EPTI just wasn't sure how low I *should* go, but that gives me a good ballpark, thanks.
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Mysticesper
United States1183 Posts
I just wasn't sure how low I *should* go, but that gives me a good ballpark, thanks. | ||
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Banaora
Germany234 Posts
On October 30 2013 21:41 Incognoto wrote: Anyway, update on my own situation with the HTPC which refuses to connect. I looked up what network adapter my desktop had (since it works perfectly fine) and it's apparently the same network adapater the HTPC has. It's the Realtek PCIe GBE Family Controller. So, I decided it would be worth trying to install the exact same drivers that my desktop uses on the HTPC. Installation went smoothly, absolutely no problem, however it still doesn't work. The HTPC still acts as if no ethernet cable is plugged in. I'm still getting the light blinking slowly on my router. The drivers and network adaptors on both the HTPC and my desktop are exactly the same. I also tried bringing down the HTPC into the kitchen pantry, where the router is. Plugging the HTPC directly into the router works perfectly fine. It's only when I bring the HTPC back up to my parents room that it acts as if no cable is plugged in. My desktop, in that same room, works fine. Both computers are running on Windows 7 64 bit. I'm stumped as fuck. I'm considering buying an ethernet card but I have this sinking feeling that it won't solve the issue. I'm not supposed to buy an ethernet card, the onboard network adapter of the HTPC's motherboard should be more than sufficient. It doesn't make any sense. The signal from the htpcs ethernet controller seems to be too weak to reach the router from your parents room. Realtek has different sorts of gigabit ethernet controllers in the market, so you can only be sure they are the same if their PCI device ids match. Device Manager->Ethernet Card->Properties->Details->Hardware-IDs Buying an ethernet card could work but you can't know beforehand. Buying an ethernet switch could also work. Checking the cabling in the house is also a possibility. Do you have CAT-5e cables btw? | ||
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
On October 31 2013 16:25 Banaora wrote: The signal from the htpcs ethernet controller seems to be too weak to reach the router from your parents room. Realtek has different sorts of gigabit ethernet controllers in the market, so you can only be sure they are the same if their PCI device ids match. Device Manager->Ethernet Card->Properties->Details->Hardware-IDs Buying an ethernet card could work but you can't know beforehand. Buying an ethernet switch could also work. Checking the cabling in the house is also a possibility. Do you have CAT-5e cables btw? They probably aren't CAT-5e cables since I don't know what such cables are. Probably just standard ethernet cables. I'm pretty sure that the cables aren't the problem since my desktop works in my parent's room. This would indicate that the HTPC itself is the problem here. I've considered buying an ethernet card, though recently I'm leaning towards telling my parents to get another router. We're currently using a Livebox 2 which is some router, I'm guessing it's shitty but I can't be sure. I'm looking into suggesting buying a more powerful router but I have no idea what makes a router good. I have a lot of research in front me. However one thing intrigues me, it's when you say "the signal from the htpcs ethernet controller seems to be too weak to reach the router from your parents room." Does that mean that it's not really a problem of the signal from the router to the htpc being a problem, rather the htpc can't send a signal to the router? In which case it would make more sense to buy a "stronger" ethernet card? I'll check to see if the device IDs match, though I'm guessing that they don't. We already have an ethernet switch but it seems like a piece of garbage that doesn't transmit the signal. We don't really need it since we have 4 ethernet ports on our livebox anyway. | ||
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Banaora
Germany234 Posts
If you have a switch at home bring the switch to your parents room, connect it to the router and then connect the htpc to the switch and test if it works. I don't think your router is the problem because your desktop works. | ||
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
On October 31 2013 17:40 Banaora wrote: Usually CAT-5e is the normal ethernet cable you buy today. If your house cabling is older than 10 years you probably don't have it. You can read up on that on wikipedia if you want. I'm also just guessing around as this is all you can do from the distance, so that's why I mentioned it. If you have a switch at home bring the switch to your parents room, connect it to the router and then connect the htpc to the switch and test if it works. I don't think your router is the problem because your desktop works. I already tried doing with the switch, funny thing is that the switch detects the HTPC (little light in the corresponding slot) but it doesn't receive a signal from the router itself. The switch I feel is just a hub for ethernet cables, incapable of amplifying or continuing a signal. I don't think the router is the problem anymore either, I'm starting to think that I just need a quality ethernet card. What are your thoughts? Oh and house is 1 year old. | ||
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Rollin
Australia1552 Posts
On October 31 2013 18:03 Incognoto wrote: I already tried doing with the switch, funny thing is that the switch detects the HTPC (little light in the corresponding slot) but it doesn't receive a signal from the router itself. The switch I feel is just a hub for ethernet cables, incapable of amplifying or continuing a signal. I don't think the router is the problem anymore either, I'm starting to think that I just need a quality ethernet card. What are your thoughts? Oh and house is 1 year old. What, a pci-e ethernet card for your desktop? :/ The only possible reason you'd need that is if your motherboard is faulty. | ||
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
On October 31 2013 18:44 Rollin wrote: What, a pci-e ethernet card for your desktop? :/ The only possible reason you'd need that is if your motherboard is faulty. It's not faulty, it can't be, since it works perfectly fine if plugged directly into the router. I really can't be fucked to RMA a perfectly good motherboard. Problem lies somewhere else. ^^" | ||
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Banaora
Germany234 Posts
[Edit] Just read your description again. If there is a seperate light for every port you have an ethernet switch. And it means the ethernet switch itself does not recognise the router but it recognises your htpc. So yeah... check cabling and/or router So some more ideas: If you have a 30-50m ethernet cable at home, try to connect it directly to the router from your parents room and see if the htpc works. If it does there is something wrong with the cabling in your house for example cable bent too much etc. You could also test with a different router like borrow one from a friend of yours. You tested your desktop and the htpc from your parents room. Did you test any other computers and did they work? If all computers work except the htpc there is most likely something wrong with its motherboard. | ||
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
On October 31 2013 20:08 Banaora wrote: An ethernet switch is working differently than an ethernet hub. A switch is sending the signal it receives by itself to the destination if the destination is on a different port. If you only have a hub it makes no sense to use it for testing here. [Edit] Just read your description again. If there is a seperate light for every port you have an ethernet switch. And it means the ethernet switch itself does not recognise the router but it recognises your htpc. So yeah... check cabling and/or router So some more ideas: If you have a 30-50m ethernet cable at home, try to connect it directly to the router from your parents room and see if the htpc works. If it does there is something wrong with the cabling in your house for example cable bent too much etc. You could also test with a different router like borrow one from a friend of yours. You tested your desktop and the htpc from your parents room. Did you test any other computers and did they work? If all computers work except the htpc there is most likely something wrong with its motherboard. 2 desktops work in my parent's room, the HTPC and 3 different laptops don't work. | ||
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Ropid
Germany3557 Posts
On October 31 2013 23:47 Incognoto wrote: 2 desktops work in my parent's room, the HTPC and 3 different laptops don't work. I can only imagine the cable in the wall not working right for the auto-detection on that network adapter, but you said you tried the different settings manually? I mean this stuff: + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/R80WEy0.png) | ||
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Usagi
Spain1647 Posts
On another note, I think I have only encountered one problem, today I hooked up HDD, I couldnt do it last night because I had only 2 sata cables, and had to hook the optical drive and the SSD to install the OS. So I didi it today after I bought an extra cable. The thing is, while I can see it when I go into windows device manager, it doesnt show up and I cant chose to save files to it, I am quite confident the sata cables are correctly placed.... or it wouldnt show right? is there anything I should be looking at? I let windows install the latest drivers, and I dont think it came with any kind of dvd. | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
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Usagi
Spain1647 Posts
 I didnt know what to look for when I tried to ask Mr Google | ||
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
On November 01 2013 03:01 Ropid wrote: I can only imagine the cable in the wall not working right for the auto-detection on that network adapter, but you said you tried the different settings manually? I mean this stuff: + Show Spoiler + I fiddled with quite a lot of those settings, yes. Cable in the wall should be fine if my desktop works without hassle in my parent's room. The laptops that refuse to work in my parent's room also refuse to work in my room. ^^ It's pretty flabbergasting. | ||
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4tre55
Germany330 Posts
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Ata
Canada356 Posts
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Cyro
United Kingdom20345 Posts
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Ata
Canada356 Posts
I feel like even the 650ti boost is too much. edit: as in would the pentium drop fps in dota2? | ||
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France10239 Posts
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United Kingdom20345 Posts
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