• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 21:22
CET 03:22
KST 11:22
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
Weekly Cups (Dec 15-21): Classic wins big, MaxPax & Clem take weeklies1ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !10Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win4Weekly Cups (Dec 1-7): Clem doubles, Solar gets over the hump1Weekly Cups (Nov 24-30): MaxPax, Clem, herO win2
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (Dec 15-21): Classic wins big, MaxPax & Clem take weeklies ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career ! Micro Lags When Playing SC2? When will we find out if there are more tournament Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win
Tourneys
$5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament $100 Prize Pool - Winter Warp Gate Masters Showdow Winter Warp Gate Amateur Showdown #1 RSL Offline Finals Info - Dec 13 and 14!
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 505 Rise From Ashes Mutation # 504 Retribution Mutation # 503 Fowl Play Mutation # 502 Negative Reinforcement
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Klaucher discontinued / in-game color settings Anyone remember me from 2000s Bnet EAST server? How Rain Became ProGamer in Just 3 Months FlaSh on: Biggest Problem With SnOw's Playstyle
Tourneys
[BSL21] LB QuarterFinals - Sunday 21:00 CET Small VOD Thread 2.0 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] WB SEMIFINALS - Saturday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Game Theory for Starcraft Current Meta Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason Path of Exile General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Survivor II: The Amazon Sengoku Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread YouTube Thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TL+ Announced Where to ask questions and add stream?
Blogs
The (Hidden) Drug Problem in…
TrAiDoS
I decided to write a webnov…
DjKniteX
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Thanks for the RSL
Hildegard
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1700 users

Bias In Reporting Of Interracial Crime

Forum Index > Closed
Post a Reply
1 2 Next All
Portlandian
Profile Joined July 2012
Belgium153 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-23 20:51:38
August 23 2012 20:01 GMT
#1
Does anyone feel there is a bias when it comes to reporting or publicizing heinous violent crimes committed across racial lines? For example here is a story which has been mostly unreported except in local media:

Elderly woman beaten with a brick outside her own Clarksdale, MS home

The beating of an elderly woman with a brick outside her home has rocked the city of Clarksdale, Mississippi. Now, there is a city-wide search for that beating suspect.

[image loading]

Stitches, bruises and gashes remain on Shirley Gordon’s face after she literally fought for her life while being beaten with a concrete brick.

“I don’t understand how some people can be so mean,” she said.

“He was beating the stew out of my head with that concrete brick wrapped in asphalt,” she said. “I asked him what have I done to you? And he kept beatin’.”

[image loading]

http://www.amren.com/news/2012/08/elderly-woman-beaten-with-a-brick-outside-her-own-clarksdale-ms-home/


A thread started to discuss this news article was locked due to: "This is not news, these kinds of thing happen all the time all over the world. There isn't much to discuss." Of course if there were truly nothing to discuss, forum software is designed to sort threads by inactivity so it would have simply slipped off the front page. It was locked to prevent discussion, not due to lack of discussion.

Imagine for a moment that the races were reversed and an elderly Black woman had been savagely beaten by a young White male. Would it then be newsworthy? Not only would it have been allowed discussion on teamliquid, it would likely be picked up by all the major international news networks.

When stories like this are not picked up by any major news networks, and also censored on user driven forums, it has the effect of giving people a skewed and distorted view of reality. Most people will be blissfully unaware of this crime, but have certainly heard of the Trayvon Martin case and the Duke Lacrosse rape hoax.

The eminent Thomas Sowell has written an article on media bias involving racially motivated mob attacks, which have become surprisingly common but are kept out of the national media:

Are Race Riots News?
by Thomas Sowell

[image loading]

When I first saw a book with the title, "White Girl Bleed A Lot" by Colin Flaherty, I instantly knew what it was about, even though I had not seen the book reviewed anywhere, and knew nothing about the author.

That phrase was spoken by a member of a mob of young blacks who attacked whites at random at a Fourth of July celebration in Milwaukee last year. What I was appalled to learn, in the course of my research, was that such race riots have occurred in other cities across the United States in recent years—and that the national mainstream media usually ignore these riots.

Where the violence is too widespread and too widely known locally to be ignored, both the local media and public officials often describe what happened as unspecified “young people” attacking unspecified victims for unspecified reasons. But videos of the attacks often reveal both the racial nature of these attacks and the racial hostility expressed by the attackers.

Ignoring racial violence only guarantees that it will get worse. The Chicago Tribune has publicly rationalized its filtering out of any racial identification of attackers and their victims, even though the media do not hesitate to mention race when decrying statistical disparities in arrest or imprisonment rates.

Reading Colin Flaherty’s book made painfully clear to me that the magnitude of this problem is even greater than I had discovered from my own research. He documents both the race riots and the media and political evasions in dozens of cities across America.

Flaherty’s previous writings have won him praise and awards, but this book has been met largely with silence or abuse. However much ignoring the ugly realities that his book reveals may serve the interests of the media or politicians, a cover-up is a huge disservice to everyone else—whether black, white or whatever.


http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2012/07/17/are_race_riots_news_114812.html


Here is a contrary article which defends biased reporting:

Black-on-White Crime and the Reasons for a Media Double-Standard

Yes, there’s a double-standard. And until there’s full equality and the long slow process of racial healing is completed, the double-standard has to remain.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bob-cesca/blackonwhite-crime-and-th_b_1521775.html


Is such biased reporting and censorship good for society? Certainly some people think so. What do you think?

User was temp banned for this post.
S:klogW
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria657 Posts
August 23 2012 20:02 GMT
#2
Why... I don't even...
E = 1.89 eV = 3.03 x 10^(-19) J
marttorn
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Norway5211 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-23 20:08:12
August 23 2012 20:07 GMT
#3
Black woman had been savagely beaten by a young White male. Would it then be newsworthy? Not only would it have been allowed discussion on teamliquid


Uh... No, I doubt it. There was nothing to discuss. What else is there to say but "this is awful, and shouldn't of happened"?

Also, bad threads can't just be kept open because they'll go to inactivity, mainly because most bad threads are surprisingly (or maybe not) active.
memes are a dish best served dank
meadbert
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States681 Posts
August 23 2012 20:07 GMT
#4
I feel so bad for the woman. I hope they find this guy before he does this or something worse to someone else.
nam nam
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden4672 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-23 20:12:33
August 23 2012 20:10 GMT
#5
Heh, nice workaround the lockdown. Not sure if it's going to work though. Also aren't you playing this the wrong way? Isn't it when there's a white victim the media usually pick it up (supposedly)?
Portlandian
Profile Joined July 2012
Belgium153 Posts
August 23 2012 20:12 GMT
#6
On August 24 2012 05:10 nam nam wrote:
Heh, nice workaround the lockdown. Not sure if it's going to work though.

I'm not trying to work around the lockdown, I want to discuss why there is such a double standard in what is widely reported and discussed.

If the article is inappropriate it can be edited out of the OP, but I think it is a valid topic and a good illustration of the double standard which exists.

Does anyone really think if the races were reversed it wouldn't have a hundreds of pages long thread on teamliquid, sanctioned by moderators?
MysteryTerran
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States178 Posts
August 23 2012 20:14 GMT
#7
If an mod doesnt want a thread to exist it wont exist. simple as that
Playing Protoss is like playing Guitar Hero on Very Easy
ddrddrddrddr
Profile Joined August 2010
1344 Posts
August 23 2012 20:15 GMT
#8
This was not reported as a racial crime iirc. It's an act of violence commited by a kid against an old woman. There's not much to debate unless you want to bring race into it. Trayvon Martin was pretty much reported as a crime with racial focus. I guess that may be the difference.
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18840 Posts
August 23 2012 20:16 GMT
#9
On August 24 2012 05:12 Portlandian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2012 05:10 nam nam wrote:
Heh, nice workaround the lockdown. Not sure if it's going to work though.

I'm not trying to work around the lockdown, I want to discuss why there is such a double standard in what is widely reported and discussed.

If the article is inappropriate it can be edited out of the OP, but I think it is a valid topic and a good illustration of the double standard which exists.

Does anyone really think if the races were reversed it wouldn't have a hundreds of pages long thread on teamliquid, sanctioned by moderators?

You are suggesting that a double standard exists. Prove it.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Portlandian
Profile Joined July 2012
Belgium153 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-23 20:17:56
August 23 2012 20:17 GMT
#10
On August 24 2012 05:14 MysteryTerran wrote:
If an mod doesnt want a thread to exist it wont exist. simple as that

Certainly. And websites are private property which are well within their rights to censor anything they please.

I just wanted to discuss whether other people notice there may be a bias in what is permitted or not, and whether they think such bias is good for society.

On August 24 2012 05:15 ddrddrddrddr wrote:
This was not reported as a racial crime iirc. It's an act of violence commited by a kid against an old woman. There's not much to debate unless you want to bring race into it. Trayvon Martin was pretty much reported as a crime with racial focus. I guess that may be the difference.

It's not a hate crime, but it is an interracial crime (when the victim and perpetrator are different races).
Mr Showtime
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1353 Posts
August 23 2012 20:18 GMT
#11
The story is a kid beating up an elderly woman. Shut the fuck up about racial claims. This type of moronic speculation is one of the major reasons that racism is still relevant in this day and age.
huehuehuehue
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Estonia455 Posts
August 23 2012 20:18 GMT
#12
Your post history seems suspect, are you on this site only to talk about race/obama?
ddrddrddrddr
Profile Joined August 2010
1344 Posts
August 23 2012 20:19 GMT
#13
On August 24 2012 05:17 Portlandian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2012 05:14 MysteryTerran wrote:
If an mod doesnt want a thread to exist it wont exist. simple as that

Certainly. And websites are private property which are well within their rights to censor anything they please.

I just wanted to discuss whether other people notice there may be a bias in what is permitted or not, and whether they think such bias is good for society.

Show nested quote +
On August 24 2012 05:15 ddrddrddrddr wrote:
This was not reported as a racial crime iirc. It's an act of violence commited by a kid against an old woman. There's not much to debate unless you want to bring race into it. Trayvon Martin was pretty much reported as a crime with racial focus. I guess that may be the difference.

It's not a hate crime, but it is an interracial crime (when the victim and perpetrator are different races).

Right. In one case the entire crime had questions of race surrounding it. This one does not have race as a main focus... yet.
Flamingo777
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1190 Posts
August 23 2012 20:20 GMT
#14
I generally think TL is pretty open to most news discussions, regardless of the topic. The bias is generally made within the OP if there is any, not the moderators' selective closings of certain threads. Generally the mods allow discussion of basically whatever unless there is nothing more to discuss, or if there is significant flaming...
bonifaceviii
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2890 Posts
August 23 2012 20:21 GMT
#15
Nah, if it were a white dude beating an elderly black woman it still would have been closed. Threads about heinous crimes tend not to generate much discussion than "oh, that's awful! I hope the perpetrator is punished!"
Stay a while and listen || http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=354018
Portlandian
Profile Joined July 2012
Belgium153 Posts
August 23 2012 20:21 GMT
#16
On August 24 2012 05:16 farvacola wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2012 05:12 Portlandian wrote:
On August 24 2012 05:10 nam nam wrote:
Heh, nice workaround the lockdown. Not sure if it's going to work though.

I'm not trying to work around the lockdown, I want to discuss why there is such a double standard in what is widely reported and discussed.

If the article is inappropriate it can be edited out of the OP, but I think it is a valid topic and a good illustration of the double standard which exists.

Does anyone really think if the races were reversed it wouldn't have a hundreds of pages long thread on teamliquid, sanctioned by moderators?

You are suggesting that a double standard exists. Prove it.

Are Race Riots News?

When I first saw a book with the title, "White Girl Bleed A Lot" by Colin Flaherty, I instantly knew what it was about, even though I had not seen the book reviewed anywhere, and knew nothing about the author.

That phrase was spoken by a member of a mob of young blacks who attacked whites at random at a Fourth of July celebration in Milwaukee last year. What I was appalled to learn, in the course of my research, was that such race riots have occurred in other cities across the United States in recent years—and that the national mainstream media usually ignore these riots.

Where the violence is too widespread and too widely known locally to be ignored, both the local media and public officials often describe what happened as unspecified “young people” attacking unspecified victims for unspecified reasons. But videos of the attacks often reveal both the racial nature of these attacks and the racial hostility expressed by the attackers.

Ignoring racial violence only guarantees that it will get worse. The Chicago Tribune has publicly rationalized its filtering out of any racial identification of attackers and their victims, even though the media do not hesitate to mention race when decrying statistical disparities in arrest or imprisonment rates.

Reading Colin Flaherty’s book made painfully clear to me that the magnitude of this problem is even greater than I had discovered from my own research. He documents both the race riots and the media and political evasions in dozens of cities across America.

Flaherty’s previous writings have won him praise and awards, but this book has been met largely with silence or abuse. However much ignoring the ugly realities that his book reveals may serve the interests of the media or politicians, a cover-up is a huge disservice to everyone else—whether black, white or whatever.


http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2012/07/17/are_race_riots_news_114812.html
Robinsa
Profile Joined May 2009
Japan1333 Posts
August 23 2012 20:23 GMT
#17
On August 24 2012 05:12 Portlandian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2012 05:10 nam nam wrote:
Heh, nice workaround the lockdown. Not sure if it's going to work though.

I'm not trying to work around the lockdown, I want to discuss why there is such a double standard in what is widely reported and discussed.

If the article is inappropriate it can be edited out of the OP, but I think it is a valid topic and a good illustration of the double standard which exists.

Does anyone really think if the races were reversed it wouldn't have a hundreds of pages long thread on teamliquid, sanctioned by moderators?

I think it would. Especially if it had racial motives. Then it would proboably be bigger than the other way around. Look at the shooting of Trayvon Martin as an example.
4649!!
Portlandian
Profile Joined July 2012
Belgium153 Posts
August 23 2012 20:27 GMT
#18
On August 24 2012 05:19 ddrddrddrddr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2012 05:17 Portlandian wrote:
On August 24 2012 05:14 MysteryTerran wrote:
If an mod doesnt want a thread to exist it wont exist. simple as that

Certainly. And websites are private property which are well within their rights to censor anything they please.

I just wanted to discuss whether other people notice there may be a bias in what is permitted or not, and whether they think such bias is good for society.

On August 24 2012 05:15 ddrddrddrddr wrote:
This was not reported as a racial crime iirc. It's an act of violence commited by a kid against an old woman. There's not much to debate unless you want to bring race into it. Trayvon Martin was pretty much reported as a crime with racial focus. I guess that may be the difference.

It's not a hate crime, but it is an interracial crime (when the victim and perpetrator are different races).

Right. In one case the entire crime had questions of race surrounding it. This one does not have race as a main focus... yet.

Here's an example of a clear hate crime which went relatively unnoticed and unreported in national news. Have you heard of it?

Again, imagine if the races were reversed the massive amount of attention that would be paid to it. There would be marches, candlelight vigils, constant around the clock reporting for weeks on national networks, etc.

‘You Get What You Deserve, White Boy’: 13-Year-Old Set on Fire in Horrific Racially Charged Attack

The family intends to move out of fear that the attackers went to their son’s school, which KMBC reports he will not return to. Melissa Coon, the boy’s mother, said her youngest son, 5, asked her, “Mom, am I going to get set on fire today?”

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/you-get-what-you-deserve-white-boy-13-year-old-set-on-fire-in-horrific-racially-charged-attack/
sekritzzz
Profile Joined December 2010
1515 Posts
August 23 2012 20:28 GMT
#19
On August 24 2012 05:18 huehuehuehue wrote:
Your post history seems suspect, are you on this site only to talk about race/obama?

pretty much this. His agenda is rather clear.
Grimmyman123
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada939 Posts
August 23 2012 20:35 GMT
#20
Agreed. All of the OP's posts are in subjects of racial or conflictual topics.

Not one of his posts are Starcraft or Gaming related in any way, shape, or form.

Basically he is a controversy troll.
Win. That's all that matters. Win. Nobody likes to lose.
1 2 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 1d 9h
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Nathanias 102
StarCraft: Brood War
Artosis 691
Sharp 217
Yoon 156
ZergMaN 146
ggaemo 55
NaDa 38
Noble 7
GoRush 5
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm98
League of Legends
C9.Mang0337
Trikslyr55
Counter-Strike
summit1g7806
minikerr43
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox358
Other Games
JimRising 422
Maynarde182
Mew2King78
RuFF_SC219
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick944
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 95
• Mapu18
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• XenOsky 4
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota22640
Other Games
• imaqtpie2809
Upcoming Events
WardiTV Invitational
1d 9h
Gerald vs YoungYakov
Spirit vs MaNa
SHIN vs Percival
Creator vs Scarlett
Replay Cast
2 days
WardiTV Invitational
2 days
ByuN vs Solar
Clem vs Classic
Cure vs herO
Reynor vs MaxPax
Replay Cast
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
Krystianer vs TBD
TriGGeR vs SKillous
Percival vs TBD
ByuN vs Nicoract
Replay Cast
6 days
Wardi Open
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

YSL S2
WardiTV 2025
META Madness #9

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
BSL Season 21
Slon Tour Season 2
CSL Season 19: Qualifier 2
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22

Upcoming

CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Big Gabe Cup #3
OSC Championship Season 13
Nations Cup 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.