List - Page 1329

On August 24 2012 06:05 Cokefreak wrote:
Portlandian was just temp banned for 1 week by KwarK.

That account was created on 2012-07-04 14:49:45 and had 33 posts.

Reason: Remaking a topic which has already been closed under the guise of a discussion of censorship on tl, a topic which would have been more appropriate to website feedback had you had any real intent to discuss it.
Owned: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=362821

On August 24 2012 04:39 Otolia wrote:

Like I said, we already had that discussion. This isn't me disagreeing with the bans you delivered but with the way you did it :



Everything is fine here until the last two sentences. Taken separately those are fine but combine with the rest, it just looks like you are imposing yours views unto him. I can't accept that because I think everyone is entitled to its opinion (and that's an opinion about how to live one's life - despicable and anti-social but still an opinion) but it's not a huge issue , whereas your lack of diplomacy makes me very uncomfortable.

You probably knows why a guy like him would post that, so why are you antagonizing him like this ? I don't mind him being kicked out of the website but I mind when you can't take 2 mins to try to explain to him why his opinion isn't acceptable socially. Without that the most likely consequence of the ban will be him being comforted in the idea that he rules over the world and per extension women. Which is not what you want !

Social work takes much more than just harsh social punishment. And TL despite having a good moderating corpse lacks the educating part, and maybe you feel it isn't TL moderators role to do that but I can't help but think that a small effort could sometimes makes things better.

On August 24 2012 05:17 KookyMonster wrote:
I seriously hope that these people being banned are trolls or just arguing for the sake of arguing, and don't actually believe the nonsense they are saying. I am glad it is being moderated, though.

On August 24 2012 07:22 Shock710 wrote:

well fuck those guys for trolling that thread it's not funny it's disgusting please think of the victims as if they were people u knew no one would be saying that shit, that thread needs to be closed due to the number of idiots in there and the number of horrible comments it will bring no one wants to go through that mess and look for bans, Kwark was nice enough to do it but it needs to be over...and Kwark is completely right to banned them and show his opinions on the matter he's a human being not a bot.

On August 24 2012 07:34 KwarK wrote:

Minds are being changed in there.

On August 24 2012 01:16 KwarK wrote:

I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic or not because you tend to express some strange views in the general forum but basically, yes. Also all those bans were for expressing the kind of disgusting stance on rape that would make you not want to hang out with them if you knew them in real life. If a guy came round to your house and said some appalling shit you'd tell him to get out, this is our house, I showed them the door.

On August 24 2012 08:05 Pillage wrote:


The point he's making is that it is rather unprofessional to hand out bans with such emotional reasons when you're a high ranking member on a notable website. It doesn't make TL look good when a banling hands out angry ban reasons, even if they're justified. You need to do your job with a cold neutrality that adheres strictly to the commandments, invoking emotion may win you points with the cheerleaders in here, but otherwise it really accomplishes nothing other than making the staff look childish.

On August 24 2012 08:05 Pillage wrote:


The point he's making is that it is rather unprofessional to hand out bans with such emotional reasons when you're a high ranking member on a notable website. It doesn't make TL look good when a banling hands out angry ban reasons, even if they're justified. You need to do your job with a cold neutrality that adheres strictly to the commandments, invoking emotion may win you points with the cheerleaders in here, but otherwise it really accomplishes nothing to be gained from it other than making the staff look childish.

On August 24 2012 08:05 Pillage wrote:


The point he's making is that it is rather unprofessional to hand out bans with such emotional reasons when you're a high ranking member on a notable website. It doesn't make TL look good when a banling hands out angry ban reasons, even if they're justified. You need to do your job with a cold neutrality that adheres strictly to the commandments, invoking emotion may win you points with the cheerleaders in here, but otherwise it really accomplishes nothing other than making the staff look childish.

On August 24 2012 08:07 KwarK wrote:

He said nothing of the sort and the commandments empower me to act as a gatekeeper for the house based upon my discretion.

On August 24 2012 08:12 Pillage wrote:


I am disappointed that you have not chosen to strive for a higher standard in your moderation.

On August 24 2012 08:09 Blazinghand wrote:


I strongly disagree. I think that emotionality is human, and Kwark's emotions are fair and just. The fact of the matter is, Commandment 1 reads THIS IS OUR HOUSE-- I wouldn't let people say what some people are saying in that thread in my house. If I was hosting a party and they did this, I'd kick them out. I wouldn't need to be a cold, soulless robot while I did it to be legitimate.

You can say we're cheerleaders, but if that's the case I can call you a hater This sort of label doesn't contribute to the discussion in any particular fashion.

So yes, today we've learned that the TL mod staff are humans, and that not being a super-robot when giving out bans is an acceptable way of doing things.

On August 24 2012 08:12 Pillage wrote:


I am disappointed that you have not chosen to strive for a higher standard in your moderation.

On August 24 2012 08:20 KwarK wrote:

I tend not to moderate people in arguments in which I am directly involved in. The bans today were all for rape apologism and the like and were done in a calm fashion. If I feel I am at risk of being impartial I hand it over to another mod in an attempt to be professional but my accountability is to Nazgul and Meat alone. Keeping their site clean of the worst excesses of the sexism prevalent throughout the internet seems not to have been a problem thus far.

Your response to believing you found a loophole in rape law whereby you could rape a girl and be in the clear as long as you raped her anally was "lol awesome".
Go sit on the naughty step and have a long think about your life.

Your stance of "as a man I am physically programmed to fuck as many women as possible and an unfortunately that means I may inadvertently rape a few but that's just how it is" makes me physically uncomfortable. I dislike that I share a website with you. I dislike that I share a gender with you. Please rethink your life.

Using the word slut to describe a victim as part of a rape justification. That kind of shit really, really pisses me off.

I was gonna give you a 1 week but you have a shitty moderation history so basically I can do whatever the fuck I like with you. Bye!

Your mod history and posting leads me to believe there is nothing you can offer this site. A tempban is designed to encourage you to fix your behaviour. This is me asking you to leave.

Stop doing that.