EPTAbility Draft Thread - Page 35
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Sr18
Netherlands1141 Posts
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Niteblade_
Canada292 Posts
One funny build I had was omni with empower, repel, degenerate aura and blink strike. I had 80 cs at 10 Min's mid lane, could 1v3 by 20min with some basic items. Good times. And napalm shackles is retarded. Only seen it once. So much dog by lvl 2...... | ||
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korendir
Singapore259 Posts
Was practically unkillable though I couldn't really do much damage, so I rushed sceptre to help team before going for shivas bots and AC. Ended 0 kills, 0 deaths and a shitload of assists | ||
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SoylentGamer
United States250 Posts
OD skillset is already broken, put that on with silencer's innate int steal?? GG FF. Focus fire + fury swipes + a bash + a crit = melting heroes Stacking armor reduction spells is also OP, things like Acid Spray, Wave of Terror, Nasal Goo, and Amplify Damage. -40 armor at max level, add medallion, deso, and AC for teh lulz. Caustic Finale + Ether blast + Sadist + Mass Serpent is rat master. Ether blast and finale combo to instagib entire waves, sadist regens all the mana, and mass serpent bulldozes the towers. Natural Order, Ancient Seal, Decrepify, and Finger of death = nuke instagib, build agh's, eblade, and dagon for teh lulz. | ||
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SoylentGamer
United States250 Posts
On November 08 2014 01:40 Sr18 wrote: Berserkers blood + untouchable. Can basically only be killed by pure damage and during bkb. Add craggy exterior to that too. :3 | ||
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SKC
Brazil18828 Posts
And people like heroes that make your team fight 4v5. | ||
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SoylentGamer
United States250 Posts
On November 08 2014 05:51 SKC wrote: Just stacking defensive skills is kinda shitty. I have no idea why people love it that much. This is a game mode where you can do stuff like: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDdeI_KNS6s And people like heroes that make your team fight 4v5. I once went Treant with Bristle Back, and Backtrack :/ rushed vanguard then went heart, ended up getting 2 hearts in the end, I was unkillable and in fights I could suck up the bulwark of the damage in fights, since I was a strength hero, those hearts also gave me ridiculous DPS. | ||
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SKC
Brazil18828 Posts
Tree body is ridiculous enough that you can be useful even if you just skilled stats, but with just defensive skills your laning sucks, you have no way to farm and can only hope people are bad enough to underestimate you. You would always be much better with skills that actually do something. It's not that they never works, I've seen plenty of useless heroes keep farming for 30 mins while the team wins 4v5 and then come out with radiance + AC or whathever and do something. But it's just not the best builds you can draft. | ||
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SoylentGamer
United States250 Posts
On November 08 2014 06:13 SKC wrote: You can only suck up the bulk of the damage in a fight if they for some reason decide to attack the guy that never dies but does no damage. Tree body is ridiculous enough that you can be useful even if you just skilled stats, but with just defensive skills your laning sucks, you have no way to farm and can only hope people are bad enough to underestimate you. You would always be much better with skills that actually do something. It's not that they never works, I've seen plenty of useless heroes keep farming for 30 mins while the team wins 4v5 and then come out with radiance + AC or whathever and do something. But it's just not the best builds you can draft. This is ability draft we're talking about. People aren't this smart in Ability draft, they'll totally focus the tank. | ||
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westpfelia
United States38 Posts
On November 08 2014 06:15 SoylentGamer wrote: This is ability draft we're talking about. People aren't this smart in Ability draft, they'll totally focus the tank. What do you mean people arent smart in ability draft?? | ||
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SoylentGamer
United States250 Posts
On November 08 2014 06:21 westpfelia wrote: What do you mean people arent smart in ability draft?? I see people doing things like stacking nukes on say, phantom assassin, then continuing to just go phase and cleave as if they were playing normal phantom assassin all the time. | ||
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SKC
Brazil18828 Posts
That still doesn't mean those builds are good. You win games you would win anyway. They are shitty the few times the opponents know how to play. | ||
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BlindSC2
United Kingdom435 Posts
AM base hero with: Shukuchi, Pounce, Dark Pact, BroodUlt. I was really lucky to get all those skills to be honest, I was second pick with first taking chemical rage. Essentially a super annoying hero that can go in and out of fight at will with all the low cooldown abilities (mana permitting, which didn't happen too often until much later), has some burst damage AND sustainable right click with the ult, could split push decently too, and help push back the guy that went webs/spiderlings/wolves. Went aquila treads orchid butterfly MKB(they had incapacitating bite) skadi and finally linkens. Won the game through split pushing and ganking with orchid and avoiding teamfights until eventually just becoming too difficult to kill after skadi and especially linkens. Should have probably gotten the linkens earlier than I did really, would have been able to split push far more aggressively. | ||
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Svetz
Australia311 Posts
Do you take Chrono yourself to stop them being able to abuse the void + whatever hero picked it bashing you to death? I normally leave it and get an ulti to go with my build but I find the void being able to pick a different ulti and still run around in the chrono can lead to you getting mashed, I've even seen int heros take the chrono then get a refresher to let void have as much time as he needs to take down half your team  | ||
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msl
Germany477 Posts
On November 08 2014 05:51 SKC wrote: Just stacking defensive skills is kinda shitty. I have no idea why people love it that much. This is a game mode where you can do stuff like: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDdeI_KNS6s And people like heroes that make your team fight 4v5. Depends on the Hero and the skills. It can be good i the right circumstances. See here: http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/962901319 I was the Centaur with all passives and just stood in front tanking everything never dying and allowing the team to deal damage from the backline. It's circumstancial, sure, but so is everything in AD. I am more amazed by people constanly undervaluing stuns in AD, I had Heroes with 3 stuns on them which is just crazy. Fun Hero I build recently: Zeus with Vendetta, Natural Order and two nukes. Enemy WR with Walrus punch build Rapier first.-> Dat Zeus rightclick! Natural Order is way undervalued IMHO. | ||
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Belisarius
Australia6226 Posts
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SKC
Brazil18828 Posts
http://dotametrics.wordpress.com/2014/06/11/random-ability-draft-hero-win-rates/ | ||
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Howie_Dewitt
United States1416 Posts
The int steal was real Centaur with beserkers blood, grow, untouchable, and glaives Unkillable and great farmer with HoD Earthshaker with flesh heap, reincarnation, return, and tombstone I cried everytiem once he got refresher | ||
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Belisarius
Australia6226 Posts
On November 10 2014 21:26 SKC wrote: Void actually had a really shitty winrate in AD http://dotametrics.wordpress.com/2014/06/11/random-ability-draft-hero-win-rates/ Really? Huh. I guess at the end of the day he's still a melee chassis with poor int. Those stats are actually pretty interesting. No surprise that silencer is owning. Warlock and gyro are kinda dark horses. Like I'd be happy if I got them, but I wouldn't have put them top5/10. Also surprised timber is like weaver-tier. I usually don't mind him since he has great int for a str hero. Even Pudge isn't that bad, I would have thought. I wonder if that's due to people not being able to resist firstpicking hook when they get him or something... EDIT: 1234 posts on LD. Alright then. | ||
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Svetz
Australia311 Posts
I see so many people trying to make weaver body carries and just ending up being terrible so no surprise to see he's so low, but pudge surprises me. I've played a few games last night and got Web several times. You can make some really strong position based combos with web and can end up carrying the game even if the rest of your team does nothing. I've found battery assault/rocket barrage combined with fiends grip is a great combo that won't be counter picked but does insane damage 1on1 providing you can get close (blink or web). | ||
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