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CaptainFwiffo
United States576 Posts
On October 20 2010 03:03 semantics wrote: I like pie. Did a keyboard run over your dog? Why is it so important for you that everyone agrees with you about this particular subject? Is it that impossible for you to believe that keyboard preference is subjective? | ||
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semantics
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Aim Here
Scotland672 Posts
On October 20 2010 04:02 semantics wrote: you do know exactly what you said could be turned on yourself why must you get everyone to believe that mech keyboards are a god send. Did you're keyboard save your life against a bear attack or something? I wouldn't be surprised if there are verifiable reports of people using an IBM model M to fend off a wild animal attack... | ||
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CaptainFwiffo
United States576 Posts
Meanwhile you've been accusing people of having their head up their ass just because they prefer using a different kind of keyboard from you. Have I ever called you an idiot for preferring a membrane keyboard? | ||
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semantics
10040 Posts
On October 20 2010 04:15 CaptainFwiffo wrote: If you actually look at what I've written, I've never said anything of the kind. In fact, I've repeatedly said that a keyboard or mouse or anything else won't make you a better gamer by itself, but that there are many reasons why they're still a good investment (durability, comfort, longevity, etc.). Mostly I've been answering questions. Meanwhile you've been accusing people of having their head up their ass just because they prefer using a different kind of keyboard from you. Have I ever called you an idiot for preferring a membrane keyboard? except you been inflating durability comfort and longevity. Mechanical keyboards can withstand more key presses this is true. But they are also weak to crumbs dust and hair more so then normal cheap ones. So unless you take good care of them they don't last. If you are going to take good care of the keyboard even a cheap dome one will last a very very long time. Comfort is completely opinion based mechanical switches benefit strictly depending to how you time if you type with your finger where the finger print would be or if you type straight down with your nails. Also you may not be the one that tout it will do you better in a game or anything but that is the implied notion that people keep giving out esp in the fruitdealer thread. | ||
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CaptainFwiffo
United States576 Posts
But they are also weak to crumbs dust and hair more so then normal cheap ones. I think the number of old mechanical keyboards still in service after pretty extreme abuse would disagree with you. Remember that one of the primary markets for mechanical keyboards these days are industrial applications, point of sale systems, etc. where keyboards endure a lot of abuse. But again, why do you feel the need to call people names or accuse them of wasting money because they happen to disagree with you? | ||
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Archduke
United States119 Posts
On October 20 2010 01:18 semantics wrote: http://www.elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=filco_keyboards,majestouch_87key&pid=fkbn87mewek you just don't dig enough I know I didn't specify, but I don't want a white board. Also that board is out of stock currently. I suppose I could just buy blank replacement keys if I really wanted to, but I think I'll just go with the tactile click tenkeyless. Thanks again, TL. `Duke | ||
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Garnet
Vietnam9033 Posts
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Telcontar
United Kingdom16710 Posts
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Spoh
United States57 Posts
Hopefully it will help some of you out in making a more informed decision. | ||
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Neo21803
United States26 Posts
Some things that I've noticed immediately are: 1. It's somewhat easier to notice a typo on the Cherry keyboard than my Filco. This could be simply because it's a new keyboard. Sometimes the click gives my senses an "additional verification" that I might have hit a wrong key. 2. My WPM is on average about 5% less on the Filco. Again, this could and probably is simply because it's a new keyboard. (My wpm dropped from 105 to 100) 3. The Filco is WAY more comfortable. My Cherry keyboard has additional space on the bottom of the keyboard that I got used to. But once I got rid of it, it feels way more comfortable without it on the Filco. BUT, now that I think about it, you might want to invest in a wrist rest for ergonomics. I think there's serious potential for Carpal Tunnel without it. 4. Obviously the brown switches are WAY quieter than the blue ones. Definitely a plus. 5. Both keyboards are of exceptional quality, and I absolutely recommend them both. I do not own a Filco with Blue switches but I'm assuming, aside from the overall shape of the keyboard, the switches operate and sound very similar to my Cherry keyboard. Up to you. I think for writing papers, I will switch back to my Cherry. But for gaming, definitely using the Filco. | ||
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Kogut
United States147 Posts
![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/fZo14.jpg) That's my Otaku (with Cherry MX Blue switches) that FedEx just dropped off today courtesy of Brian and Elite Keyboards. This thing is a beast. By far the most durable feeling and looking keyboard that I have ever owned, and I've had a few in my 22 years. Typing is a dream, and the amount of force it takes to push the keys down is almost nothing. I'm bottoming out most of the keystrokes because of the finger habits of years of shoddy membrane keyboards. My fingers want to move on to the next key once they feel the click, but I'm still trained to bottom everything out. :| It's getting better and better as I type to people about how awesome this thing is, though. The clicking sound really is not very loud at all (probably a bit less than the click of my G9, honestly). I'm so happy that I got this thing, and I can't wait to get on the ladder later tonight and test it out in a game! I've tried to encounter the "double press" issue that people describe with blues, and I can make it happen, but it's just a matter of letting it reset (which you can feel and hear usually) before pressing the key again. It's actually been repeating the keystroke as if the key was held down when I try and test it out usually. I really can't see it being an issue in-game since you typically let the key rebound a bit anyways (and boy do these things snap back up!!) before pressing it again. Oh, and it came with the traditional Windows keys (with the circle in the middle) and a black escape key, but the replacements were in baggies packed away with the board. I swapped them out without even having one of those key-puller deals, and it took all of 2 minutes because I was so worried about hurting these (seemingly bulletproof) switches. Thank you so much to those of you who have contributed to threads like this, as the information has been invaluable in helping my decision process. | ||
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scottyyy
United Kingdom796 Posts
On October 21 2010 04:14 Kogut wrote: That's my Otaku (with Cherry MX Blue switches) that FedEx just dropped off today courtesy of Brian and Elite Keyboards. This thing is a beast. By far the most durable feeling and looking keyboard that I have ever owned, and I've had a few in my 22 years. Typing is a dream, and the amount of force it takes to push the keys down is almost nothing. I'm bottoming out most of the keystrokes because of the finger habits of years of shoddy membrane keyboards. My fingers want to move on to the next key once they feel the click, but I'm still trained to bottom everything out. :| It's getting better and better as I type to people about how awesome this thing is, though. The clicking sound really is not very loud at all (probably a bit less than the click of my G9, honestly). I'm so happy that I got this thing, and I can't wait to get on the ladder later tonight and test it out in a game! I've tried to encounter the "double press" issue that people describe with blues, and I can make it happen, but it's just a matter of letting it reset (which you can feel and hear usually) before pressing the key again. It's actually been repeating the keystroke as if the key was held down when I try and test it out usually. I really can't see it being an issue in-game since you typically let the key rebound a bit anyways (and boy do these things snap back up!!) before pressing it again. Oh, and it came with the traditional Windows keys (with the circle in the middle) and a black escape key, but the replacements were in baggies packed away with the board. I swapped them out without even having one of those key-puller deals, and it took all of 2 minutes because I was so worried about hurting these (seemingly bulletproof) switches. Thank you so much to those of you who have contributed to threads like this, as the information has been invaluable in helping my decision process. Thanks for this, very insightful. Just wondering, how exactly did you pop the keycaps off? I'm trying to think of a way to do it without damaging the keyboard. :p | ||
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OPSavioR
Sweden1465 Posts
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CaptainFwiffo
United States576 Posts
You can listen to audio recordings of different keyboards with different switches here. Also read this mechanical keyboard primer if you have other questions. | ||
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Kogut
United States147 Posts
On October 21 2010 07:58 scottyyy wrote: + Show Spoiler + On October 21 2010 04:14 Kogut wrote: That's my Otaku (with Cherry MX Blue switches) that FedEx just dropped off today courtesy of Brian and Elite Keyboards. This thing is a beast. By far the most durable feeling and looking keyboard that I have ever owned, and I've had a few in my 22 years. Typing is a dream, and the amount of force it takes to push the keys down is almost nothing. I'm bottoming out most of the keystrokes because of the finger habits of years of shoddy membrane keyboards. My fingers want to move on to the next key once they feel the click, but I'm still trained to bottom everything out. :| It's getting better and better as I type to people about how awesome this thing is, though. The clicking sound really is not very loud at all (probably a bit less than the click of my G9, honestly). I'm so happy that I got this thing, and I can't wait to get on the ladder later tonight and test it out in a game! I've tried to encounter the "double press" issue that people describe with blues, and I can make it happen, but it's just a matter of letting it reset (which you can feel and hear usually) before pressing the key again. It's actually been repeating the keystroke as if the key was held down when I try and test it out usually. I really can't see it being an issue in-game since you typically let the key rebound a bit anyways (and boy do these things snap back up!!) before pressing it again. Oh, and it came with the traditional Windows keys (with the circle in the middle) and a black escape key, but the replacements were in baggies packed away with the board. I swapped them out without even having one of those key-puller deals, and it took all of 2 minutes because I was so worried about hurting these (seemingly bulletproof) switches. Thank you so much to those of you who have contributed to threads like this, as the information has been invaluable in helping my decision process. Thanks for this, very insightful. Just wondering, how exactly did you pop the keycaps off? I'm trying to think of a way to do it without damaging the keyboard. :p I literally just pulled them out by grabbing them. lol. They ease off a bit tough, but they go back on without much effort. I had to remove the cntrl keys to get access to the Windows keys (they came with the stock ones featuring the circle in the middle, but that's simply because I don't have small fingers. I'm sure if I sought out a female in the house, it could've been easily done. Once you see that it's really just a + shape for the top of the switch and a corresponding + cut out of the key, you realize that you really can't hurt it too much. If the WASD keys were available unprinted for the Majestouch boards, I would've gone with those and had the removal tool. I almost bought just the removal tool to have one, but I don't see myself actually using one much in the future. I do LOVE the red escape key on the solid black board. | ||
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scottyyy
United Kingdom796 Posts
Now I'm trying to convince myself to just buy a brand new Filco instead of being a cheap bastard and looking for a used one. Does the red esc key come with the keyboard by default or do you have to buy that? Same question about the blue WASD keys if you know about that. Cheers | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
On October 21 2010 09:01 scottyyy wrote: Thanks dude. Now I'm trying to convince myself to just buy a brand new Filco instead of being a cheap bastard and looking for a used one. Does the red esc key come with the keyboard by default or do you have to buy that? Same question about the blue WASD keys if you know about that. Cheers Red esc key is included with all the majestouch keyboards. You have to buy the blue wasd keys separately. | ||
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-Simplicity-
United States83 Posts
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scottyyy
United Kingdom796 Posts
On October 21 2010 09:24 -Simplicity- wrote: Oh and that leads to my second question. Is there anyway to bind the function keys on a standard keyboard to volume up/down like the media keys on say the 6GV2? Yeah, you can use this: http://www.autohotkey.com/ http://www.instructables.com/id/Keyboard-Media-Controls-for-Windows-with-AutoHotKe/ Regarding black vs brown switches - it depends how much force you like to use when pressing a key down. Black switches require a lot more force to press, so most people's fingers get tired when typing for a long period of time with black switches. That's a generalization but one I hear a lot. | ||
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