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"Day[9] Learns DotA" with Purge - Page 9

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snow2.0
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany2073 Posts
May 18 2017 08:00 GMT
#161
On April 20 2017 03:33 Danzo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2017 02:17 Murlox wrote:
My take on that :

Day9 is getting old(er), he's running a company, a show. He's (passed?) not trying very hard, he's here to have fun and try to understand / mess around the Dota2 philosophy. More than gaining MMR.

I mean he says it himself : "I couldn't care less about MMR" (I think it was during the game where Purge forgot to actually be a coach and went on to play with Day9 instead). And I believe those words are genuine, he doesn't look to be trying hard to me.

Just have a good time, and "improve". Not climbing the thing as fast as possible.


Except he's made a goal last week to get 3k pretty soon.

that's not a real goal. He's almost 3k with 58% winrate. That's just "play a few more games".
A goal for improvement needs to be something specific to focus on.
Pontual
Profile Joined October 2016
Brazil3038 Posts
May 18 2017 10:24 GMT
#162
On May 18 2017 17:00 snow2.0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2017 03:33 Danzo wrote:
On April 20 2017 02:17 Murlox wrote:
My take on that :

Day9 is getting old(er), he's running a company, a show. He's (passed?) not trying very hard, he's here to have fun and try to understand / mess around the Dota2 philosophy. More than gaining MMR.

I mean he says it himself : "I couldn't care less about MMR" (I think it was during the game where Purge forgot to actually be a coach and went on to play with Day9 instead). And I believe those words are genuine, he doesn't look to be trying hard to me.

Just have a good time, and "improve". Not climbing the thing as fast as possible.


Except he's made a goal last week to get 3k pretty soon.

that's not a real goal. He's almost 3k with 58% winrate. That's just "play a few more games".
A goal for improvement needs to be something specific to focus on.

What? He's already 3k. I saw it on stream, he had 3042 mmr when he showed it.
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Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
May 24 2017 21:39 GMT
#163
Day[9] really needs to hide his username and like the name of the people he matches against, especially when he's trying to play heroes like Bounty Hunter.
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Wineandbread
Profile Joined September 2009
United States2065 Posts
July 12 2017 20:39 GMT
#164
Blitz is coaching day9 for mid right now

It's been really insightful so far actually, even higher level players will probably get something out of this mid lesson if anyone is interested. (I don't think day9 is going to understand the concepts very well lol)
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
July 16 2017 20:09 GMT
#165
On July 13 2017 05:39 Wineandbread wrote:
Blitz is coaching day9 for mid right now

It's been really insightful so far actually, even higher level players will probably get something out of this mid lesson if anyone is interested. (I don't think day9 is going to understand the concepts very well lol)

RuiBarbO
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
United States1340 Posts
July 22 2017 03:04 GMT
#166
Can't wait to see Sean putting his Purge-certified Dota knowledge to work at TI7!
Can someone please explain/how water falls with no rain?
YourGoodFriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2197 Posts
July 25 2017 14:40 GMT
#167
Honestly watching this series I have learned a ton about dota, I really liked the Blitz episode
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HKTPZ
Profile Joined May 2017
105 Posts
July 26 2017 21:27 GMT
#168
Just watched some of it live. Man I feel sorry for Sean for having such a clueless coach. He should be going over pro or at least high mmr replays with someone who actually has useful insight into how dota works - playing with and against super clueless people while being coached by someone so ignorant seems like a recipe for disaster.
ahw
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada1099 Posts
July 27 2017 14:40 GMT
#169
On July 27 2017 06:27 HKTPZ wrote:
Just watched some of it live. Man I feel sorry for Sean for having such a clueless coach. He should be going over pro or at least high mmr replays with someone who actually has useful insight into how dota works - playing with and against super clueless people while being coached by someone so ignorant seems like a recipe for disaster.


Are you referring to purge or blitz?

Neither are top tier pros by any stretch of the imagination, but blitz is high 7k and purge is somewhere around 6k afaik. More than enough knowledge to coach a low 3k player like day9.

Murlox
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France1699 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-01 05:44:21
August 01 2017 05:42 GMT
#170
Purge did a tremendous job segmenting and bringing content to all the segments. He is a good listener, he speaks well. Very structured. He proved to be a very good teacher.

Just imagine this series with... I don't know, RTZ, EE, Sumail, Dendi... ? I mean, they sure are very knowledgable, but what matters is how able/willing you are to transfer that knowledge.

That said, I wouldn't mind any of these 4 as "special guests", like Blitz did.
Resistance ain't futile
Kyir
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1047 Posts
August 02 2017 12:49 GMT
#171
Yeah, I think any problems with Day9's advancement is mostly linked to the fact that he really only plays one or two days a week. I always feel like garbage when I do that.
sCCrooked
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Korea (South)1306 Posts
August 02 2017 15:35 GMT
#172
On August 02 2017 21:49 Kyir wrote:
Yeah, I think any problems with Day9's advancement is mostly linked to the fact that he really only plays one or two days a week. I always feel like garbage when I do that.


I agree. I think he doesn't play enough and that's part of why he's stagnating just barely into 3k. He can't really go up at all anymore doing only 1-3 games a week. He's stuck in the 50% win-loss cycle unless he's stomping some normal mode but those matches are largely jokes. His ranked win % has sort of plateaued for the moment. He needs to do like 10 games a day every day no breaks stream for maybe a year or so before a lot of this advanced stuff will sink in.

A lot of his coaches are giving him amazing advice but its advice I'd be giving to a 5k to move up to 6k. Sean needs a much more watered-down basic version of these mechanics because he still has glaring errors in those areas.
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