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-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
March 14 2014 15:34 GMT
#641
On March 10 2014 07:53 Svetz wrote:
Divided we stand with wolves let you summon 10 wolves at a time.

That was probably the fastest game i've ever seen, 12 minutes :/


Wolves, Treants, Eidolons plus Divided We Stand would be even faster I think.
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
Jinxed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States6450 Posts
March 14 2014 15:53 GMT
#642
On March 15 2014 00:34 -Celestial- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2014 07:53 Svetz wrote:
Divided we stand with wolves let you summon 10 wolves at a time.

That was probably the fastest game i've ever seen, 12 minutes :/


Wolves, Treants, Eidolons plus Divided We Stand would be even faster I think.


And then that one guy gets Overwhelming Odds and suddenly you can't push anymore and you're pretty much useless.
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Jotoco
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil1342 Posts
March 14 2014 18:14 GMT
#643
On March 15 2014 00:34 -Celestial- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2014 07:53 Svetz wrote:
Divided we stand with wolves let you summon 10 wolves at a time.

That was probably the fastest game i've ever seen, 12 minutes :/


Wolves, Treants, Eidolons plus Divided We Stand would be even faster I think.


Nether Blast + Edict + Essence Aura + Divided we stand is even faster, deadlier and has less counters.

I would like to see 5 nether blasts hitting a tower. You could probably just backdoor a T4 in a handful of seconds.
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
March 14 2014 21:00 GMT
#644
Hahahahah our Lich got Divided We Stand, ES totem, flak cannon and vengeance aura. Easiest game of my life
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
March 14 2014 23:59 GMT
#645
On March 15 2014 00:53 LeLoup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2014 00:34 -Celestial- wrote:
On March 10 2014 07:53 Svetz wrote:
Divided we stand with wolves let you summon 10 wolves at a time.

That was probably the fastest game i've ever seen, 12 minutes :/


Wolves, Treants, Eidolons plus Divided We Stand would be even faster I think.


And then that one guy gets Overwhelming Odds and suddenly you can't push anymore and you're pretty much useless.


Fun-killer.
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
Svetz
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia311 Posts
March 15 2014 01:39 GMT
#646
Still don't get why people insisting on trying to build stupid carry builds on terrible bodies. Crystal Maiden gets a bunch of passives and CK ulti. Your still going to hit like a pansy and die in 2 hits!
When I grow up I want to be Harry Dresden ;(
evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
March 15 2014 23:04 GMT
#647
On March 15 2014 10:39 Svetz wrote:
Still don't get why people insisting on trying to build stupid carry builds on terrible bodies. Crystal Maiden gets a bunch of passives and CK ulti. Your still going to hit like a pansy and die in 2 hits!


just had a cm who drafted both overpower and furyswipe

didn't matter she was a cm, her base dmg prolly same as ursa's hahaha
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rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
March 15 2014 23:57 GMT
#648
overpower is generally really good.
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Svetz
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia311 Posts
March 16 2014 00:36 GMT
#649
over power and furyswipe on any ranged is imba
When I grow up I want to be Harry Dresden ;(
TerransHill
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany572 Posts
March 16 2014 00:45 GMT
#650
On March 15 2014 03:14 Jotoco wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2014 00:34 -Celestial- wrote:
On March 10 2014 07:53 Svetz wrote:
Divided we stand with wolves let you summon 10 wolves at a time.

That was probably the fastest game i've ever seen, 12 minutes :/


Wolves, Treants, Eidolons plus Divided We Stand would be even faster I think.


Nether Blast + Edict + Essence Aura + Divided we stand is even faster, deadlier and has less counters.

I would like to see 5 nether blasts hitting a tower. You could probably just backdoor a T4 in a handful of seconds.


Had riki with divided we stand today. I picked Nether Blast+Nether Ward. Its kinda ridiculous, 5 Nether wards make sure that everyone who casts a spell is dead instantly and Nether Blast takes care of the rest.

devided we stand should be removed from ad, it destroys the game mode completly. Whenever its in the pool the first pick wins the game.
Respect my authoritah!!
makmeatt
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
2024 Posts
March 16 2014 10:36 GMT
#651
On March 16 2014 09:45 TerransHill wrote:
devided we stand should be removed from ad, it destroys the game mode completly. Whenever its in the pool the first pick wins the game.

A lot like Fiery Soul in conjunction with a spammable spell.
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hefty
Profile Joined January 2005
Denmark555 Posts
March 16 2014 12:11 GMT
#652
On March 16 2014 19:36 makmeatt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2014 09:45 TerransHill wrote:
devided we stand should be removed from ad, it destroys the game mode completly. Whenever its in the pool the first pick wins the game.

A lot like Fiery Soul in conjunction with a spammable spell.

I don't find that is nearly as bad. There are many such godly combos - aftershock and spammable spells comes to mind - but the problem is that DWS is overpowered with the majority of abilities en the game, which means counterpicking is futile. If someone gets fiery soul or aftershock, their opponents can focus on picking up the best low cd spells. With DWS - what can you do? Take all actives?
et
Profile Joined September 2010
Switzerland367 Posts
March 16 2014 13:47 GMT
#653
Do orb attacks like drows arrow count as "spells" for fiery soul, aftershock and war path etc?
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Severedevil
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4839 Posts
March 16 2014 13:59 GMT
#654
Played Axe with Arcane Aura + Fissure + Enchant. Outrageous laning phase. Jungles good, boosts every lane with Arcane Aura, and come in whenever it's convenient to trap the bad guys up against a big creep.

Also, Laguna Blade looks awesome with the Axe dunk animation.
My strategy is to fork people.
TerransHill
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany572 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-16 14:06:21
March 16 2014 14:04 GMT
#655
On March 16 2014 21:11 hefty wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2014 19:36 makmeatt wrote:
On March 16 2014 09:45 TerransHill wrote:
devided we stand should be removed from ad, it destroys the game mode completly. Whenever its in the pool the first pick wins the game.

A lot like Fiery Soul in conjunction with a spammable spell.

I don't find that is nearly as bad. There are many such godly combos - aftershock and spammable spells comes to mind - but the problem is that DWS is overpowered with the majority of abilities en the game, which means counterpicking is futile. If someone gets fiery soul or aftershock, their opponents can focus on picking up the best low cd spells. With DWS - what can you do? Take all actives?


exactly... The only way to counter DWS is when you get extremely lucky with very little useful active spells in the pool but what are the odds?
Of course AD is more of a fun mode and it cant/shouldnt be balanced but DWS screws it so hard.

On March 16 2014 22:47 et wrote:
Do orb attacks like drows arrow count as "spells" for fiery soul, aftershock and war path etc?


Nope. But I know that Arcane Orb triggers Overload, dont know about other Spells.
Respect my authoritah!!
VIPrandom
Profile Joined March 2014
Canada25 Posts
March 17 2014 16:44 GMT
#656
Is it possible to select two different Ultimate in ability draft ? If yes, I think the combination of Zeus and Tinker ultimates would be the most powerful and nothing could match it.

If you could pick 2 ult, which one would you choose ?

By the way, this is my first post in the forum. Hope we will have great opportunities to discuss about dota & esports!
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
March 17 2014 16:47 GMT
#657
No, you can't take 2 ultis.
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ECA.BruTATroN
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States282 Posts
March 17 2014 16:56 GMT
#658
Tidehunter...
Reactive armor
Kraken shell
counter helix
and Grow t.t
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Svetz
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia311 Posts
March 17 2014 22:46 GMT
#659
Well I lost my first ever game with DWS. I feel like I need to quit Dota now.

I had weaver body and first pick was Heat seeking missiles.
I knew I was going to be squidgy with a weaver body, so I got gravekeepers cloak as a second pick, which turned out to be a massive mistake.
When it got to third pick all that was left was TC stomp, which is pretty much useless without ancestral spirit (80 damage).

Spent the entire game going into team fights, launching a salvo of missiles, getting there entire team to 25% hp, then their team team rolled over my team and me before the cooldown reset (I don't think my team had a single stun or disable).

They had a pretty nasty abbadon with shukuchi, natural order and level 5 dagon who was level 25 before anyone on my team was past 15 (I'm not sure what happened in the top lanes!), so from about that point onwards, if i left the base he could nuke me down before I even knew he was there

Ah well, I've beat one DWS now and lost as one so I guess I'm 1-1 in shame/celebration!
When I grow up I want to be Harry Dresden ;(
SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
March 17 2014 23:57 GMT
#660
On March 15 2014 06:00 plasmidghost wrote:
Hahahahah our Lich got Divided We Stand, ES totem, flak cannon and vengeance aura. Easiest game of my life

Did the vengance aura stack?

And damn I saw a vid with Wraith King that had March, Hook, Carrion Swarm, and Divided we Stand, damn he was killing the guys at the fountain with 4 stacks of march.
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