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cydial
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States750 Posts
May 02 2013 05:54 GMT
#5661
On May 01 2013 18:38 Doublemint wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2013 13:31 cydial wrote:
Changed around the keys of my noppo choc keyboard to my liking :D

http://imgur.com/LdK4D6i

Does any website sell space bars individually that would fit into a mini keyboard like noppo's?

EDIT : I'm also still looking around for an extra space bar that will fit on the right hand side.


looks very nice... I wonder if using camera hotkeys is quite a bit easier with this layout of the F buttons.


Upon playing my first game with them I kept confusing my F1 and F2 keys because of how different the spacing is. It's so much more comfortable to play the game now though overall because of how close my left and right hands are to one another.
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
May 03 2013 03:21 GMT
#5662
On May 02 2013 12:19 a176 wrote:
the shift keys stopped functioning on my artosis keyboard

so sad, had this keyboard for what feels like well over a decade

not sure what to do now. can anyone recommend a fullsize thats fairly quiet ?


Just my luck.

I found someone selling two mx duo sets, picked up both for 10 bucks. I'm set for the rest of my life.
starleague forever
Gaphunkyl
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia20 Posts
May 04 2013 00:09 GMT
#5663
just put an order in for my first mechanical :D going for the quick fire reds :D
any comments?
Australian players, where you at!?
IceBergZ
Profile Joined September 2012
Malaysia176 Posts
May 04 2013 06:08 GMT
#5664
On May 04 2013 09:09 Gaphunkyl wrote:
just put an order in for my first mechanical :D going for the quick fire reds :D
any comments?

good keyboard so far no problem with it.
Xorphene
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom492 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-05 03:30:14
May 05 2013 03:29 GMT
#5665
Am unsure why so many people are using blues/blacks for gaming given how fatiguing they are.

Browns for tactile, Reds for non-tactile.

I just changed from a Blackwidow (Blues) to an Osmium (Reds) for gaming - much more consistent play due to less fatigue.
T: Polt, Fantasy, Flash, Jjakji. P: HerO, Rain, Grubby, SoS. Z: Jaedong, Scarlett, Snute, Life. Casters: ToD, Apollo, MrBitter, Artosis, Day[9].
tymt
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden293 Posts
May 05 2013 04:45 GMT
#5666
On May 05 2013 12:29 Xorphene wrote:
Am unsure why so many people are using blues/blacks for gaming given how fatiguing they are.

Browns for tactile, Reds for non-tactile.

I just changed from a Blackwidow (Blues) to an Osmium (Reds) for gaming - much more consistent play due to less fatigue.

Could it be that not everyone has the exact same strength and stamina in their fingers as you do? Hm.
Xorphene
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom492 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-05 05:00:27
May 05 2013 04:53 GMT
#5667
On May 05 2013 13:45 tymt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2013 12:29 Xorphene wrote:
Am unsure why so many people are using blues/blacks for gaming given how fatiguing they are.

Browns for tactile, Reds for non-tactile.

I just changed from a Blackwidow (Blues) to an Osmium (Reds) for gaming - much more consistent play due to less fatigue.

Could it be that not everyone has the exact same strength and stamina in their fingers as you do? Hm.


Congratulations on completely missing my point.

It is a widely documented fact of professional typists that in terms of fatigue blues>blacks>browns>reds,
T: Polt, Fantasy, Flash, Jjakji. P: HerO, Rain, Grubby, SoS. Z: Jaedong, Scarlett, Snute, Life. Casters: ToD, Apollo, MrBitter, Artosis, Day[9].
phar
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1080 Posts
May 05 2013 05:04 GMT
#5668
You don't have to be snide about it man. People have varying amounts of finger strength, and game for varying amounts of time. Someone with significantly stronger fingers who doesn't game for hours on end has no trouble using blues.
Who after all is today speaking about the destruction of the Armenians?
Xorphene
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom492 Posts
May 05 2013 05:15 GMT
#5669
On May 05 2013 14:04 phar wrote:
You don't have to be snide about it man. People have varying amounts of finger strength, and game for varying amounts of time. Someone with significantly stronger fingers who doesn't game for hours on end has no trouble using blues.


The point is that certain switch types invoke more fatigue than others, and although individuals may fatigue at different rates it does still happen.

Accept the point of playtime, but given the keyboard types of a lot of pro's etc using blues, comparable fatigue between blues and browns/reds will be large, even factoring in finger/wrist strength.
T: Polt, Fantasy, Flash, Jjakji. P: HerO, Rain, Grubby, SoS. Z: Jaedong, Scarlett, Snute, Life. Casters: ToD, Apollo, MrBitter, Artosis, Day[9].
FinBenton
Profile Joined March 2011
Finland870 Posts
May 05 2013 05:21 GMT
#5670
Went from blacks to browns to blues, last two are almost equal in sence of how hard you need to press, blacks are way too heavy though.
phar
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1080 Posts
May 05 2013 06:42 GMT
#5671
On May 05 2013 14:15 Xorphene wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2013 14:04 phar wrote:
You don't have to be snide about it man. People have varying amounts of finger strength, and game for varying amounts of time. Someone with significantly stronger fingers who doesn't game for hours on end has no trouble using blues.


The point is that certain switch types invoke more fatigue than others, and although individuals may fatigue at different rates it does still happen.

Accept the point of playtime, but given the keyboard types of a lot of pro's etc using blues, comparable fatigue between blues and browns/reds will be large, even factoring in finger/wrist strength.

Yea that's fair. For an average non-pro user, it doesn't matter nearly as much.

Also given the propensity of RSI and other wrist injuries in SC2 pros, it's not like they have a great track record of healthy ergonomics. So they may just not be thinking about it.
Who after all is today speaking about the destruction of the Armenians?
dicedicerevolution
Profile Joined October 2009
United States245 Posts
May 05 2013 09:19 GMT
#5672
How about factoring in angle of depressing keys? Mice have already shown that Korean progamers tend to hold theirs in a fingertip/claw grip which allows them to press the buttons at a much more perpendicular angle, allowing more force. This results in a desire for a more firm but, quick actuating and secure clicking switch (omron). Most people not used to using a mouse like that find it very stiff. I don't see how a keyboard couldn't have a similar thing going on.

I'm under the impression that professional typists have different ideals for typing vs. professional gamers. You're typing more diverse keys in sequence as a typist so I'd assume you'd be pressing the keys as lightly as possible (enough so that the difference in actuation force between the switches is more acutely felt). These guys probably don't bottom out, ever. Compare that to gamers where bottom out isn't necessarily uncommon, and you're more likely to press a sequence of keys over and over rather than more unique combination of letters (even accounting for vowels, etc. gamers use more keys than typists, I believe).

Basically, taking stuff from a professional typists point of view and assuming that it crosses over more or less identical for gamers, who each have different requirements seems pretty presumptuous to me.
lethyl
Profile Joined March 2010
United States207 Posts
May 06 2013 22:38 GMT
#5673
Does anyone have any experience with this keyboard?. Thinking about getting it.
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dicedicerevolution
Profile Joined October 2009
United States245 Posts
May 06 2013 23:15 GMT
#5674
On May 07 2013 07:38 lethyl wrote:
Does anyone have any experience with this keyboard?. Thinking about getting it.


I DON'T have experience with that keyboard, but at a glance:
- It's white, so if you smoke or have an environment like that, it can get visibly discolored over time
- Filcos have a reputation for very high quality
- It's MX Blue switches, I'm assuming that's one of the reasons why you want it
Blaec
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia4289 Posts
May 07 2013 05:24 GMT
#5675
On May 07 2013 07:38 lethyl wrote:
Does anyone have any experience with this keyboard?. Thinking about getting it.


Filco TKL, totally solid. Downsides are cost, and it is a completely standard keyboard with no special features.

So if you don't mind spending a little more and just want a standard keyboard it is a great choice.
DERPDERP
Profile Joined October 2010
Kyrgyzstan189 Posts
May 07 2013 08:49 GMT
#5676
On May 07 2013 07:38 lethyl wrote:
Does anyone have any experience with this keyboard?. Thinking about getting it.


Got the same one with reds, bloody awesome. I wish I had found a white iso version Blues are nice but so fucking loud, fortunately I've got MX white board coming ^^)
8)
Nilrem
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3684 Posts
May 07 2013 08:53 GMT
#5677
Because of Blaec's post, I think I have decided to wait and go for the Corsair Vengeance K95. The more I learned about it, the more I fell in love with it. The ability to turn on and off the backlit keys individually is just amazing. It using red switches is a nice tough (I think blue would be too much for me). Although many seem to be disappointed that it does not come in different types of switches. It has usb passthrough (I think that is what it is called) and nice aluminum touch.

So although I was originally leaning toward getting a Das Professional keyboard, the K95 has won be over. For myself, the idea of backlit is pretty important to be hence my earlier choice of the blackwidow. But now, seeing has they have a better track record and the keyboard does look sexy, I am going to wait till available and go for it.

On side note, I have no idea what I am going to do with all those macro keys. I use a G110 which has twelve whereas the K95 has eighteen.

Out of curiosity, has anyone had bad experiences with the K90 (since I believe that is the earlier model)?
Meepo Haters gonna Hate. https://twitter.com/KazeNilrem (@KazeNilrem)
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-07 09:01:43
May 07 2013 09:00 GMT
#5678
You know there's the K70 which is already released and sells for $130. It's the same thing as the K95 minus the macro keys (and the colour of the backlight - white on k95, red or blue on k70). No point in paying $20 more for the K95 if you won't use the board's defining feature.
Nilrem
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3684 Posts
May 07 2013 09:28 GMT
#5679
On May 07 2013 18:00 skyR wrote:
You know there's the K70 which is already released and sells for $130. It's the same thing as the K95 minus the macro keys (and the colour of the backlight - white on k95, red or blue on k70). No point in paying $20 more for the K95 if you won't use the board's defining feature.


Yup, I did know about the K70. I stumbled upon it while looking up information on the K95. Although what you say is true with regards to paying and utilization of the Macros, that is not the case for me. What I was pertaining to was the sheer number of macro keys, not the use of them as a whole. I use macro keys on my current keyboard but I am still trying to figure out how I will utilize eighteen of them. As of now, I primarily use them during DotA 2 (for items and such) but I also play a lot of MMORPG's (anxiously awaiting the hopefully good Elder Scrolls Online) so they will be used.
Meepo Haters gonna Hate. https://twitter.com/KazeNilrem (@KazeNilrem)
MarlieChurphy
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States2065 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-07 11:05:38
May 07 2013 11:03 GMT
#5680
Random question: On my razer black widow I noticed on the right of the blue + that you plug in the key, there is a little tab or dot that sticks up maybe 0.1mm high. Does that do anything? Why is it there? Snigor on IRC said the browns didn't have it.

Here are pics that I found online from other kb, but they are on the left:

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