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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27320 Posts
July 07 2026 09:07 GMT
#63421
On July 07 2026 15:27 evilfatsh1t wrote:
LOOOOL mtcn finally banned.

looked up the posts that got him there and holy moly that was dumb. like he wasnt even trying to hide how clueless he was about the game anymore.

what i dont get is why he went to so much effort to act like he knew what he was talking about. he wasnt fooling anyone and he quite obviously didnt even play the game. baffling

Baffling just about sums it up.

What were they even trying to accomplish? In a venue full of BW noobs maybe they’d get an ego boost from people buying their ‘insights’, but here?

I’ve seen plenty of bad players theorycrafting, hell I’ve done plenty myself! But I don’t think I’ve seen such dedication from a seeming non-player while everyone is saying they’re wrong.

FFE is bad and all the Protoss Hall of Famers are idiots, also rushing a Queen to infest the Terran’s second CC is totally viable. Lmao
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27320 Posts
July 07 2026 12:10 GMT
#63422
Not the right place but I couldn’t find the relevant general website feedback thread, maybe that’s on me.

Can we just close the Stormgate thread at this point? It’s basically redundant given the state of the game, and increasingly being used to settle petty vendettas. Plus it might drive a bit more activity into some of the other RTS threads for the posting that isn’t terrible
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10554 Posts
July 07 2026 15:55 GMT
#63423
On July 07 2026 15:55 NoS-Craig wrote:
Surprised he lasted this long to be honest.

BR was trying to be as nice and lenient as possible, but even he can run out of patience at some point.

Good riddance.
Writer#1 KT and FlaSh Fanboy || Woo Jung Ho Never Forget || Teamliquid Political Decision Desk
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Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10361 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-07-07 16:51:58
July 07 2026 16:38 GMT
#63424
*Picture of a very satisfied-looking seal here*
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51295 Posts
July 07 2026 16:49 GMT
#63425
Come on man you know you can't do that.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France8180 Posts
July 09 2026 06:47 GMT
#63426
On July 07 2026 15:27 evilfatsh1t wrote:
LOOOOL mtcn finally banned.

looked up the posts that got him there and holy moly that was dumb. like he wasnt even trying to hide how clueless he was about the game anymore.

what i dont get is why he went to so much effort to act like he knew what he was talking about. he wasnt fooling anyone and he quite obviously didnt even play the game. baffling

He was unbelievably annoying. Never met anyone with such a talent for turning every discussion into a pointless flame war.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
Kraekkling
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
735 Posts
July 09 2026 13:44 GMT
#63427
I'm still not sure whether mtcn wasn't an elaborate troll.

Every thread that he posted in would've been better if he didn't.

The posts that finally got him banned don't even make the top 20 of the dumbest and most obnoxious things he wrote on TL.


very very obviously a good riddance
(*^^)(^*)
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10554 Posts
July 09 2026 16:31 GMT
#63428
On July 09 2026 22:44 Kraekkling wrote:
I'm still not sure whether mtcn wasn't an elaborate troll.

Every thread that he posted in would've been better if he didn't.

The posts that finally got him banned don't even make the top 20 of the dumbest and most obnoxious things he wrote on TL.


very very obviously a good riddance

I'm inclined to say that he was just a massive elaborate troll. But the fact that he posted in other forums and didn't seem like the troll he was here makes me think that he was actually just like that. Idk, 50/50 to me.
Writer#1 KT and FlaSh Fanboy || Woo Jung Ho Never Forget || Teamliquid Political Decision Desk
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Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10361 Posts
July 09 2026 18:02 GMT
#63429
On July 10 2026 01:31 FlaShFTW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2026 22:44 Kraekkling wrote:
I'm still not sure whether mtcn wasn't an elaborate troll.

Every thread that he posted in would've been better if he didn't.

The posts that finally got him banned don't even make the top 20 of the dumbest and most obnoxious things he wrote on TL.


very very obviously a good riddance

I'm inclined to say that he was just a massive elaborate troll. But the fact that he posted in other forums and didn't seem like the troll he was here makes me think that he was actually just like that. Idk, 50/50 to me.

He was just as insufferable elsewhere, it's just how he is.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France8180 Posts
July 09 2026 19:31 GMT
#63430
On July 09 2026 22:44 Kraekkling wrote:
I'm still not sure whether mtcn wasn't an elaborate troll.

Every thread that he posted in would've been better if he didn't.

The posts that finally got him banned don't even make the top 20 of the dumbest and most obnoxious things he wrote on TL.


very very obviously a good riddance

My first discussion with him he died on the hill that the best meta for ZvT was rushing Queen to rush infest CC. He went on saying the pros didn’t do it because they were stuck in their habits.

Good times. If he was a troll, honestly he was kind of genius. If he was not then… well.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51295 Posts
July 10 2026 08:05 GMT
#63431
I don't think he was a troll, he had genuine conviction that he had it right because in his mind starcraft is a purely strategic game because all the top pros have perfect execution all the time and the concept of unit control/micro just doesn't exist.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France8180 Posts
July 10 2026 21:06 GMT
#63432
On July 10 2026 17:05 BLinD-RawR wrote:
I don't think he was a troll, he had genuine conviction that he had it right because in his mind starcraft is a purely strategic game because all the top pros have perfect execution all the time and the concept of unit control/micro just doesn't exist.

But i mean, even then he would time and time and time again advocate for some weird unlikely strategies, and when confronted with the « there must be a reason no one ever does that » would say that the pros just didn’t have the imagination.

Very weird. I don’t have particular animosity towards the guy but I’m happy he’s gone, he was absolutely destroying the discussions he could enter.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10361 Posts
July 10 2026 21:46 GMT
#63433
On July 10 2026 04:31 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2026 22:44 Kraekkling wrote:
I'm still not sure whether mtcn wasn't an elaborate troll.

Every thread that he posted in would've been better if he didn't.

The posts that finally got him banned don't even make the top 20 of the dumbest and most obnoxious things he wrote on TL.


very very obviously a good riddance

My first discussion with him he died on the hill that the best meta for ZvT was rushing Queen to rush infest CC. He went on saying the pros didn’t do it because they were stuck in their habits.

Good times. If he was a troll, honestly he was kind of genius. If he was not then… well.

One of my favorites was when he was making the claim that Protoss doesn't need upgrades in PvZ and when I asked him to explain why, he sourced a PvT game.

+ Show Spoiler [Discussion] +
On March 19 2026 12:05 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2026 08:08 mtcn77 wrote:
On March 19 2026 02:55 Jealous wrote:
On March 18 2026 08:46 mtcn77 wrote:
On March 17 2026 14:39 Jealous wrote:
On March 17 2026 12:02 mtcn77 wrote:
On March 12 2026 13:36 psicho wrote:
are armour or shield upgrades worthwhile as a Protoss when VS Terran 2-1 seige tanks are 70+10, so is it just a waste or is there still value in getting these upgrades

The mechanics of pvt vs pvz are totally different. Due to recent theory setbacks, protoss players cripple their economy with crap FE builds however as a whole, the order of economic advantage is p>z>t when it comes to vespene gas expansions. Terrans need the armory since the flash revolution is making the most of what little economy terrans have a.k.a siege tanks. Protoss is not like that. There was a Best game somewhere that proved you are almost not warranted to upgrade vs zerg. You just need to rush your economy. Terrans are the polar opposite. You try keeping your tanks alive.

Would love to see this PvZ from Best where upgrades were not warranted.

Good news and bad news. It was Mini vs Ssak game most likely. He is 1-1 at 21 minute mark. I had it marked up in my mind as no upgrade at 14 minute mark game. Let me rewatch the final game and get back to you.

Hold on. So, if I am understanding correctly, your evidence for why upgrades are "almost not warranted" in PvZ... is a PvT between Mini and Ssak?

Well, I could only remember from Ssak's name. Normally I thought it was a Best game and last asl he mostly played pvz. I never claimed I had good memory.

I'm still confused as to how anything between Mini, Best, and Ssak could have any bearing on PvZ upgrades, but maybe it is a mutual language barrier. Can you explain one more time why upgrades are not warranted in PvZ?


Link
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Spydermine0240
Profile Blog Joined June 2023
16 Posts
July 10 2026 21:53 GMT
#63434
Can I be banned please

User was banned for this post.
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8921 Posts
July 11 2026 06:13 GMT
#63435
On July 11 2026 06:46 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2026 04:31 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On July 09 2026 22:44 Kraekkling wrote:
I'm still not sure whether mtcn wasn't an elaborate troll.

Every thread that he posted in would've been better if he didn't.

The posts that finally got him banned don't even make the top 20 of the dumbest and most obnoxious things he wrote on TL.


very very obviously a good riddance

My first discussion with him he died on the hill that the best meta for ZvT was rushing Queen to rush infest CC. He went on saying the pros didn’t do it because they were stuck in their habits.

Good times. If he was a troll, honestly he was kind of genius. If he was not then… well.

One of my favorites was when he was making the claim that Protoss doesn't need upgrades in PvZ and when I asked him to explain why, he sourced a PvT game.

+ Show Spoiler [Discussion] +
On March 19 2026 12:05 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2026 08:08 mtcn77 wrote:
On March 19 2026 02:55 Jealous wrote:
On March 18 2026 08:46 mtcn77 wrote:
On March 17 2026 14:39 Jealous wrote:
On March 17 2026 12:02 mtcn77 wrote:
On March 12 2026 13:36 psicho wrote:
are armour or shield upgrades worthwhile as a Protoss when VS Terran 2-1 seige tanks are 70+10, so is it just a waste or is there still value in getting these upgrades

The mechanics of pvt vs pvz are totally different. Due to recent theory setbacks, protoss players cripple their economy with crap FE builds however as a whole, the order of economic advantage is p>z>t when it comes to vespene gas expansions. Terrans need the armory since the flash revolution is making the most of what little economy terrans have a.k.a siege tanks. Protoss is not like that. There was a Best game somewhere that proved you are almost not warranted to upgrade vs zerg. You just need to rush your economy. Terrans are the polar opposite. You try keeping your tanks alive.

Would love to see this PvZ from Best where upgrades were not warranted.

Good news and bad news. It was Mini vs Ssak game most likely. He is 1-1 at 21 minute mark. I had it marked up in my mind as no upgrade at 14 minute mark game. Let me rewatch the final game and get back to you.
https://youtu.be/watch?v=mNZm94_cXk8&pp=ygUQbWluaSBzc2FrIGFzbCAyMA==

Hold on. So, if I am understanding correctly, your evidence for why upgrades are "almost not warranted" in PvZ... is a PvT between Mini and Ssak?

Well, I could only remember from Ssak's name. Normally I thought it was a Best game and last asl he mostly played pvz. I never claimed I had good memory.

I'm still confused as to how anything between Mini, Best, and Ssak could have any bearing on PvZ upgrades, but maybe it is a mutual language barrier. Can you explain one more time why upgrades are not warranted in PvZ?


Link

what if mtcn was actually an self learning ai program used on tl to see how well it could fool us. it learnt starcraft only through theory and flawed data and so gave us those chatgpt like responses; looks like theres something of substance there but really its a load of crap
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51690 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-07-16 20:47:09
July 16 2026 20:46 GMT
#63436
the fact that mtcn and SCRVN lasted that long shows how far the website has fallen moderation wise (if it even exists at all)
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Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10361 Posts
July 16 2026 21:59 GMT
#63437
On July 17 2026 05:46 GTR wrote:
the fact that mtcn and SCRVN lasted that long shows how far the website has fallen moderation wise (if it even exists at all)

As an outside observer, I viewed the lenient treatment as just an over-correction in light of a changing environment. As activity drops and the overall community shrinks, being overly ban-happy could be detrimental. Also, these guys haven't been flagrantly breaking rules which are death sentences, like racism and other such crap. They are just simultaneously arrogant and stupid, which isn't worthy of capital punishment but definitely is a persistent irritant and justifies a ban when it's so consistent. I think it's more that moderation was just too patient in the face of months/years of unwavering, abrasive idiocy, rather than a lack of moderator presence.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Mrs Crabbleman
Profile Joined April 2026
31 Posts
August 04 2026 18:15 GMT
#63438
Is it possible to get my main account unbanned?

RogerChillingworth
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51295 Posts
August 11 2026 04:08 GMT
#63439
are you saying this account overstayed its welcome by a good 4 months?
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17791 Posts
August 12 2026 12:18 GMT
#63440
On April 26 2026 22:49 WombaT wrote:
Lad is really lacking in self-esteem isn’t he?

What is self esteem?
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
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