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iv~nk~j
Profile Joined August 2012
1140 Posts
September 23 2014 09:11 GMT
#421
On September 23 2014 17:44 Alpino wrote:
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On September 23 2014 17:34 iv~nk~j wrote:
i don't want BS to be viable, he is already obnoxious and annoying even if he isn't very good

some heroes should just stay irrelevant, like death prophet

i don't think anyone sane ever went "man, death prophet is such a cool and exciting hero, i wish she was picked more in pro games"



What's wrong with DP, she may need some toning down but it's a very enjoyable, albeit simple hero.

i just really despise both playing her and playing against her, atleast tinker is fun to play yourself while being annoying to play against

i remember watching mason's stream and he said about DP "i think you have to be legitimately autistic to enjoy playing this hero"

that's of course quite rude and exaggerated way to say it but i agree with the overal sentiment
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
September 23 2014 09:37 GMT
#422
On September 23 2014 11:42 JD. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2014 11:06 synapse wrote:
ahhh i get it, rekindling soul = new SF model finally


SF model probably included, but from the "rekindling" I'd say it's more a reference to SF Arcana (which is fire themed).

That's really uninspired to produce a fire model as SF is based on firelord (only had a few niche strats with him in Orc vs Orc mu iirc, having forged spirits with eidolons reproduction mechanic):
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govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
September 23 2014 09:38 GMT
#423
Undying needs a ministun on the initial soul rip target i think, maybe combined with more str gain he could be a good 4.
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evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8778 Posts
September 23 2014 09:39 GMT
#424
On September 23 2014 18:37 nojok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2014 11:42 JD. wrote:
On September 23 2014 11:06 synapse wrote:
ahhh i get it, rekindling soul = new SF model finally


SF model probably included, but from the "rekindling" I'd say it's more a reference to SF Arcana (which is fire themed).

That's really uninspired to produce a fire model as SF is based on firelord (only had a few niche strats with him in Orc vs Orc mu iirc, having forged spirits with eidolons reproduction mechanic):
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god i miss the old sf model
everything from the way it walks to its attack and raze animations was awesome. even the projectile looked like it would actually hurt, instead of this ugly red ball he chucks now
Kishin2
Profile Joined May 2011
United States7534 Posts
September 23 2014 10:00 GMT
#425
Expecting TB to be added in -cm soon since Arteezy is practicing him.
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
September 23 2014 10:27 GMT
#426
On September 23 2014 18:38 govie wrote:
Undying needs a ministun on the initial soul rip target i think, maybe combined with more str gain he could be a good 4.

I feel like his major problem is that with passive gold and fast T1s down, tombstone has a much smaller timing window than before.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8778 Posts
September 23 2014 10:33 GMT
#427
his major problem is there arent enough tri vs tri anymore. by the time fights start happening one side either has a deathball or undyings tombstone is too weak and gets brought down in like 1 second
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-23 10:43:17
September 23 2014 10:38 GMT
#428
Make his MS to 1000 for 0.2 seconds after using soulrip/str sap, bam, top7 hardlaner in game and instantly became a viable pick.
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
September 23 2014 12:07 GMT
#429
On September 23 2014 19:00 Kishin2 wrote:
Expecting TB to be added in -cm soon since Arteezy is practicing him.

I'd be really glad if we get some new heroes in CM.

Enabled in WC3 DotA but not Dota 2 are LC, Phoenix, TB, and Techies. If PL is coming back, they'll hopefully enable at least LC.
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
ChunderBoy
Profile Joined August 2011
3242 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-23 12:32:27
September 23 2014 12:20 GMT
#430
maybe give undying back his old ulti?!
called decay if anyone remembers
that hero is so bad and totally irrelevant after 5min and has the worst scepter upg by far

also about tinker....
in wc3 dota tinker is much weaker bcoz
1) march doesnt hit dragons/harpies (harpies maybe?!)
2) neutral creeps run away in opposite direction from march damage instead of into you.
3) eblade has a projectile so you cant dagon nuke anyone till the eblade projectile hits.
4) you cant bottle up after tping and still get bottle charges.
5) some places are still impossible to blink to bcoz "haven't explored area" even tho they shudve changed that in an early 6.7x patch

i would also like to see spectres old dispersion back
16% chance to not take dmg and reflect all of it for full damage in an area with a mini-stun

PL's biggest nerf was how lanes worked after 6.79
i would still like to see him get a BAT buff or MS buff

i want old couriers back with divine shield but drop items if they die.

antimage to have something added to spell shield like reducing cc time by 10/15/20/25 or 10/20/30/40 % bcoz getting forced to go bkb on that hero is dumb
lifesteal from satanic to override mana break like it did in wc3

wisp getting back tether stun or atleast a mini stun

most interesting changes wud be item changes tho
just like how diffu+vit booster = manta into yasha+orb = manta changed the whole meta of the game previously
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Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34498 Posts
September 23 2014 12:55 GMT
#431
i would also like to see spectres old dispersion back
16% chance to not take dmg and reflect all of it for full damage in an area with a mini-stun

Why on earth would you ever want that back D:

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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
September 23 2014 13:18 GMT
#432
I could care less who is nerfed, I just want to know who is in CM now and who is buffed. Bring me the CK and Sven buffs.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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feedwhenever
Profile Joined September 2014
Pitcairn1 Post
September 23 2014 13:34 GMT
#433
TL;DR some of comments

Void - make the all other unit except Void inside the chronosphere moves slower, attack slower, cast slower ( items unaffected, that you can hex him utilizing a scythe of vyse, cyclone him, etc.). Leap not to be invulnerable ( if it's still invulnerable, and can't dodge some projectiles.) Backtrack for spells reduced by 1/4 the original value.

"Bitch, I might be" -Albert Einstein
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
September 23 2014 13:51 GMT
#434
On September 23 2014 22:34 feedwhenever wrote:
TL;DR some of comments

Void - make the all other unit except Void inside the chronosphere moves slower, attack slower, cast slower ( items unaffected, that you can hex him utilizing a scythe of vyse, cyclone him, etc.). Leap not to be invulnerable ( if it's still invulnerable, and can't dodge some projectiles.) Backtrack for spells reduced by 1/4 the original value.


He's not invincible during Time Walk. He's supposed to be, but he's not.
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bakesale
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States187 Posts
September 23 2014 13:54 GMT
#435
Valve is now teasing the next patch: http://www.dota2.com/rekindlingsoul/
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
September 23 2014 13:56 GMT
#436
On September 23 2014 22:54 bakesale wrote:
Valve is now teasing the next patch: http://www.dota2.com/rekindlingsoul/

Someone's late to the party.
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Spyisaspy
Profile Joined August 2013
United States183 Posts
September 23 2014 14:08 GMT
#437
LORD GABEN PLEASE TELL GIVE US THE PATCH NOTES TODAY
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8778 Posts
September 23 2014 14:25 GMT
#438
On September 23 2014 22:34 feedwhenever wrote:
TL;DR some of comments

Void - make the all other unit except Void inside the chronosphere moves slower, attack slower, cast slower ( items unaffected, that you can hex him utilizing a scythe of vyse, cyclone him, etc.). Leap not to be invulnerable ( if it's still invulnerable, and can't dodge some projectiles.) Backtrack for spells reduced by 1/4 the original value.


this just makes him a fking potato hero
pretty much all your chronosphere does is upheaval without the channeling
govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
September 23 2014 14:46 GMT
#439
On September 23 2014 23:08 Spyisaspy wrote:
LORD GABEN PLEASE TELL GIVE US THE PATCH NOTES TODAY


We need 5 more announcements of announcements before thats ever gonna happen!
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Bisu-Fan
Profile Joined January 2010
Russian Federation3336 Posts
September 23 2014 14:56 GMT
#440
On September 23 2014 23:25 evilfatsh1t wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2014 22:34 feedwhenever wrote:
TL;DR some of comments

Void - make the all other unit except Void inside the chronosphere moves slower, attack slower, cast slower ( items unaffected, that you can hex him utilizing a scythe of vyse, cyclone him, etc.). Leap not to be invulnerable ( if it's still invulnerable, and can't dodge some projectiles.) Backtrack for spells reduced by 1/4 the original value.


this just makes him a fking potato hero
pretty much all your chronosphere does is upheaval without the channeling

Well I think an unchanneled upheaval is now balanced than an unchanneled black hole.

Can we get pudge's old wc3 hook mechanism back?

Also for rosh, how bout we have 2 pits and he respawns randomly in one of them hahaha

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