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What is your budget?
400-600
What is your monitor's native resolution?
1920x1080
What games do you intend to play on this computer? What settings?
DotA2/BF4/ and other upcoming titles.
What do you intend to use the computer for besides gaming?
nothing
Do you intend to overclock?
Depends, most likely not
Do you intend to do SLI / Crossfire?
No
Do you need an operating system?
No
Do you need a monitor or any other peripherals and is this part of your budget?
No
If you have any requirements or brand preferences, please specify.
None, whatever is most reliable/RMA
What country will you be buying your parts in?
USA
If you have any retailer preferences, please specify.
Microcenter or newegg, other places is fine
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On October 31 2013 03:42 Candide wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
What is your budget?
400-600
What is your monitor's native resolution?
1920x1080
What games do you intend to play on this computer? What settings?
DotA2/BF4/ and other upcoming titles.
What do you intend to use the computer for besides gaming?
nothing
Do you intend to overclock?
Depends, most likely not
Do you intend to do SLI / Crossfire?
No
Do you need an operating system?
No
Do you need a monitor or any other peripherals and is this part of your budget?
No
If you have any requirements or brand preferences, please specify.
None, whatever is most reliable/RMA
What country will you be buying your parts in?
USA
If you have any retailer preferences, please specify.
Microcenter or newegg, other places is fine
$600 for BF4 means you aren't going to play on maxed settings, but I'm sure you've realized that. My recommendation for ~$620:
+ Show Spoiler +
Pretty sure that with the 4570 you'll get by. Given the budget I wanted to try going with an i3 but BF4 is CPU demanding so it's not a good idea. GPU is a bit on the weak side for BF4 with a 7850. It's close in performance to the 650 Ti (boost) but there's one good thing about this card is that you can overclock it. It fits the budget. If you're willing to dish out ~$50 more, you can look into acquiring a 7870 GHz or perhaps a 270X. Depends on your wallet.
Rest of the build is made of good value products. Core 1000 is a great case for its price, MSI H81M-E33 does a great job of holding everything together at a good price, 8 Gb of RAM and you also get a great PSU in the Capstone 450. At first I wanted to suggest going with a CX430 but I've realized that it's literally only a $20 difference. Go with the Capstone and everything will be amazing.
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On October 31 2013 04:34 Incognoto wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2013 03:42 Candide wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
What is your budget?
400-600
What is your monitor's native resolution?
1920x1080
What games do you intend to play on this computer? What settings?
DotA2/BF4/ and other upcoming titles.
What do you intend to use the computer for besides gaming?
nothing
Do you intend to overclock?
Depends, most likely not
Do you intend to do SLI / Crossfire?
No
Do you need an operating system?
No
Do you need a monitor or any other peripherals and is this part of your budget?
No
If you have any requirements or brand preferences, please specify.
None, whatever is most reliable/RMA
What country will you be buying your parts in?
USA
If you have any retailer preferences, please specify.
Microcenter or newegg, other places is fine
$600 for BF4 means you aren't going to play on maxed settings, but I'm sure you've realized that. My recommendation for ~$620: + Show Spoiler +Pretty sure that with the 4570 you'll get by. Given the budget I wanted to try going with an i3 but BF4 is CPU demanding so it's not a good idea. GPU is a bit on the weak side for BF4 with a 7850. It's close in performance to the 650 Ti (boost) but there's one good thing about this card is that you can overclock it. It fits the budget. If you're willing to dish out ~$50 more, you can look into acquiring a 7870 GHz or perhaps a 270X. Depends on your wallet. Rest of the build is made of good value products. Core 1000 is a great case for its price, MSI H81M-E33 does a great job of holding everything together at a good price, 8 Gb of RAM and you also get a great PSU in the Capstone 450. At first I wanted to suggest going with a CX430 but I've realized that it's literally only a $20 difference. Go with the Capstone and everything will be amazing.
I'm not too fussed with playing BF4 on max settings really, I have a weaker setup currently that I am giving to my brother's girlfriend and its a i52400 with 5770 radeon which plays it perfectly fine albeitedly on low settings. Never heard of capstone, is it reliable? thanks anyways
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Rosewill Capstone 450 is a very good, very reliable, universally recommended PSU, check OP. SkyR incessantly recommends it as well, which should tell you something. I used to not think too much of it at first because you can't find Rosewill stuff in France.
But yeah I'd go with 7850 + OC.
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Rosewill Capstone are rebranded Superflower Golden Greens.
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+ Show Spoiler +On October 31 2013 04:44 Candide wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2013 04:34 Incognoto wrote:On October 31 2013 03:42 Candide wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
What is your budget?
400-600
What is your monitor's native resolution?
1920x1080
What games do you intend to play on this computer? What settings?
DotA2/BF4/ and other upcoming titles.
What do you intend to use the computer for besides gaming?
nothing
Do you intend to overclock?
Depends, most likely not
Do you intend to do SLI / Crossfire?
No
Do you need an operating system?
No
Do you need a monitor or any other peripherals and is this part of your budget?
No
If you have any requirements or brand preferences, please specify.
None, whatever is most reliable/RMA
What country will you be buying your parts in?
USA
If you have any retailer preferences, please specify.
Microcenter or newegg, other places is fine
$600 for BF4 means you aren't going to play on maxed settings, but I'm sure you've realized that. My recommendation for ~$620: + Show Spoiler +Pretty sure that with the 4570 you'll get by. Given the budget I wanted to try going with an i3 but BF4 is CPU demanding so it's not a good idea. GPU is a bit on the weak side for BF4 with a 7850. It's close in performance to the 650 Ti (boost) but there's one good thing about this card is that you can overclock it. It fits the budget. If you're willing to dish out ~$50 more, you can look into acquiring a 7870 GHz or perhaps a 270X. Depends on your wallet. Rest of the build is made of good value products. Core 1000 is a great case for its price, MSI H81M-E33 does a great job of holding everything together at a good price, 8 Gb of RAM and you also get a great PSU in the Capstone 450. At first I wanted to suggest going with a CX430 but I've realized that it's literally only a $20 difference. Go with the Capstone and everything will be amazing. I'm not too fussed with playing BF4 on max settings really, I have a weaker setup currently that I am giving to my brother's girlfriend and its a i52400 with 5770 radeon which plays it perfectly fine albeitedly on low settings. Never heard of capstone, is it reliable? thanks anyways
Rosewill is known to have put out horrible PSU in the past.
but the capstone is very reliable. Has a good 40 + Amps in the 12 V rail, along with japanese capacitors (Jap capacitors are quality caps for PSU). it is also resonably priced and 80 Plus Gold certified (did a lot of research thanks to skyr's constant capstone recommendation :D He really knows his stuff )
ATM, the 550w modular capstone is on sale for $70 with free shipping. i would recommened that over the 450w since its only $7 more (the 450w is charged with shipping). and the 550w modular is cheaper than the 450w modular atm and it also gives u more room for future in case u want to OC.
Look at various prices here for capstone
+ Show Spoiler +http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&Description=rosewill+capstone+&N=-1&isNodeId=1
In addition, the MSI 7850 gpu is on sale at new egg for $110. not sure how good of a brand the MSI version is but someone else can help you with that.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127727&nm_mc=OTC-pr1c3grabb3r&cm_mmc=OTC-pr1c3grabb3r-_-Video Cards - AMD/ATI-_-MSI-_-14127727
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All of them look interesting, two 770's shouldn't be too difficult to cool compared to gk110 or 290/290x (my windforce cooler @60% fanspeed is able to level off temps @1293mhz, 70-75c under gaming/unigine loads, but makes an annoying noise past low 60's)
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Carbide Air 540 @ $200 is kinda crazy imo, I am a big fan FT02 RV02 interior.
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It's australian money so everything is crazy, hard to judge what is crazier than normal
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I get that but the silverstone prices are similar to Canada (on that site) and the corsair ones have a ~%30 premium. Not sure if due to shipping or what but I feel like there is price equilibrium in Canada in terms of quality/price which I dont feel like it applies for those cases. But what do I know. :S
Funny how I found the Air 540 too expensive at $150 when I was looking at it a month back.
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Aussies pay a premium on everything despite our relatively strong dollar. Not much choice; in the majority of cases you'd either end up spending more on shipping than you would save or be shipping high end parts (along with all the risks involved and potential problems with warranty etc)
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On October 31 2013 13:02 Brett wrote:
Aussies pay a premium on everything despite our relatively strong dollar. Not much choice; in the majority of cases you'd either end up spending more on shipping than you would save or be shipping high end parts (along with all the risks involved and potential problems with warranty etc)
I ship a lot of my electronic goods over (obviously not cases though), and until it's cheaper to buy it here, I will continue to buy from overseas.
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Hello Everyone,
I was hoping for some opinions on a couple of computers I am looking at? To be honest, I barely understand anything about computers. At all. Like near to nothing. lol. My friend built me a computer about 4 years ago, nothing too fancy but large tower, dual hard drive, dual dvd, just 4gb ram(ddr2), NVidia quadro. I know, not much to look at. But it worked for my gaming needs at the time, which was only starcraft.
However one of my ram stick slots fried and I'm down to one stick. I figured instead of investing money into fixing, I might as well invest money into a new computer. My previous friend is no longer around so I turn to you all! I read the first page, and while building a computer has a certain appeal (especially if I could use my hard drives and current case and not have to worry about spending money there) I worry that I just wouldn't be able to do it properly.
Now, I only game and stream. I do want to expand to DOTA and Hearthstone, but again all I do is just game and stream. (currently I can stream at 720p but nothing higher, with nothing else going on) So I think I only need a fairly basic model?
I was looking at:
http://www.ibuypower.com/Store/AMD-FM2-A-Series-APU
Which is their cheapest one currently. Now if I understood what I read on the first page of this thread, the Power supply is too weak, so needs an upgrade, and it doesn't have Intel but AMD. So I believe those are cons? Also no operating system so at least $100 on that.
I was told to also look here:
http://dealnews.com/Dell-Opti-Plex-7010-Ivy-Core-i5-Quad-3.2-GHz-PC-for-554-free-shipping/890519.html
I was told better processer, Ram was low but easy to replace?, and 500gb hardrive was ok considering I'm not downloading much of anything except songs.
Any expert opinions (which would be anyone that knows more than me lol) would be much appreciated. If this in anyway violates the proper decorum of a request I apologize and will resubmit. (although I think I read I could post links and just get feedback?)
Thank you all. Go MMA!
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You probably don't want a dual core like the AMD A6 in the Ibuypower build for streaming and the Dell build only has integrated graphics which would only be able to play DotA on like low-medium at 1080p. While DotA, Broodwar, and Hearthstone aren't demanding games, you definitely want a video card if you "game" and a quad core for streaming.
Since you already have harddrives to use for storage or as a primary drive, you'd come up with something much better if you decide to build yourself.
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Yes, you can get something definitely better if you don't need to rebuy drives and so on.
If you really don't care much for spending a few hours figuring out how to and then actually installing hardware, I'd take something like the second option I suppose, especially if you aren't playing newer games. If you later add a graphics card, it needn't be a higher-end model.
However, rather than that Optiplex (which is the slimmer form factor that further restricts graphics card options), you can get a cheaper HP Pavillion with a better CPU, better integrated graphics, more RAM, and more hard drive space, at a lower cost:
http://www.logicbuy.com/deals/hp-pavilion-500/46878.aspx
Well, installing a low-power graphics card is really not all that complicated, so you could just buy something like the above and some $85 HD 7750 or so...
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On October 31 2013 13:02 Brett wrote:
Aussies pay a premium on everything despite our relatively strong dollar. Not much choice; in the majority of cases you'd either end up spending more on shipping than you would save or be shipping high end parts (along with all the risks involved and potential problems with warranty etc)
Yeah its pretty unfortunate seeing the price disparities in Australia 
I'm not sure if anyone knows Australian prices very well, but there's a sale on the MSI HD7970, dropped to about $310.
I've been considering the 7950 and I don't know if I should hold off and hope for future sales or get the 7970 now?
In comparison a gtx 770 is about $320 and a HD 7950 is about $290, would it be worth it to get the 7970 or just stick with 7950?
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Well, the cheapest MSI 7950 is 274
the cheapest MSI 7970 is 299.99
Cheapest 770 is 329.99
US prices pulled from pcpartpicker.
so your prices seem good on those GPUs, at least.
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I'm working out a build for a friend who is doing very little (if any) gaming and lots of professional work (modeling, computations, etc), and should I just look at cards at the bottom of the GPU list (GTX 650-660, 7700 series cards, r7 260) on the OP, or something else?
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I wouldn't buy a premade computer these days, especially not ibuypower. Like seriously, A6-6400k in a gaming building? That's the kind of procesor you would use in an HTPC or a web-browsing PC, I would know because I put in the A6-5400k into mine. It's good because it's really cheap and it has integrated graphics, neither of which are interesting in a gaming rig. You make an additional $32 just to get a budget CX430, when that PSU actually costs $39. You could go on and on about how bad ibuypower is. ^^
That Dell is a bit better but it's using Ivy Bridge which is a generation old (that doesn't equate to it being cheaper btw), Windows 7 which is also a generation old, only 4 Gb of RAM. 500 Gb in a hard drive is also a bit silly because they're actually really expensive given how little storage they give.
I really recommend taking the time to doing a little research, looking for your own parts and then building a new PC from scratch. You'll save money since apparently you can reuse the case and HDD from your old build and you'll learn some stuff. Building a computer is actually easy and fun as fuck, the hardest part by far is choosing the right shit to buy.
For $400, you can get all this stuff:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00CO8TBR4/?tag=pcpapi-20
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B006BCKDGW/?tag=pcpapi-20
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130730&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148544&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=
With a budget of $500-600, and assuming you do indeed reuse your previous parts, that's $100-200 you can throw into a nice graphics card.
edit: Sometimes my English fails quite horribly when I post in this thread.
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On October 31 2013 15:11 Mysticesper wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Well, the cheapest MSI 7950 is 274
the cheapest MSI 7970 is 299.99
Cheapest 770 is 329.99
US prices pulled from pcpartpicker.
so your prices seem good on those GPUs, at least.
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I'm working out a build for a friend who is doing very little (if any) gaming and lots of professional work (modeling, computations, etc), and should I just look at cards at the bottom of the GPU list (GTX 650-660, 7700 series cards, r7 260) on the OP, or something else?
That's a bit over generalizing. It could be a reference cooler or a Twin Frozr IV.
Modeling is a bit vague but you would probably want a card with at least 2GB of VRAM.
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