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Crushinator
Profile Joined August 2011
Netherlands2138 Posts
November 09 2011 14:17 GMT
#801
I also got my tenkeyless Leopold with red switches delivered today. It is my first mechanical keyboard. I t was very expensive to get it delivered here. I could not find any red switch keyboards in Europe except for Filco which was so absurdly expensive that I decided to import from the US, elitekeyboards.com to be exact. It cost me 100 dollars for the keyboard, 55 for shipping and then another 50 because Dutch customs decided to charge me. So, in total it cost me over 150 euros, more than I expected but still much less than the Filco with reds and not much more than a brown or blue Filco from a European shop.

I think I am glad to have spent the extra money for the reds. Though I do not have any experience with other switch types, the feel of reds as described by others appealed the most to me. Now I Have the keyboard, I must say I am very impressed by it. The keys are extremely easy to press, the sound is perfect, not too loud, not too quiet. The weight of the keyboard really keeps it in place, it will NOT move unless you want it to. It feels amazing to type on, instantly made me feel faster. It definitely took some getting used to for gaming, but after some hours I absolutely love it.

So all in all I can definitely recommend this keyboard, but if you are in Europe keep in mind that its expensive to get delivered, and customs may screw you over.
nam nam
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden4672 Posts
November 09 2011 14:24 GMT
#802
I think custom mostly screw with you if you order outside of the eu, at least that's how it works here in Sweden and some other countries I know. If you make the purshase within eu and pay the vat from the country you are ordering from you are all good.
DJFaqU
Profile Joined May 2011
466 Posts
November 09 2011 15:47 GMT
#803
On November 09 2011 23:24 nam nam wrote:
I think custom mostly screw with you if you order outside of the eu, at least that's how it works here in Sweden and some other countries I know. If you make the purshase within eu and pay the vat from the country you are ordering from you are all good.


That is correct.
If you order from outside of the EU you pay import turnover tax which is probably as high as the VAT in the country you live in (at least in mine, it is, so no guarantee here).
There might also be some kind of customs fee above a certain value, but that's usually very low and thus negligible.
Kelberot
Profile Joined July 2010
Brazil364 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-09 21:30:05
November 09 2011 21:27 GMT
#804
Alright TL, since geekhack is apparently not safe to use anymore (I dont know what happened there, I'm sure theyre ok but I'll give it some time), I'll ask this here.

I bought a noppoo choc mini (brown switches) couple months ago, it took forever to get here and I just found out my L key is having a weird problem where it will get stuck down there after I press it. What I mean by this is, when you press a key in any keyboard, the key pops right back up. Sometimes with my L key, after I lift my finger, the key will SLOWLY rise up again, so if I need to tap it again it will be spammed (e.g. this last "will" I typed, I actually had to delete a couple excess L's)

The keycap is fine, it's the switch that's messed up. The problem is that it's literally impossible for me to send it back or return because these don't sell here, so I had to import the keyboard from china, and my country's mail system is so slow that it would take me ages to get a simple key fixed.

I need to know if theres ANYTHING I can do myself to get this fixed. I'm not sure how to open keyboard, but I feel like if I could open it and sand down the switch (this must sound retarded) it will work well. The switch itself gets stuck on its way up once the finger is released, and theres no dust or anything in there as far as I can tell... even though I don't remind having this issue when I started using the keyboard, however maybe I just didnt notice it (I can live with this, its just annoying)

tldr; (brown) switch gets stuck when finger is released, dont know how to open keyboard, need sugestions on how to fix it

Any tips/ideas?
Hashbaz
Profile Joined July 2010
United States340 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-10 04:44:20
November 10 2011 04:42 GMT
#805
On November 10 2011 06:27 Kelberot wrote:
tldr; (brown) switch gets stuck when finger is released, dont know how to open keyboard, need sugestions on how to fix it

Any tips/ideas?


Geekhack's issue was cleared up days ago, but Google has just now taken it off the malware list.

Sounds like maybe your sticky switch could use some cleaning/lubrication? You might try some DeoxIT spray. You can do this without taking apart the switch (which for a Choc Mini involves desoldering). There has been a lot of talk about this lately on geekhack:

http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?23314-Lubing-Switches
http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?22656-Gallons-of-Spooge-The-Official-Ripster-Lubricant-Experiment-Thread

Dunno though, really. If I were you I'd go make a thread there and ask the experts.
ESPORTS prevails
mahnini
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States6862 Posts
November 10 2011 17:10 GMT
#806
just received my rosewill mx blues. pretty nice keyboard though i expected it to be a lot heftier from reviews, though that doesn't really matter that much. the clicky sound is great and pretty light to type on.

i noticed before that some people were saying there are double tap problems with blue switches, i've had this happen a couple of times but i think it is more that you are used to not retracting your finger all the way before hitting a new key and the repeat rate is pretty fast (especially if you set it to highest for sc2). if you've been having double tap problems you might want to turn down the repeat threshold or learn to retract your fingers faster. :D
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Hashbaz
Profile Joined July 2010
United States340 Posts
November 10 2011 20:00 GMT
#807
On November 11 2011 02:10 mahnini wrote:
i noticed before that some people were saying there are double tap problems with blue switches, i've had this happen a couple of times but i think it is more that you are used to not retracting your finger all the way before hitting a new key and the repeat rate is pretty fast (especially if you set it to highest for sc2). if you've been having double tap problems you might want to turn down the repeat threshold or learn to retract your fingers faster. :D


My understanding is that if you're retracting your fingers all the way then you're not double tapping -- you're just typing really fast.
ESPORTS prevails
mahnini
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States6862 Posts
November 10 2011 20:23 GMT
#808
On November 11 2011 05:00 Hashbaz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2011 02:10 mahnini wrote:
i noticed before that some people were saying there are double tap problems with blue switches, i've had this happen a couple of times but i think it is more that you are used to not retracting your finger all the way before hitting a new key and the repeat rate is pretty fast (especially if you set it to highest for sc2). if you've been having double tap problems you might want to turn down the repeat threshold or learn to retract your fingers faster. :D


My understanding is that if you're retracting your fingers all the way then you're not double tapping -- you're just typing really fast.

sorry i shouldve been more clear i was talking double tapping when you didnt mean to
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Boblhead
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2577 Posts
November 10 2011 20:35 GMT
#809
RK-9000RE are $99 for a limited time, this would be the chance to get a solid board for under $100.


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823201044&Tpk=rk-9000re
Foxi
Profile Joined September 2011
Finland5 Posts
November 10 2011 21:54 GMT
#810
I'm thinking to buy new keyboard and I must admit that I have no clue what I should get. Was thinking something by Roccat or something from das maybe?,Suggestions? any good experience from something particular? please share

My last keyboard was old keytronic from golden '80s and now im running with some cheap 10 euro logitech that doesnt really support anything and seems to have mind of it's own. :/
renaissanceMAN
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1840 Posts
November 10 2011 22:04 GMT
#811
On November 11 2011 06:54 Foxi wrote:
I'm thinking to buy new keyboard and I must admit that I have no clue what I should get. Was thinking something by Roccat or something from das maybe?,Suggestions? any good experience from something particular? please share

My last keyboard was old keytronic from golden '80s and now im running with some cheap 10 euro logitech that doesnt really support anything and seems to have mind of it's own. :/


buy the das professional model s keyboard

you can decide whether to get the silent or not, depends on if you like a loud clicky keyboard
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excaliburPT
Profile Joined May 2011
Portugal17 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-10 22:35:39
November 10 2011 22:33 GMT
#812
Hey guys.
I was looking at the Cherry website and trying to figure out which Cherry Keyboards have mechanical switches. Is seems like only the G80-3000 (MX Blue) and the G80-1865 (MX Brown) have actual mechanical switches.
Can someone confirm this?

Thank you.

G80-3000 http://www.cherrycorp.com/english/keyboards/Office/G80_3000_MX/index.htm

G80-1865 http://www.cherrycorp.com/english/keyboards/Office/G80_1865_MX/index.htm
Boblhead
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2577 Posts
November 10 2011 23:28 GMT
#813
On November 11 2011 07:33 excaliburPT wrote:
Hey guys.
I was looking at the Cherry website and trying to figure out which Cherry Keyboards have mechanical switches. Is seems like only the G80-3000 (MX Blue) and the G80-1865 (MX Brown) have actual mechanical switches.
Can someone confirm this?

Thank you.

G80-3000 http://www.cherrycorp.com/english/keyboards/Office/G80_3000_MX/index.htm

G80-1865 http://www.cherrycorp.com/english/keyboards/Office/G80_1865_MX/index.htm


the website states they have those blue/brown switches, I don't think they would be lieing to people looking to buy....
excaliburPT
Profile Joined May 2011
Portugal17 Posts
November 11 2011 00:19 GMT
#814
So this seems to be the cheapest mechanical keyboard I can get.
http://www2.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=26623&agid=839
Right?
JaFF
Profile Joined July 2010
25 Posts
November 11 2011 00:47 GMT
#815
On November 11 2011 06:54 Foxi wrote:
I'm thinking to buy new keyboard and I must admit that I have no clue what I should get. Was thinking something by Roccat or something from das maybe?,Suggestions? any good experience from something particular? please share

My last keyboard was old keytronic from golden '80s and now im running with some cheap 10 euro logitech that doesnt really support anything and seems to have mind of it's own. :/

You can never go wrong with filco!
Boblhead
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2577 Posts
November 11 2011 02:41 GMT
#816
On November 11 2011 09:19 excaliburPT wrote:
So this seems to be the cheapest mechanical keyboard I can get.
http://www2.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=26623&agid=839
Right?

With international shipping its probably gonna be like 90+ USD still,

Adesso mkb is probably the cheapest, shitty quality for around 50-75 USD

green alps are around $30 usd, but are local buys only in Taiwan.
JaFF
Profile Joined July 2010
25 Posts
November 11 2011 03:14 GMT
#817
On November 11 2011 09:19 excaliburPT wrote:
So this seems to be the cheapest mechanical keyboard I can get.
http://www2.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=26623&agid=839
Right?

I'm gonna assume that this will be your first mechanical keyboard.

IMO mech keyboards are items you should not be place too much emphasis on the price. Mech keyboards in general are pricey due to their quality and durability. So i strongly recommend that you research on your ideal switch type and keyboard and just get it. As long as you're satisfied with your mech keyboard, it will definitely be a worthwhile investment and last you a very long time.

Even the cheapest mech keyboards are expensive when compared to standard rubber dome keyboards so you shouldn't be going for a 'lets give it a try and see how it goes' approach.
Blaec
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia4289 Posts
November 11 2011 05:58 GMT
#818
On November 11 2011 06:54 Foxi wrote:
I'm thinking to buy new keyboard and I must admit that I have no clue what I should get. Was thinking something by Roccat or something from das maybe?,Suggestions? any good experience from something particular? please share

My last keyboard was old keytronic from golden '80s and now im running with some cheap 10 euro logitech that doesnt really support anything and seems to have mind of it's own. :/


Going off the Geekhack guide you can get Filco's in Finland from Silentrig.com.

You won't be disappointed by a Filco, just have to choose your switch type and whether you want an numpad. But they are pretty expensive.
excaliburPT
Profile Joined May 2011
Portugal17 Posts
November 11 2011 19:45 GMT
#819
Thank you, Boblhead, JaFF and Blaec

You are right, this would be my first mechanical keyboard.
Basically, I just wanna use something that is not rubber-dome. I'm not too serious about gaming (I only really play SC2) and I'm not a huge typist either. Also, I tend not to inflict physical harm on keyboards

So i strongly recommend that you research on your ideal switch type and keyboard and just get it.

I'm not too worried about switch types because almost any switch is gonna be way better than rubber domes (right?). Plus, the G80-3000 uses MX Blues, which seem to be pretty "newbie-friendly". I tried a Black Widow at a store once (which also uses MX Blue, if I'm not mistaken) and I really liked the feel of the keys.

Also, I don't really care about gaming features like NKRO, Macro keys, etc. I never had any need for those in SC2.

I really think a keyboard is not worth 70+ € for the stuff that I do. Maybe that means I should just get a rubber-dome. I don't know. The G80-3000 seemed nice, is there any reason why you guys would advise against it?

Once again, thank you very much.
iYiYi
Profile Joined March 2011
United States489 Posts
November 12 2011 02:33 GMT
#820
Where can I buy different colored key caps that are compatible DAS Professional silent?
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