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JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
May 21 2012 21:54 GMT
#2781
On May 22 2012 06:51 Zushen wrote:
im about to go to microcenter in about 30 mins to get a new 2011 i7 and board, how do i prepare my system for it? (erase everything?)


If you're asking this question, I have to ask what you need an enthusiast rig for.
TheToast
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4808 Posts
May 21 2012 21:55 GMT
#2782
On May 22 2012 06:51 Zushen wrote:
im about to go to microcenter in about 30 mins to get a new 2011 i7 and board, how do i prepare my system for it? (erase everything?)


You should back up all your important data before doing anything. After installing the new hardware, doing a fresh install of Windows is highly reccommended.
I like the way the walls go out. Gives you an open feeling. Firefly's a good design. People don't appreciate the substance of things. Objects in space. People miss out on what's solid.
Zushen
Profile Joined June 2011
275 Posts
May 21 2012 21:58 GMT
#2783
oh i thought that you needed to use a program to wipe everything first. wasnt sure if it would boot with all AMD chipset drivers in the registry still
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-21 22:00:46
May 21 2012 22:00 GMT
#2784
On May 22 2012 06:58 Zushen wrote:
oh i thought that you needed to use a program to wipe everything first. wasnt sure if it would boot with all AMD chipset drivers in the registry still


You boot from windows bootable media, like a DVD or USB drive, to avoid that issue. That's why you do the fresh install.

From there, you can format during windows install.
Zushen
Profile Joined June 2011
275 Posts
May 21 2012 22:17 GMT
#2785
1 more question now that i have my proc is the xsplit full version worth it? Its the only stream app i know how to use and i like it a lot more than flme + dxtory
Jakatak_
Profile Joined October 2010
United States117 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-22 00:16:01
May 21 2012 23:49 GMT
#2786
OS: Windows 7 64 bit

Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

Processor: Intel Core i7 3770K processor 3.5 4 LGA 1155 BX80637I73770K

Power Supply: CORSAIR Professional Series 750w

RAM: Corsair ddr31 16gb

Graphics Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 560 1024 MB GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 2DVI/Mini-HDMI SLI Ready Graphics Card, 01G-P3-1460-KR

I checked bios and my cpu temperature is going up to 74 C and I think this is way too high. Does anybody know what would be causing this? All my fans are running fine. I've been able to stream using split, have multiple streams open and have starcraft 2 open and nothing goes wrong with my computer. I ordered some arctic silver 5 thermal paste. Is thermal paste what i'm missing?

edit: actually thermal paste was already on the cpu fan.
I am not the hotkey/reddit/help noobs jakatak.
TheToast
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4808 Posts
May 22 2012 00:40 GMT
#2787
On May 22 2012 06:58 Zushen wrote:
oh i thought that you needed to use a program to wipe everything first. wasnt sure if it would boot with all AMD chipset drivers in the registry still


Would probably still boot, but a fresh install is best. You don't want to run into issues with Windows looking for drivers or devices which are no longer there. A quick format is all that is needed, don't even need to wipe the drive.

On May 22 2012 07:17 Zushen wrote:
1 more question now that i have my proc is the xsplit full version worth it? Its the only stream app i know how to use and i like it a lot more than flme + dxtory


Without a license for Xsplit the best audio encoding you can use is speex, which is really crappy. Buying a license gives you access to ACC and a few other higher quality codecs, which if you plan on having actual stream viewers would probably be required.

On May 22 2012 08:49 Jakatak_ wrote:
OS: Windows 7 64 bit

Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

Processor: Intel Core i7 3770K processor 3.5 4 LGA 1155 BX80637I73770K

Power Supply: CORSAIR Professional Series 750w

RAM: Corsair ddr31 16gb

Graphics Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 560 1024 MB GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 2DVI/Mini-HDMI SLI Ready Graphics Card, 01G-P3-1460-KR

I checked bios and my cpu temperature is going up to 74 C and I think this is way too high. Does anybody know what would be causing this? All my fans are running fine. I've been able to stream using split, have multiple streams open and have starcraft 2 open and nothing goes wrong with my computer. I ordered some arctic silver 5 thermal paste. Is thermal paste what i'm missing?

edit: actually thermal paste was already on the cpu fan.


74C isn't bad at all, I'm assuming that's at full load? Honestly if you're not even breaking 80 I don't know that that's anything to worry about. Your profile says you're in the US, so as summer goes on and ambient room temperatures go up your system will have higher temps, that's just sort of the breaks of air cooling.
I like the way the walls go out. Gives you an open feeling. Firefly's a good design. People don't appreciate the substance of things. Objects in space. People miss out on what's solid.
Rollin
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia1552 Posts
May 22 2012 01:40 GMT
#2788
On May 22 2012 08:49 Jakatak_ wrote:
OS: Windows 7 64 bit

Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

Processor: Intel Core i7 3770K processor 3.5 4 LGA 1155 BX80637I73770K

Power Supply: CORSAIR Professional Series 750w

RAM: Corsair ddr31 16gb

Graphics Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 560 1024 MB GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 2DVI/Mini-HDMI SLI Ready Graphics Card, 01G-P3-1460-KR

I checked bios and my cpu temperature is going up to 74 C and I think this is way too high. Does anybody know what would be causing this? All my fans are running fine. I've been able to stream using split, have multiple streams open and have starcraft 2 open and nothing goes wrong with my computer. I ordered some arctic silver 5 thermal paste. Is thermal paste what i'm missing?

edit: actually thermal paste was already on the cpu fan.

If that's at stock I'd wager you mounted the heatsink poorly. Different types of thermal paste won't make a difference, but if you remount it it certainly could potentially make a world of difference.
Throw off those chains of reason, and your prison disappears. | Check your posting frequency timeline: http://www.teamliquid.net/mytlnet/post_activity_img.php
Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-22 02:16:34
May 22 2012 02:15 GMT
#2789
this might be a little different and not exact;y tech support but how do you get you taskbar to always be accesible even in game like a lot of pros do when they stream?

hopefully this is the right place to ask
"I'm not agreeing with a lot of Virus's decisions but they are working" Tasteless. Ipl4 Losers Bracket Virus 2-1 Maru
Rollin
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia1552 Posts
May 22 2012 02:42 GMT
#2790
On May 22 2012 11:15 karis wrote:
this might be a little different and not exact;y tech support but how do you get you taskbar to always be accesible even in game like a lot of pros do when they stream?

hopefully this is the right place to ask

Do you mean taskbar on top? If you use Windowed(fullscreen) mode you can access the taskbar on top of the game with the windows key (or ctrl + escape) and have other windows open on top of starcraft.
Throw off those chains of reason, and your prison disappears. | Check your posting frequency timeline: http://www.teamliquid.net/mytlnet/post_activity_img.php
Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
May 22 2012 03:07 GMT
#2791
On May 22 2012 11:42 Rollin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2012 11:15 karis wrote:
this might be a little different and not exact;y tech support but how do you get you taskbar to always be accesible even in game like a lot of pros do when they stream?

hopefully this is the right place to ask

Do you mean taskbar on top? If you use Windowed(fullscreen) mode you can access the taskbar on top of the game with the windows key (or ctrl + escape) and have other windows open on top of starcraft.


k thanks
"I'm not agreeing with a lot of Virus's decisions but they are working" Tasteless. Ipl4 Losers Bracket Virus 2-1 Maru
TheSwamp
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1497 Posts
May 22 2012 15:19 GMT
#2792
On May 13 2012 10:15 TheSwamp wrote:
Hi Guys! In game it says my suggested graphics is extreme and textures are ultra, but I only get ~ 30 fps in a 1v1 without max vs max armies.
My setup is as follows:
AMD Athlon(tm) II X4 640 Processor
8 GB of DDR3 ram
and A nvidia GTS 450

Is there something that could be wrong with my pc? Or am I just expecting too much from my setup?


Quoting so I can hopefully get an answer. Also, if you need anymore info let me know.
MLG: How is your Protoss? Idra: I make Blink Stalkers, so really, really good.
Wabbit
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1028 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-22 15:33:30
May 22 2012 15:32 GMT
#2793
On May 23 2012 00:19 TheSwamp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2012 10:15 TheSwamp wrote:
Hi Guys! In game it says my suggested graphics is extreme and textures are ultra, but I only get ~ 30 fps in a 1v1 without max vs max armies.
My setup is as follows:
AMD Athlon(tm) II X4 640 Processor
8 GB of DDR3 ram
and A nvidia GTS 450

Is there something that could be wrong with my pc? Or am I just expecting too much from my setup?


Quoting so I can hopefully get an answer. Also, if you need anymore info let me know.


Nothing is wrong with the PC. It is, in fact, performing as expected. The "suggested" settings are not a very good suggestion at all, because your CPU is somewhere on the lower~middle end for SC2.

Your graphics card is fine - SC2 puts a very light load on the graphics card, even at 1920x1080.

You can play with medium ~ high GPU settings (such as shaders and textures), but turn down all of your CPU settings such as Physics. You should be able to see which are CPU settings - when you hover your mouse over something, there's a tooltip that describes the setting.

That should increase your FPS a lot.
The answers to most of your Tech Support questions are in the OP. That's why you're not getting a reply. It's been answered before. Read the OP.
TheToast
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4808 Posts
May 22 2012 15:35 GMT
#2794
On May 23 2012 00:19 TheSwamp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2012 10:15 TheSwamp wrote:
Hi Guys! In game it says my suggested graphics is extreme and textures are ultra, but I only get ~ 30 fps in a 1v1 without max vs max armies.
My setup is as follows:
AMD Athlon(tm) II X4 640 Processor
8 GB of DDR3 ram
and A nvidia GTS 450

Is there something that could be wrong with my pc? Or am I just expecting too much from my setup?


Quoting so I can hopefully get an answer. Also, if you need anymore info let me know.


The problem with your PC is the shitty processor. Welcome to the club. We have online meetings every Friday, but everyone always misses them because it takes too long for our PCs to load.

But seriously, your CPU is over two years old. Despite being clocked at 3Ghz, the performance of the entire Phenom II line is pretty far behind an i5 or comparable intel processor, and SC2 can only utilize two cores of a CPU so the fact that it's a quad core doesn't necessarily mean anything.
I like the way the walls go out. Gives you an open feeling. Firefly's a good design. People don't appreciate the substance of things. Objects in space. People miss out on what's solid.
TheSwamp
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1497 Posts
May 22 2012 15:39 GMT
#2795
Thanks a lot guys!
MLG: How is your Protoss? Idra: I make Blink Stalkers, so really, really good.
Zushen
Profile Joined June 2011
275 Posts
May 22 2012 16:43 GMT
#2796
http://imgur.com/a/l8znG this is the open box motherboard i got from newegg, is this normal or should i rma?!
TheToast
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4808 Posts
May 22 2012 16:53 GMT
#2797
On May 23 2012 01:43 Zushen wrote:
http://imgur.com/a/l8znG this is the open box motherboard i got from newegg, is this normal or should i rma?!


It's probably is okay, it's possible that the 2011 socket just doesn't require pins in those locations (guessing). Though other pictures of the 2011 socket I've found aren't missing those pins so I'm not entirely sure. If it's not okay, it's unlikely that it could damage the CPU.

But this is why everyone in this thread has been telling you all along to buy brand new hardware, not used/returned/open box stuff. You have continually ignored us about that for some reason.
I like the way the walls go out. Gives you an open feeling. Firefly's a good design. People don't appreciate the substance of things. Objects in space. People miss out on what's solid.
Shield
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4824 Posts
May 22 2012 18:15 GMT
#2798
On May 23 2012 00:35 TheToast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2012 00:19 TheSwamp wrote:
On May 13 2012 10:15 TheSwamp wrote:
Hi Guys! In game it says my suggested graphics is extreme and textures are ultra, but I only get ~ 30 fps in a 1v1 without max vs max armies.
My setup is as follows:
AMD Athlon(tm) II X4 640 Processor
8 GB of DDR3 ram
and A nvidia GTS 450

Is there something that could be wrong with my pc? Or am I just expecting too much from my setup?


Quoting so I can hopefully get an answer. Also, if you need anymore info let me know.


The problem with your PC is the shitty processor. Welcome to the club. We have online meetings every Friday, but everyone always misses them because it takes too long for our PCs to load.

But seriously, your CPU is over two years old. Despite being clocked at 3Ghz, the performance of the entire Phenom II line is pretty far behind an i5 or comparable intel processor, and SC2 can only utilize two cores of a CPU so the fact that it's a quad core doesn't necessarily mean anything.


How do you know Sc2 supports only 2 cores? Proof please.
TheToast
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4808 Posts
May 22 2012 18:25 GMT
#2799
On May 23 2012 03:15 darkness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2012 00:35 TheToast wrote:
On May 23 2012 00:19 TheSwamp wrote:
On May 13 2012 10:15 TheSwamp wrote:
Hi Guys! In game it says my suggested graphics is extreme and textures are ultra, but I only get ~ 30 fps in a 1v1 without max vs max armies.
My setup is as follows:
AMD Athlon(tm) II X4 640 Processor
8 GB of DDR3 ram
and A nvidia GTS 450

Is there something that could be wrong with my pc? Or am I just expecting too much from my setup?


Quoting so I can hopefully get an answer. Also, if you need anymore info let me know.


The problem with your PC is the shitty processor. Welcome to the club. We have online meetings every Friday, but everyone always misses them because it takes too long for our PCs to load.

But seriously, your CPU is over two years old. Despite being clocked at 3Ghz, the performance of the entire Phenom II line is pretty far behind an i5 or comparable intel processor, and SC2 can only utilize two cores of a CPU so the fact that it's a quad core doesn't necessarily mean anything.


How do you know Sc2 supports only 2 cores? Proof please.


SkyR told me. That counts as evidence around here.

Besides that, a quick google will show up a number of tech articles about it:

http://www.legionhardware.com/articles_pages/starcraft_ii_wings_of_liberty_beta_performance,7.html
http://www.techspot.com/review/305-starcraft2-performance/page13.html
etc., etc.
I like the way the walls go out. Gives you an open feeling. Firefly's a good design. People don't appreciate the substance of things. Objects in space. People miss out on what's solid.
Zushen
Profile Joined June 2011
275 Posts
May 22 2012 18:25 GMT
#2800
starcraft 2 only supporting 2 cores is well known heres proof from a blizzard support agent http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/1074088265
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