I think it's pretty good. Purge was very clear about wanting to teach concepts. During a game that can be hard to take in, as there's a million things going on. So they sit down and watch the replay the day after. Seems like a very good approach to me.

ahswtini

Northern Ireland22208 Posts

January 19 2017 10:45 GMT

#82

i figured the same, just being bombarded with "do this, do that" while playing a game makes it very hard to understand why ur doing it

cecek

Czech Republic18921 Posts

January 19 2017 11:25 GMT

#83

I missed this live. I suppose Day 9 will uplaod the VODs to his youtube channel? Did he talk about VODs on the stream at all? Twitch VODs on his twitch channel are only available to his subs, so I can't watch there.

Belisarius

Australia6233 Posts

January 19 2017 11:33 GMT

#84

I'd guess he'll keep them paywalled for a while, but perhaps that's not how he operates.

I would like to watch the full thing also but it's not worth actual money.

Torte de Lini

Germany38463 Posts

January 19 2017 11:41 GMT

#85

Only caught a bit of it! It was cool to get a shoutout, I think the way they segmented the show was good and traditional:

- Concept taught
- Application
- Review

yosar

Australia11 Posts

January 19 2017 12:33 GMT

#86

On January 19 2017 20:33 Belisarius wrote:
I'd guess he'll keep them paywalled for a while, but perhaps that's not how he operates.

I would like to watch the full thing also but it's not worth actual money.

He usually uploads all his content to youtube within a couple of days.

Grettin

42381 Posts

January 19 2017 13:05 GMT

#87

The twitch subs will most likely stay behind pay wall, but the Youtube VoDs will be available for free.

Either here or Purge's youtube.

https://www.youtube.com/user/day9tv/videos

smilingjuggernaut

74 Posts

January 19 2017 16:48 GMT

#88

Pretty funny experiment. When I've looked for inspiration trying to learn a new game, I'll always just gone and watched whoever's best at the game and asked myself why they do what they do, what they could be doing better etcetc so seeing this kind of approach to learning is very alien to me and fun :D

Jutranjo

Slovenia140 Posts

January 19 2017 17:29 GMT

#89

Yeah the VODs go up on Youtube in a day or two usually. Watching the first and last bit with both of them was pretty interesting, watching the actual games is a bit meh. You get the highlights of it at the end anyway.

Can't wait for next week!

Nevuk

United States16280 Posts

January 19 2017 19:09 GMT

#90

RuiBarbO

United States1340 Posts

January 19 2017 21:55 GMT

#91

Well that was fun. Is the post-game coaching session going to be available too?

Nevuk

United States16280 Posts

January 19 2017 21:58 GMT

#92

On January 20 2017 06:55 RuiBarbO wrote:
Well that was fun. Is the post-game coaching session going to be available too?

I'm sure it will be on youtube later. For now the VOD is available on twitch here: https://www.twitch.tv/purgegamers/v/115762642

Belisarius

Australia6233 Posts

January 19 2017 22:24 GMT

#93

Interesting that purge isn't a fan of dual offlanes.

I've always felt duos were way more reliable than a trilane composed of random 3ks.

ChunderBoy

3242 Posts

January 19 2017 22:28 GMT

#94

On January 20 2017 07:24 Belisarius wrote:
Interesting that purge isn't a fan of dual offlanes.

I've always felt duos were way more reliable than a trilane composed of random 3ks.

i mean dota is mostly 1-1-2 with pos 4 doing w.e needs to be done
can he roam a lot he can duo lane he can do w.e he wants

Belisarius

Australia6233 Posts

January 19 2017 22:31 GMT

#95

Let's be serious, mostly he plays jungle legion.

But yes, fair enough.

Nevuk

United States16280 Posts

January 19 2017 22:40 GMT

#96

Even at mid 3k dual offlanes tend to be rare. Like 2-3 years ago it was true that no one at that level could trilane, but that changed pretty fast.

A strong dual offlane (say undying + tusk) can still crush a 3k trilane 90% of the time, but generally people aren't picking to synergize with their own team in that manner unless they duo queued (it's far more common to see people sort of try to counterpick the enemy team at best, or most commonly just pick whatever they feel like playing anyways).

My experience in ranked ~4k is like ... 40% 1-1-2 + jungle, 30% 1-1-3, 15% 1-1-2+ 1 roamer, 5% 2-1-2.

Yurie

11964 Posts

January 19 2017 22:47 GMT

#97

Honestly feel 2-1-2 is easier to get people synced up with even if has huge potentials to fail by one or two bad plays. In three-lanes with random members it is often unclear to the supports who has zoning, who has pulling and if one should just perma roam since the zoning is doing well. After 3-4 games together that would work well or the heroes are crystal clear for it but it is often diffuse in the 4-5k range.

Watched the intro video and the post analysis. Really feel like purge needs to step up his post-game stuff. He did have a few good examples but there was no thread through what he was doing. First person perspective or even recording the actual Day9 stream would likely be better than the current free cam with both fogs in most cases. Maybe try actually loading the replay and showing it so different viewpoints and places in the game can be shown. Not sure but wasn't coherent as the intro was.

Murlox

France1699 Posts

January 20 2017 17:12 GMT

#98

Yeah that was good ^^

Glad to be wrong, I mean, it went much better than I expected.

As for the dual offlane thing, I guess it really depends on your heroes / bracket. Most of the times though, in 3.5k, I feel that a dual offlane can almost outright win you the game. Because, most of the time, people don't trilane, but instead probably run a 4th core in the jungle - it's just what you do in 3.5k, you don't pick a second support, you pick a 4th core and go to the jungle...

So you can basically shit on their carry, shit on their jungler, rotate mid, instil massive doubt in their whole team, make them flame each other ("we need wards" "i'm solo support" "stop feeding" "i can't farm" "my carry has nothing", all that good stuff).

On the other hand, I'd rather get solo XP on a nyx offlaner, for sure.

So yeah, it does depend on the picks / situations, imo

Buckyman

1364 Posts

January 20 2017 18:09 GMT

#99

My read on the lower-pub meta is that it's a weak rock-paper-scissors; defensive trilanes beat dual lanes, dual lanes beat junglers and junglers have an edge against trilanes. But trilanes are the least common.

Pontual

Brazil3038 Posts

January 20 2017 18:11 GMT

#100

On January 21 2017 03:09 Buckyman wrote:
My read on the lower-pub meta is that it's a weak rock-paper-scissors; defensive trilanes beat dual lanes, dual lanes beat junglers and junglers have an edge against trilanes. But trilanes are the least common.

and junglers are wildly common lmao

it's a draw 90% of the time then