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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
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Soulmate
Japan138 Posts
i5 2500k http://www.topachat.com/pages/detail2_cat_est_micro_puis_rubrique_est_wpr_puis_ref_est_in10047452.html ASrock Z68 pro 3 http://www.topachat.com/pages/detail2_cat_est_micro_puis_rubrique_est_w_cm_1155_puis_ref_est_in10050913.html PNY GTX 560ti OC2 Kingstone HyperX 2x2go PC3-12800 http://www.topachat.com/pages/detail2_cat_est_micro_puis_rubrique_est_wme_ddr3_puis_ref_est_in10046986.html Western Digital caviar blue 500go http://www.topachat.com/pages/detail2_cat_est_micro_puis_rubrique_est_wdi_sata_puis_ref_est_in10046730.html Corsair CX 500W v2 http://www.topachat.com/pages/detail2_cat_est_micro_puis_rubrique_est_w_ali_puis_ref_est_in10051585.html Advance Turboost (cant find anything cheaper than this one tbh) http://www.topachat.com/pages/detail2_cat_est_micro_puis_rubrique_est_w_boi_sa_puis_ref_est_inm104.html So here is the config I posted a few days ago on this thread (I removed the dvd burner as it doesn't matter). Now I may have a good deal with a computer shop but they don't sell ASrock MB. They propose me a gigabyte one : Gigabyte GA-Z68AP-D3 http://www.topachat.com/pages/detail2_cat_est_micro_puis_rubrique_est_w_cm_1155_puis_ref_est_in10051794.html Or Gigabyte P67A-D3 (Rev. B3) http://www.topachat.com/pages/detail2_cat_est_micro_puis_rubrique_est_w_cm_1155_puis_ref_est_in10050366.html I remember reading a review about these cheap gigabytes cards who scared the shit out of me but as I can't find it again I would like to ask you about your opinion. (compared to the asrock ones). I can also go for an asus P8P67 LE (B3) but as the asrock looks good enough for cheaper... The second matter is the monitor : Samsung BX2231 Or Iiyama Prolite edition 2273HDS-B1 Their specs seem pretty identical as I don't care about having 2HDMI. Thanks in advance for the input ! | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
Both the Asrock P67 Pro3 and Z68 Pro3 are better options than the two Gigabyte boards. The ASUS P8P67 LE is the worse option. It has a gimped BIOS and has poorly implemented phases. | ||
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Wabbit
United States1028 Posts
On July 26 2011 20:51 Gattaca.usa wrote: Is the performance difference between the i5 2300 and the i5 2500 worth $25? I'm just wondering if there really is a difference and if it will hurt me in the long run. I don't plan on overclocking. I just want to be able to play SC2 1920x1200 on ultra and stream in 720p. Will an i5 2300 / HD6850 / 4GB Ram be enough? No, not for both *Ultra CPU settings* AND *720p stream*. To do that, you'll need a 2500k/2600k overclocked. Not sure how much, but I can tell you that for me with a 2500k @ 3.6GHz, I cannot both play smoothly on ultra CPU settings and stream at 1066x600 25fps @ 1Mbit I think (this was with FMLE). I had to lower the CPU settings to High or Medium I think. So to stream at close to 720p and above (while playing on High/Ultra) you'll need an OC sandy bridge. If QuickSync works with whatever streaming software you're using, then a Z68 mobo would help a lot also. | ||
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Soulmate
Japan138 Posts
I'll stay with my first choice for the CM : Asrock P67 pro 3 and take the iiyama instead of the samsung | ||
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Zepish
Canada160 Posts
Although you guys suggested that I get this power supply : XFX 450W PRO450W Core Edition Single Rail ATX 12V 34A 24PIN ATX Power Supply 80PLUS Bronze Are you sure it will work properly ?, Im pretty sure you were certain it was gonna work but I just want to make sure! Thank you! | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
Power supply recommendations made by the manufacturer is higher than what is necessary to account for low quality power supplies that don't provide advertised wattage. The XFX Core Edition Pro 450 provides 34a on the 12v rail which is the same amount for many 500w power supplies. The GTX 560 Ti uses uses roughly 13a under full load. | ||
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Zepish
Canada160 Posts
Alright it makes sense though, thanks, I was just freaking out a little seeing that  | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/40119-nvidia-geforce-gtx-560-ti-1gb-review-18.html http://www.anandtech.com/show/4135/nvidias-geforce-gtx-560-ti-upsetting-the-250-market/16 http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/graphics/display/geforce-gtx-560-ti_4.html#sect0 | ||
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Live4theLord
United States14 Posts
Budget: 800 - 1200 Uses: Listed in order by priority 1) Gaming - Play most games on high-ultra settings 2) Entertainment - I will be using this computer as all forms of my entertainment as far as T.V. and movies. 3) Streaming - within the next few months would like to start streaming SC2 games. Resolution - I have no clue when it comes to resolution. I would enjoy HD quality. If this is determined by the monitor by budget is $200-300 for a monitor. Upgrade Cycle - around 2 years Build Time - I plan on building this yesterday jk. I would like to be ordering parts next week. Overclocking - As I am unfamiliar with this I do not plan on overclocking unless there are some great advantages to this. OS - Yes I need a OS Parts - I am buying almost all parts online. Newegg, Ebay, Ect. Thanks | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
Core i5 2400 @ $195 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115074 EVGA GTX 560 Ti -AR @ $235 ($210 after mail in rebate) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130604 Asrock H61M U3S3 @ $75 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157236 GSkill Sniper 2x4GB 1600MHz @ $52 (with promo code EMCKCHJ29, ends 7/27) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231417 Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB @ $60 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185 XFX Core Edition Pro 450 @ $55 ($45 after mail in rebate) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207012 Coolermaster HAF 912 @ $55 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119233 DVD Burner @ $18 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136238 Windows 7 Home Premium x64 @ $100 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116986 You can see the benefits of overclocking in this article that compares various processors at various clock speeds: http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/core-i7-2600k-990x.html If you want to overclock, just replace the Core i5 2400, H61M U3S3 with the following: Core i5 2500k @ $220 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115072 Asrock P67 Pro3 @ $110 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157230 and add an aftermarket heatsink such as the Xigmatek Gaia for $30: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835233082 This would add $90 to your total, making it $935. You can also add in an SSD for faster load times such as the Intel 320 Series 80GB for $160: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820167049 | ||
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Wabbit
United States1028 Posts
On July 27 2011 05:46 Live4theLord wrote: + Show Spoiler + YO YO. you think i can get some help with this build! I can pay back your kindness with Bacon and Cookies!! Budget: 800 - 1200 Uses: Listed in order by priority 1) Gaming - Play most games on high-ultra settings 2) Entertainment - I will be using this computer as all forms of my entertainment as far as T.V. and movies. 3) Streaming - within the next few months would like to start streaming SC2 games. Resolution - I have no clue when it comes to resolution. I would enjoy HD quality. If this is determined by the monitor by budget is $200-300 for a monitor. Upgrade Cycle - around 2 years Build Time - I plan on building this yesterday jk. I would like to be ordering parts next week. Overclocking - As I am unfamiliar with this I do not plan on overclocking unless there are some great advantages to this. OS - Yes I need a OS Parts - I am buying almost all parts online. Newegg, Ebay, Ect. Thanks Go with skyR's build/advice and be aware that streaming SC2 is extremely CPU intensive (the 2 tasks of video encoding and playing SC2 simultaneously are very demanding). This means that the higher quality you want to stream, the more CPU power you will need. Estimates: - play @ medium CPU settings, stream somewhere around 480p = i5 2400 is ok - play @ high/ultra CPU settings and stream close to 720p or better = probably need an OC'd 2500k | ||
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Live4theLord
United States14 Posts
I have decided to go with the i5-2500k / asrock P67 pro3 / heatsink, for overclocking. It seems like its worth the extra money. A couple questions: -Are you sure 450W is enough for the PS? ( I dont mind spending the extra $20 just in case) -Does the SSD make a huge difference in-performance? If not im thinking its something i could add later on. - I decided to go with this case http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129091 Im pretty sure everything will fit but how can i make sure? | ||
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Dahlma
Sweden13 Posts
I`ve been thinking ALOT and building and im starting to get a little confused with what i`ve been coming up with. Im after a computer that will last for a while graphicwise but the first hint would be to run diablo3 and bf3 on MAX and i want a fast computer and stabil. i dont think my build is the worst but i would like u guys say a few words about it budget is about 1900$ I`ll buy my computer from www.inet.se Europe-sweden ( Im not sure about the graphic card. ) Links: MSI P67A-GD65 REV B3 http://www.inet.se/artikel/1901962/msi-p67a-gd65-rev-b3 1TB Western Digital Caviar Black http://www.inet.se/artikel/4303818/1tb-western-digital-caviar-black Intel SSD 510 120GB http://www.inet.se/artikel/4304293/intel-ssd-510-120gb Intel Core i7 2600K 3,4GHz http://www.inet.se/artikel/5309988/intel-core-i7-2600k-3-4ghz Corsair 8GB (2x4096MB) CL8 1600Mhz VENGEANCE http://www.inet.se/artikel/5315066/corsair-8gb-2x4096mb-cl8-1600mhz-vengeance Sparkle GeForce GTX 570 1280MB http://www.inet.se/artikel/5409079/sparkle-geforce-gtx-570-1280mb Corsair HX 750W 80+ http://www.inet.se/artikel/6900190/corsair-hx-750w-80- Fractal Design Define R3, Titanium http://www.inet.se/artikel/6900681/fractal-design-define-r3-titanium Thanks. | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
Yes, the XFX Core Edition 450 is enough with ample headroom. It provides 34a on the 12v rail, the rail that powers the majority of your components. A core i5 2500k uses roughly 5a and a GTX 560 Ti uses roughly 13a, both under full load. Rest of your components along with a GPU and CPU overclock add up to 10a maybe at most so you will never come close to 34a. Yes, the case is fine. It's just personal preference. Most modern cases will be adequate for a reasonable configuration such as this one. Yes, an SSD provides quite a noticeable difference in system responsiveness. You can add one right off the bat or add one later, the decision is up to you. @Dahlma It's an okay configuration. It doesn't make sense to spend a premium on a Caviar Black as a storage drive when a Caviar Green or Caviar Blue would do the task just as well. The Fractal Design R3 is a silent case so by selecting this case, I'm assuming you want a silent case. If that's the case than your plan to SLI makes little sense as this increases noise levels, power consumption, and temperatures. Since SLI is dependent on drivers, it's a very poor choice as an upgrade path since the performance gains can be anywhere between 0% and 100%. You want to add an aftermarket heatsink for overclocking. Having a core i7 2600k doesn't make much sense for an all gaming purpose configuration as games only take advantage of four cores at most. The hyperthreading of the core i7 2600k provides no benefits at all in gaming, it would only help in editing and other tasks that require the extra threads. Basically for gaming, the core i5 2500k costs less and provides the same performance in gaming: http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/core-i7-2600k-990x_9.html#sect2 1600MHz memory also provides little benefits over 1333MHz: http://www.anandtech.com/show/4503/sandy-bridge-memory-scaling-choosing-the-best-ddr3 , http://techreport.com/articles.x/20377 , http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/memory/display/sandy-bridge-ddr3.html | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
That 450W unit is pretty decent quality and will handle that setup even if you overclock everything to unreasonable levels. However, if you'd rather not deal with the mail-in rebate, the pretty-much-identical Antec High Current Gamer 520W is $53 after promo code: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371047 Both the XFX Core 450W and Antec HCG 520W are manufactured by the same company based on the same design with the same quality internals aside from the fan, just the 520W has slightly buffer components here and there to handle 520W. SSD is a lot faster in day-to-day tasks and real-world usage, but it's not like it'll boost your CPU or GPU or make anything other than storage access any faster. i.e. no benefit in games other than loading times, but keep in mind that you have to wait on others to load in multiplayer games anyway @Dahlma You don't need best-in-class 7200 rpm HDD random access performance on your storage drive, since you've got an SSD for holding everything that would benefit from the much-faster performance of an SSD. With that budget, 1600 MHz RAM makes sense I guess (standard 1333 MHz CAS9 is pretty much negligibly worse or the same), but don't pay extra for CAS8 or huge heatspreaders that interfere with CPU coolers. | ||
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Dahlma
Sweden13 Posts
I dident put the links in my post at start but i just fixed that. sorry my bad english though. i would really like if u wanted to check on my sellers site for optimal >.< soz dude for asking but im getting tired of my bad knowledge. and what do u think about the graphic card? (ill grab a i5. i thought the processor worked side by side by the graphic card and if one of em were worse then the other it wouldnt use the computers all performance) Thank you again. | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
So in general, the i5-2500k will be plenty fast for any game. If it's not, the i7-2600k won't be either. You didn't pick the wrong speed memory necessarily (higher won't be worse), it's just that it's needlessly expensive considering that the alternative is significantly cheaper for the same or very marginally worse real-world performance. Are you planning to run multiple graphics cards? (SLI) | ||
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Dahlma
Sweden13 Posts
and btw (buying the computer thru my company so its tax free) so ill be able to buy it for 3-400 less. thats a little why im overstimming myself perhaps. Or do you have graphic cards to recommend for this computer? | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
The GTX 570 is a high-end product and you're paying a huge premium for little gains over a GTX 560 Ti or Radeon HD6950. Again, if you don't care about money than it's an okay choice. | ||
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