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tehh4ck3r
Profile Joined August 2013
Magrathea7057 Posts
September 23 2014 18:29 GMT
#461
On September 24 2014 03:23 Koerage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2014 03:20 tehh4ck3r wrote:
On September 24 2014 02:24 Fleetfeet wrote:
On September 24 2014 01:17 Plansix wrote:
There are problems with that thing(like the shop and the minimap being busted), but it could likely be something like that. The rosh in the promo makes me think its likely coming. I'm happy about it if it comes, because fights over rosh are one part of the game that I miss in the current meta.


The busted things can easily be explained by debug/test shit. If this had to be loaded as a new map entirely, it's very possible that it was A) busted as shit and B) didn't have a minimap, so rendering bugs and stuff aren't enough to suggest it was faked... especially considering I doubt someone would go through the trouble of faking that screenshot and just not bother with the minimap or the rest of the map.


the screenshot and map are very real, they shipped with the big workshop tools update a while back.

honestly don't know why people keep saying it's fake


because its not been announced in any way (and i dont think alot of people called for it either?) and its been there for 10 years, as the post above you said


it's literally in the game files if you download the workshop tools
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FHDH
Profile Joined July 2014
United States7023 Posts
September 23 2014 18:32 GMT
#462
On September 24 2014 03:29 tehh4ck3r wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2014 03:23 Koerage wrote:
On September 24 2014 03:20 tehh4ck3r wrote:
On September 24 2014 02:24 Fleetfeet wrote:
On September 24 2014 01:17 Plansix wrote:
There are problems with that thing(like the shop and the minimap being busted), but it could likely be something like that. The rosh in the promo makes me think its likely coming. I'm happy about it if it comes, because fights over rosh are one part of the game that I miss in the current meta.


The busted things can easily be explained by debug/test shit. If this had to be loaded as a new map entirely, it's very possible that it was A) busted as shit and B) didn't have a minimap, so rendering bugs and stuff aren't enough to suggest it was faked... especially considering I doubt someone would go through the trouble of faking that screenshot and just not bother with the minimap or the rest of the map.


the screenshot and map are very real, they shipped with the big workshop tools update a while back.

honestly don't know why people keep saying it's fake


because its not been announced in any way (and i dont think alot of people called for it either?) and its been there for 10 years, as the post above you said


it's literally in the game files if you download the workshop tools

I think this has been acknowledged repeatedly. It's not that it's a "fake" just not necessarily something that's happening.

Why does this need to happen, anyway? Aren't Dire/Radiant winrates fairly balanced in pro play right now, you just need to draft appropriately for your side? Or is that itself considered problematic?
После драки кулаками не машут (Don't shake your fist when the fight is over)
Nymzee
Profile Joined June 2013
3929 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-23 18:39:59
September 23 2014 18:33 GMT
#463
tinker nerf:

rearm has a 5/4/3 sec cooldown, aghanims reduces CD to 0.

i'd like to see this happen. eblade dagon tinker who goes bam rearm bam rearm bam is stupid imo

rod of atos should deal 25 damage in addition to the slow to disable blink
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
September 23 2014 18:49 GMT
#464
On September 24 2014 03:32 FHDH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2014 03:29 tehh4ck3r wrote:
On September 24 2014 03:23 Koerage wrote:
On September 24 2014 03:20 tehh4ck3r wrote:
On September 24 2014 02:24 Fleetfeet wrote:
On September 24 2014 01:17 Plansix wrote:
There are problems with that thing(like the shop and the minimap being busted), but it could likely be something like that. The rosh in the promo makes me think its likely coming. I'm happy about it if it comes, because fights over rosh are one part of the game that I miss in the current meta.


The busted things can easily be explained by debug/test shit. If this had to be loaded as a new map entirely, it's very possible that it was A) busted as shit and B) didn't have a minimap, so rendering bugs and stuff aren't enough to suggest it was faked... especially considering I doubt someone would go through the trouble of faking that screenshot and just not bother with the minimap or the rest of the map.


the screenshot and map are very real, they shipped with the big workshop tools update a while back.

honestly don't know why people keep saying it's fake


because its not been announced in any way (and i dont think alot of people called for it either?) and its been there for 10 years, as the post above you said


it's literally in the game files if you download the workshop tools

I think this has been acknowledged repeatedly. It's not that it's a "fake" just not necessarily something that's happening.

Why does this need to happen, anyway? Aren't Dire/Radiant winrates fairly balanced in pro play right now, you just need to draft appropriately for your side? Or is that itself considered problematic?

Most of the stats I see show both sides being balanced. I think the main reason people want it changed is they want the dynamic of fighting over rosh back without returning to the old, fixed timer.(which had its own set of flaws, like teams AFK farming until the timer came up). I think it would be a good change, because I get the feeling a lot of Roshs are going to Dire.
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SoylentGamer
Profile Joined August 2014
United States250 Posts
September 23 2014 19:06 GMT
#465
Okay. Add Winter Wyvern. Strong deathball counter. End of story.
CK is the strongest hero in all of Dota 2, lore wise.
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
September 23 2014 19:12 GMT
#466
On September 24 2014 04:06 SoylentGamer wrote:
Okay. Add Winter Wyvern. Strong deathball counter. End of story.

WW's had her audio recorded since at least December. She's probably coming with Frostivus.
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
SoylentGamer
Profile Joined August 2014
United States250 Posts
September 23 2014 19:22 GMT
#467
On September 24 2014 04:12 Daralii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2014 04:06 SoylentGamer wrote:
Okay. Add Winter Wyvern. Strong deathball counter. End of story.

WW's had her audio recorded since at least December. She's probably coming with Frostivus.

that makes a lot of sense. I'm really excited for her though. Her and Oracle. Heck, Abyssal Underlord team sized relocate sounds awesome too. 6.81 add rest of heroes.
CK is the strongest hero in all of Dota 2, lore wise.
SoylentGamer
Profile Joined August 2014
United States250 Posts
September 23 2014 19:42 GMT
#468
Chrono doesn't go through BKB?
CK is the strongest hero in all of Dota 2, lore wise.
peanuts
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States1225 Posts
September 23 2014 19:47 GMT
#469
Really hoping for a Rosh pit change. Would love the 6.75 idea of moving it to Dire Ancients, make it easier for Rad to scout and also engage without committing as heavily.

RIP my warding patterns though.
Writer"My greatest skill is my enjoyment of the game" - Grubby | @TL_Peanuts
FHDH
Profile Joined July 2014
United States7023 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-23 20:03:51
September 23 2014 20:01 GMT
#470
I say change Roshan so that when the first Ancient is destroyed the center of the map rises into a spiralling mountain the teams must climb and defeat roshan to claim ultimate victory
После драки кулаками не машут (Don't shake your fist when the fight is over)
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
September 23 2014 20:01 GMT
#471
On September 24 2014 04:42 SoylentGamer wrote:
Chrono doesn't go through BKB?

It does, it disables everyone
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
SoylentGamer
Profile Joined August 2014
United States250 Posts
September 23 2014 20:02 GMT
#472
Change lycan's name to lichen.
CK is the strongest hero in all of Dota 2, lore wise.
SoylentGamer
Profile Joined August 2014
United States250 Posts
September 23 2014 20:03 GMT
#473
On September 24 2014 05:01 ahswtini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2014 04:42 SoylentGamer wrote:
Chrono doesn't go through BKB?

It does, it disables everyone

No, as a nerf to void. Make it not go through BKB
CK is the strongest hero in all of Dota 2, lore wise.
Unattended Cake
Profile Joined December 2012
United States877 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-23 20:17:27
September 23 2014 20:16 GMT
#474
On September 24 2014 05:03 SoylentGamer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2014 05:01 ahswtini wrote:
On September 24 2014 04:42 SoylentGamer wrote:
Chrono doesn't go through BKB?

It does, it disables everyone

No, as a nerf to void. Make it not go through BKB


Honestly (edit: imo) that's not much of a double-edged sword considering he can be the initiator and his team can go into the Chrono with BKB's afterwards.
"It's Santa! Get him, Jesus!"
Koerage
Profile Joined April 2012
Netherlands1220 Posts
September 23 2014 20:18 GMT
#475
On September 24 2014 05:16 Unattended Cake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2014 05:03 SoylentGamer wrote:
On September 24 2014 05:01 ahswtini wrote:
On September 24 2014 04:42 SoylentGamer wrote:
Chrono doesn't go through BKB?

It does, it disables everyone

No, as a nerf to void. Make it not go through BKB


Honestly (edit: imo) that's not much of a double-edged sword considering he can be the initiator and his team can go into the Chrono with BKB's afterwards.


still, it would allow the enemy's melee carry or shortrange disabler to jump in with a bkb and do stuff (lasso comes to mind). would actually be a nice way to nerf chrono, but it might not be enough
SoylentGamer
Profile Joined August 2014
United States250 Posts
September 23 2014 20:19 GMT
#476
On September 24 2014 05:16 Unattended Cake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2014 05:03 SoylentGamer wrote:
On September 24 2014 05:01 ahswtini wrote:
On September 24 2014 04:42 SoylentGamer wrote:
Chrono doesn't go through BKB?

It does, it disables everyone

No, as a nerf to void. Make it not go through BKB


Honestly (edit: imo) that's not much of a double-edged sword considering he can be the initiator and his team can go into the Chrono with BKB's afterwards.

True. then you could have CM Chrono combos. That would be broken.
CK is the strongest hero in all of Dota 2, lore wise.
Unattended Cake
Profile Joined December 2012
United States877 Posts
September 23 2014 20:22 GMT
#477
Hm... does he really need the double damage from his Time Lock in Chrono? =/
"It's Santa! Get him, Jesus!"
SoylentGamer
Profile Joined August 2014
United States250 Posts
September 23 2014 20:24 GMT
#478
On September 24 2014 05:18 Koerage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2014 05:16 Unattended Cake wrote:
On September 24 2014 05:03 SoylentGamer wrote:
On September 24 2014 05:01 ahswtini wrote:
On September 24 2014 04:42 SoylentGamer wrote:
Chrono doesn't go through BKB?

It does, it disables everyone

No, as a nerf to void. Make it not go through BKB


Honestly (edit: imo) that's not much of a double-edged sword considering he can be the initiator and his team can go into the Chrono with BKB's afterwards.


still, it would allow the enemy's melee carry or shortrange disabler to jump in with a bkb and do stuff (lasso comes to mind). would actually be a nice way to nerf chrono, but it might not be enough

Visage would be great, both on void's team and against.
CK is the strongest hero in all of Dota 2, lore wise.
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-23 20:29:20
September 23 2014 20:27 GMT
#479
On September 24 2014 04:22 SoylentGamer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2014 04:12 Daralii wrote:
On September 24 2014 04:06 SoylentGamer wrote:
Okay. Add Winter Wyvern. Strong deathball counter. End of story.

WW's had her audio recorded since at least December. She's probably coming with Frostivus.

that makes a lot of sense. I'm really excited for her though. Her and Oracle. Heck, Abyssal Underlord team sized relocate sounds awesome too. 6.81 add rest of heroes.

It seems like they were still debating Abyssal Underlord's design as late as TI4. There were several designs hanging on the wall in fall of 2013, then during TI4 there were two of those left. If they're that far behind on something that basic, I don't see him coming out until after TI5.

2013

2014

I'd expect something like Oracle -> Winter Wyvern -> Arc Warden -> Abyssal Underlord based on what we know currently.
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
tehh4ck3r
Profile Joined August 2013
Magrathea7057 Posts
September 23 2014 20:38 GMT
#480
On September 24 2014 05:27 Daralii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2014 04:22 SoylentGamer wrote:
On September 24 2014 04:12 Daralii wrote:
On September 24 2014 04:06 SoylentGamer wrote:
Okay. Add Winter Wyvern. Strong deathball counter. End of story.

WW's had her audio recorded since at least December. She's probably coming with Frostivus.

that makes a lot of sense. I'm really excited for her though. Her and Oracle. Heck, Abyssal Underlord team sized relocate sounds awesome too. 6.81 add rest of heroes.

It seems like they were still debating Abyssal Underlord's design as late as TI4. There were several designs hanging on the wall in fall of 2013, then during TI4 there were two of those left. If they're that far behind on something that basic, I don't see him coming out until after TI5.

2013

2014

I'd expect something like Oracle -> Winter Wyvern -> Arc Warden -> Abyssal Underlord based on what we know currently.



I thought all the concept art for AU shown at TI4 was old? If there's no new concept art that means they've probably settled on a direction for him already.

I think Oracle and AU are the most likely to come out soon since they've had their abilities and very early alpha skill icons and base textures in the game for quite a while.
AdministratorIn those days, spirits were brave, the stakes were high, men were real men, women were real women, and small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri were real small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri.
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