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Blaec
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia4289 Posts
May 07 2013 11:36 GMT
#5681
On May 07 2013 20:03 MarlieChurphy wrote:
Random question: On my razer black widow I noticed on the right of the blue + that you plug in the key, there is a little tab or dot that sticks up maybe 0.1mm high. Does that do anything? Why is it there? Snigor on IRC said the browns didn't have it.

Here are pics that I found online from other kb, but they are on the left:
+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]

[img]http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/4886/captureovo.png[/img
]


Interesting, it isn't there on my blacks or browns.

Maybe it is to do with the plastic manufacturing process of blue switches? The mould maybe needs that tab for some reason. I have no idea really.
DERPDERP
Profile Joined October 2010
Kyrgyzstan189 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-07 12:51:39
May 07 2013 12:46 GMT
#5682
On May 07 2013 20:36 Blaec wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2013 20:03 MarlieChurphy wrote:
Random question: On my razer black widow I noticed on the right of the blue + that you plug in the key, there is a little tab or dot that sticks up maybe 0.1mm high. Does that do anything? Why is it there? Snigor on IRC said the browns didn't have it.

Here are pics that I found online from other kb, but they are on the left:
+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]

[img]http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/4886/captureovo.png[/img
]


Interesting, it isn't there on my blacks or browns.

Maybe it is to do with the plastic manufacturing process of blue switches? The mould maybe needs that tab for some reason. I have no idea really.


I'm not 100% sure but I'd assume the ones with that dot are PCB mount cherry switches and without are plate mount.

Having pcb mounted switches and a plate makes them feel really sturdy
8)
MarlieChurphy
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States2063 Posts
May 08 2013 07:29 GMT
#5683
On May 07 2013 21:46 DERPDERP wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2013 20:36 Blaec wrote:
On May 07 2013 20:03 MarlieChurphy wrote:
Random question: On my razer black widow I noticed on the right of the blue + that you plug in the key, there is a little tab or dot that sticks up maybe 0.1mm high. Does that do anything? Why is it there? Snigor on IRC said the browns didn't have it.

Here are pics that I found online from other kb, but they are on the left:
+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]

[img]http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/4886/captureovo.png[/img
]


Interesting, it isn't there on my blacks or browns.

Maybe it is to do with the plastic manufacturing process of blue switches? The mould maybe needs that tab for some reason. I have no idea really.


I'm not 100% sure but I'd assume the ones with that dot are PCB mount cherry switches and without are plate mount.

Having pcb mounted switches and a plate makes them feel really sturdy


What exactly is a plate mounted pcb switch? or what does it do?

And it would be quite funny if this is really the only mechanical difference between blues and blacks; or whichever one is really similar to blues (I forget which one it is).
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Blaec
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia4289 Posts
May 08 2013 07:56 GMT
#5684
On May 08 2013 16:29 MarlieChurphy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2013 21:46 DERPDERP wrote:
On May 07 2013 20:36 Blaec wrote:
On May 07 2013 20:03 MarlieChurphy wrote:
Random question: On my razer black widow I noticed on the right of the blue + that you plug in the key, there is a little tab or dot that sticks up maybe 0.1mm high. Does that do anything? Why is it there? Snigor on IRC said the browns didn't have it.

Here are pics that I found online from other kb, but they are on the left:
+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]

[img]http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/4886/captureovo.png[/img
]


Interesting, it isn't there on my blacks or browns.

Maybe it is to do with the plastic manufacturing process of blue switches? The mould maybe needs that tab for some reason. I have no idea really.


I'm not 100% sure but I'd assume the ones with that dot are PCB mount cherry switches and without are plate mount.

Having pcb mounted switches and a plate makes them feel really sturdy


What exactly is a plate mounted pcb switch? or what does it do?

And it would be quite funny if this is really the only mechanical difference between blues and blacks; or whichever one is really similar to blues (I forget which one it is).


The majority of mechanical keyboards are built with a big metal plate inside. All the switches are mounted on this plate, and referred to as plate mounted.

Other keyboards like much of the Cherry series just mount the switches on the circuit board (Printed Circuit Board, PCB). Referred to as PCB mounted.

The plate makes the keyboard more rigid and durable, but PCB mounted switches can be changed relatively easily so you can have whatever switch type you want wherever on the keyboard.

I doubt the little tab has to do with PCB vs plate mount, why would they make two types of switch for it? But its not like I have a better explanation.
DERPDERP
Profile Joined October 2010
Kyrgyzstan189 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-08 08:07:17
May 08 2013 08:03 GMT
#5685
On May 08 2013 16:56 Blaec wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2013 16:29 MarlieChurphy wrote:
On May 07 2013 21:46 DERPDERP wrote:
On May 07 2013 20:36 Blaec wrote:
On May 07 2013 20:03 MarlieChurphy wrote:
Random question: On my razer black widow I noticed on the right of the blue + that you plug in the key, there is a little tab or dot that sticks up maybe 0.1mm high. Does that do anything? Why is it there? Snigor on IRC said the browns didn't have it.

Here are pics that I found online from other kb, but they are on the left:
+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]

[img]http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/4886/captureovo.png[/img
]


Interesting, it isn't there on my blacks or browns.

Maybe it is to do with the plastic manufacturing process of blue switches? The mould maybe needs that tab for some reason. I have no idea really.


I'm not 100% sure but I'd assume the ones with that dot are PCB mount cherry switches and without are plate mount.

Having pcb mounted switches and a plate makes them feel really sturdy


What exactly is a plate mounted pcb switch? or what does it do?

And it would be quite funny if this is really the only mechanical difference between blues and blacks; or whichever one is really similar to blues (I forget which one it is).


The majority of mechanical keyboards are built with a big metal plate inside. All the switches are mounted on this plate, and referred to as plate mounted.

Other keyboards like much of the Cherry series just mount the switches on the circuit board (Printed Circuit Board, PCB). Referred to as PCB mounted.

The plate makes the keyboard more rigid and durable, but PCB mounted switches can be changed relatively easily so you can have whatever switch type you want wherever on the keyboard.

I doubt the little tab has to do with PCB vs plate mount, why would they make two types of switch for it? But its not like I have a better explanation.


I do not work for cherry ask them, but I know for sure they make both pcb and plate mounted switches for each color. And by no means I know for sure the little tab has something to do with the plate-pcb mounted switches, it's just the only explanation I could come up with, apart from the most simple one: blues just are different.
8)
HwangjaeTerran
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Finland5967 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-08 08:27:55
May 08 2013 08:22 GMT
#5686
On May 08 2013 16:56 Blaec wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2013 16:29 MarlieChurphy wrote:
On May 07 2013 21:46 DERPDERP wrote:
On May 07 2013 20:36 Blaec wrote:
On May 07 2013 20:03 MarlieChurphy wrote:
Random question: On my razer black widow I noticed on the right of the blue + that you plug in the key, there is a little tab or dot that sticks up maybe 0.1mm high. Does that do anything? Why is it there? Snigor on IRC said the browns didn't have it.

Here are pics that I found online from other kb, but they are on the left:
+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]

[img]http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/4886/captureovo.png[/img
]


Interesting, it isn't there on my blacks or browns.

Maybe it is to do with the plastic manufacturing process of blue switches? The mould maybe needs that tab for some reason. I have no idea really.


I'm not 100% sure but I'd assume the ones with that dot are PCB mount cherry switches and without are plate mount.

Having pcb mounted switches and a plate makes them feel really sturdy


What exactly is a plate mounted pcb switch? or what does it do?

And it would be quite funny if this is really the only mechanical difference between blues and blacks; or whichever one is really similar to blues (I forget which one it is).


The majority of mechanical keyboards are built with a big metal plate inside. All the switches are mounted on this plate, and referred to as plate mounted.

Other keyboards like much of the Cherry series just mount the switches on the circuit board (Printed Circuit Board, PCB). Referred to as PCB mounted.

The plate makes the keyboard more rigid and durable, but PCB mounted switches can be changed relatively easily so you can have whatever switch type you want wherever on the keyboard.

I doubt the little tab has to do with PCB vs plate mount, why would they make two types of switch for it? But its not like I have a better explanation.


The switches are different, although I think the topside is identical in both types.
My blues have that bump and are plate mounted. My guess it's there to help install the switches in the right way.
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[S9] taeZaKi
Profile Joined May 2012
50 Posts
May 09 2013 02:22 GMT
#5687
I just found this on YT:


Why... why does no one else have the white shell yet? Not even announced, iirc.
mrgoochio
Profile Joined April 2009
United States557 Posts
May 09 2013 02:43 GMT
#5688
anyone know how long it takes for qtan keycaps to arrive after ordering? I'm having it delivered to california.

my WASD barebones just arrived today
[image loading]

just waiting on these caps! caaaaaant wait.... still no tracking # though..
[image loading]
chengysogood
matiK23
Profile Joined May 2011
United States963 Posts
May 09 2013 03:10 GMT
#5689
On May 09 2013 11:22 [S9] taeZaKi wrote:
I just found this on YT: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WabVNczb4WM

Why... why does no one else have the white shell yet? Not even announced, iirc.


He probably painted it? I know I will once I get mine.
Without a paddle up shit creek.
Sovano
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1503 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-09 04:22:18
May 09 2013 04:22 GMT
#5690
On May 09 2013 11:43 mrgoochio wrote:
anyone know how long it takes for qtan keycaps to arrive after ordering? I'm having it delivered to california.

Email him about it if its been more than a month. It took me about three weeks to get mines. He can't really do anything about it if its going through customs though.
mrgoochio
Profile Joined April 2009
United States557 Posts
May 09 2013 04:49 GMT
#5691
I was estimating it would take about a month, its only been a week now just wanted to see if anyone else had any experience with his caps. Did you receive a tracking # at all? I haven't received one yet just want to make sure everything goes smoothly
chengysogood
Sovano
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1503 Posts
May 09 2013 05:12 GMT
#5692
If I remember right, no. Honestly you shouldn't worry about it too much. It takes a while, but qtan is legit.
[S9] taeZaKi
Profile Joined May 2012
50 Posts
May 09 2013 06:45 GMT
#5693
I'll also vouch for qtan. Good stuff.
Son of Gnome
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States777 Posts
May 10 2013 01:49 GMT
#5694
Yeah i've been doing business with Qtan for years, good guy stuff just takes a while to arrive sometimes.
Whatever happens, happens
Bahamuth
Profile Joined September 2011
134 Posts
May 10 2013 13:18 GMT
#5695
Are there any other keyboards with the layout of the Noppoo Choc Mini? I'm looking for a cheap one (doesn't even have to be mechanical tbh).
Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
May 10 2013 16:47 GMT
#5696
You should really mention where you are from for that question. In the US, Noppoo Choc Mini directly from China through ebay is probably already the cheapest you can get. There are other Chinese brands with similar layouts, so look through qtan's ebay store. About keyboards that are not mechanical, I've seen only wireless with a roughly similar layout, not wired.

If it's EU and you don't really care about MX switch, the Cherry G84-4100 keyboards could be interesting for you. The "ML" switches on the G84 line are still mechanical and should feel like a cross between laptop keys and MX brown switches. The keys are also a reduced size compared to a normal keyboard, so that could be bad (or good). Price is as low as 45 EUR in Germany, higher on amazon.co.uk, and probably shit in the US.
"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
Bahamuth
Profile Joined September 2011
134 Posts
May 10 2013 20:03 GMT
#5697
Thanks. I'm form Europe., so I'll check out the Cherry G84-4100.
phar
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1080 Posts
May 11 2013 00:58 GMT
#5698
keycool 84 is another identical option, but it's going to be priced the same as a noppoo. Can't really recommend buying either of those outside of asia, price difference just isn't worth it.
Who after all is today speaking about the destruction of the Armenians?
awakenx
Profile Joined May 2011
United States341 Posts
May 12 2013 00:30 GMT
#5699
On May 09 2013 12:10 matiK23 wrote:

He probably painted it? I know I will once I get mine.

damn, i would paint mine but i have blues, so probably won't look as nice.
WorstMicroNA
dicedicerevolution
Profile Joined October 2009
United States245 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-12 01:03:32
May 12 2013 01:02 GMT
#5700
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