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On July 27 2011 14:21 spaZzNx-` wrote:
Hey:D
This is my current build:
CPU: Core i5-2500
GPU: XFX Radeon 6850
Mobo: Gigabyte GA-P61-S3-B3
RAM: Kingston 4GB DDR3 1333 x 2
HDD: Seagate 1TB SATA3
Case: Cooler Master Silencio 550
PSU: Corsair CX500 V2
DVD: LG Dvd drive
that costs ~6000HKD/760USD
However the leaves me with very little room for a monitor when I include a OS, so I want to decrease to cost of my build by around 100-150USD. If so, what parts should I change? I've been thinking of getting a 6790 gfx card, what sort of performance will that give when playing SC2?
Thanks :3
You will probably see an i5 2400 as a recommendation, only thing I can spot that is obvious.You may also lower the hard drive to 500 GB if you are not serious into Fraps or anything like that, it should be sufficient.
+ Show Spoiler +Not to suggest anything here but I pirated Windows 7.
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If the build is mostly for gaming, downgrade the i5-2500 to a i3-2100. Or in the least, step down to i5-2400. Also, get a CX430 V2 rather than the CX500 V2. Use a cheaper case if you don't mind a little extra noise (nothing in the build should be particularly way too loud to begin with).
About the Silencio (really a step down from a Fractal Design Define R3 anyway):
http://www.silentpcreview.com/article1210-page8.html
HD 6790 may be okay depending on the price. It should do very well in SC2 at high settings or below, or maybe on ultra at smaller than 1080p resolutions. But if you can find any GTX 460 version for the same price, get that instead.
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On July 27 2011 14:20 epikAnglory wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2011 14:16 skyR wrote:
There is no exact guide for overclocking because there are dozens of motherboards, dozens of BIOS versions, and every piece of silicon is different so overclocking capabilities won't be the same.
It is (near) impossible to start a fire or blowing up the computer by overclocking. The computer would just shut down and reboot itself or blue screen and reboot itself with default settings if the setting that was set is not possible or unstable.
A 4.2GHz overclock with a 2500k is a measly 500MHz increase. You can easily achieve this by just increasing the multiplier to 42 and leaving the rest of the settings on auto.
Nothing happens if you forget to plug in a wire. The computer will simply not start or give a display if you forgot a connector. Would you suggest a first-time paranoid OCer like me to use a software that comes with the motherboard or just experiment around? Do I need to set the vCore with 4.2 ghz? What about 4 gHz? (Biostar P67 Motherboard)Thanks for the fire thing, it really calms me down, I thought your computer just herpa derps stands there and starts smoking when you do something wrong lol. Why do some people making OCing sound easy with confusing BIOs versions and having to check your motherboard and stuff?
It is never recommended to do overclocking with software.
Anything below 4.4GHz is achievable with the stock voltages (leave on auto) on most 2500k processors so no, there is no need to change anything.
I'm not sure what you mean by people making it sound easy with confusing BIOS versions and having to check motherboard stuff. Newer BIOS versions could have changed some settings or added new settings. With every overclock, you need to ensure that it passes a prime95 or another stress-test for a few hours and monitor it to ensure that it's at reasonable load level temperatures and voltages.
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On July 27 2011 14:32 skyR wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2011 14:20 epikAnglory wrote:On July 27 2011 14:16 skyR wrote:
There is no exact guide for overclocking because there are dozens of motherboards, dozens of BIOS versions, and every piece of silicon is different so overclocking capabilities won't be the same.
It is (near) impossible to start a fire or blowing up the computer by overclocking. The computer would just shut down and reboot itself or blue screen and reboot itself with default settings if the setting that was set is not possible or unstable.
A 4.2GHz overclock with a 2500k is a measly 500MHz increase. You can easily achieve this by just increasing the multiplier to 42 and leaving the rest of the settings on auto.
Nothing happens if you forget to plug in a wire. The computer will simply not start or give a display if you forgot a connector. Would you suggest a first-time paranoid OCer like me to use a software that comes with the motherboard or just experiment around? Do I need to set the vCore with 4.2 ghz? What about 4 gHz? (Biostar P67 Motherboard)Thanks for the fire thing, it really calms me down, I thought your computer just herpa derps stands there and starts smoking when you do something wrong lol. Why do some people making OCing sound easy with confusing BIOs versions and having to check your motherboard and stuff? It is never recommended to do overclocking with software. Anything below 4.4GHz is achievable with the stock voltages (leave on auto) on most 2500k processors so no, there is no need to change anything. I'm not sure what you mean by people making it sound easy with confusing BIOS versions and having to check motherboard stuff. Newer BIOS versions could have changed some settings or added new settings. With every overclock, you need to ensure that it passes a prime95 or another stress-test for a few hours and monitor it to ensure that it's at reasonable load level temperatures and voltages.
Ok thanks, I just find it very confusing while some users on TeamLiquid go like OCing is so easy even a baby can do it as long as it is under 4.5 gHz or something. Knowing I do not have to change the vCore is a huge help to me, so setting the multiplier to 42 is all I need.
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Overclocking on the newer processors which is done with a multiplier increase is easy because you just change 37 to 42.
Overclocking on the older processors are a bit more complicated because it's done with a base clock. It's easy since many of us have done tons of overclocking.
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I want to get a computer for Diablo III and am wondering about the compatibility of this build. I've never built my own rig, and I'm anxious about handling my CPU, applying the HSF, and overclocking if I don't fuck up the assembly.
I want to moderately overclock after installing and testing the system.
No upgrade cycle, one time purchase with maintenance only
Distributor = All purchased from Newegg
Budget = Less than a $1,000
Resolution = DVI display @ 1280 x 1024 60 Hz
Programs = Blizzard games, Itunes, Writing/Websurfing/Stream spectating
Case = Antec Three Illusion Case
Motherboard = MSI 870-G45 Motherboard
CD/DVD Drive = LG CD/DVD Drive
SSD = Crucial 64G Sata III SSD
Data Drive = SAMSUNG Spinpoint 1TB Data Drive
OS = Windows 7 Home 64
Memory = Ripjaws 4GB DDR3 1333 Memory
PSU = Corsair 650TX 650W PSU
CPU = AMD Phenom II X4 955 CPU
GPU = MSI Cyclone PE 6850 GPU
HSF = Cooler Master Hyper N HSF
Thermal Grease = Artic Silver 5 (because this is my first build and I don't want to spread paste)
I wanted to go with a HSF with pre-applied Thermal paste to save me the anxiety of that step. The Artic Cooler Freezer 13 (HSF w/ Pre-Applied Paste) seems like an easy route out of that problem, but I don't want to sacrifice performance on this cheaper rig.
The SDD, and thermal paste are preferences. I'll be buying the parts in about 2-3 months. Any suggestions?
Thanks again for the awesome support thread!
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Thanks for such a quick response! I love TL 
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Thanks for the immediate response skyR. I'll rethink my build and probably go with an Intel CPU and Nvidia GPU.
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On July 27 2011 15:55 Alabasern wrote:
Thanks for the immediate response skyR. I'll rethink my build and probably go with an Intel CPU and Nvidia GPU.
In 2-3 months, depending on pricing and performance, an AMD Bulldozer quad core may be a good alternative.
CM Hyper N really isn't worth $46, unless maybe your case doesn't fit the normal 120mm fan tower coolers. Antec 300 Illusion also probably isn't worth $70 based on the layout, construction, and cooling, but it's okay if you like the looks and/or want blue LED fans.
skyR got the rest.
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Sounds good Myrimidon, I'll be patient for now. I'm really excited for the Ivy Bridge as well, but I want to play Diablo III at launch (which is this winter right?!)
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I'm still working on putting a build together, I'm looking into getting an SSD. I want a rather small SSD just to put Windows on so I can just boot up fast, How big is an install of windows 7 professional 64bit? would it be worth it to install SC2 on it to make it load faster?
Basically I want to know what is the smallest SSD I can get to boot windows 7 professional 64bit... and maybe sc2
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On July 27 2011 16:13 Alabasern wrote:
Sounds good Myrimidon, I'll be patient for now. I'm really excited for the Ivy Bridge as well, but I want to play Diablo III at launch (which is this winter right?!)
Diablo III beta should start soon and Blizzard has stated that they want to ship the game before the end of the year. AMD's Bulldozer is expected for September 16th. Intel's Ivybridge won't be out until March / April of 2012.
On July 27 2011 18:41 Gattaca.usa wrote:
I'm still working on putting a build together, I'm looking into getting an SSD. I want a rather small SSD just to put Windows on so I can just boot up fast, How big is an install of windows 7 professional 64bit? would it be worth it to install SC2 on it to make it load faster?
Basically I want to know what is the smallest SSD I can get to boot windows 7 professional 64bit... and maybe sc2
Windows 7 is ~17gb and Starcraft II is ~10gb so you're looking at a 40gb SSD.
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On July 27 2011 14:30 Myrmidon wrote:@spaZzNx-` If the build is mostly for gaming, downgrade the i5-2500 to a i3-2100. Or in the least, step down to i5-2400. Also, get a CX430 V2 rather than the CX500 V2. Use a cheaper case if you don't mind a little extra noise (nothing in the build should be particularly way too loud to begin with). About the Silencio (really a step down from a Fractal Design Define R3 anyway): http://www.silentpcreview.com/article1210-page8.htmlHD 6790 may be okay depending on the price. It should do very well in SC2 at high settings or below, or maybe on ultra at smaller than 1080p resolutions. But if you can find any GTX 460 version for the same price, get that instead.
Yes I am going to be using this mostly for gaming. For gaming, the i3 2100 should be sufficient for any games in the foreseeable future right? Also, is a 420W PSU sufficient for my build?
Thanks
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Yes, the i3 2100 would be sufficient for gaming since very few games take advantage of quad cores and even with those games, the i3 2100 won't be that far behind to make it unplayable.
Yes, the 430 variant of the Corsair CX V2 is enough. The core i5 2500k and Radeon HD6850 use a combined total of sub 200w under load.
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On July 27 2011 20:29 skyR wrote:
Yes, the i3 2100 would be sufficient for gaming since very few games take advantage of quad cores and even with those games, the i3 2100 won't be that far behind to make it unplayable.
Yes, the 430 variant of the Corsair CX V2 is enough. The core i5 2500k and Radeon HD6850 use a combined total of sub 200w under load.
Oh Kay
Even though the i3 will be able to play games like SC2 (CPU Heavy), will it lag during big battles? For example maxed out vs. maxed out.
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