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-Need some urgent help with computer I am buying today-
I have to choose between my previous computer I posted and this computer.
Case
Thermaltake V4 Black Edition Gaming Chassis Mid Tower Steel Computer Case with an extra 120mm FAN
Power supply
450 watt power supply made by Kingwin
CPU
AMD Phenom II 840 Quad(4) core 3.2GHZ
Motherboard
Biostar mATX 760L supports DDR3 ram
Memory
8GB of 1600 MHZ DDR3 ram premium ram made byG.SKILL Ripjaws Series
Hard drive
SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM
DVD readerwriter
-DVD burner (reads and writes DVD and CD) made by Sony wih dual layer support
Video card
ATI radeon HD5770 1GB
All I need to know is the following: How much is this worth parts/labor for a built system? How old are these parts?
Thanks so much!
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On July 26 2011 01:37 needcomputer wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
-Need some urgent help with computer I am buying today-
I have to choose between my previous computer I posted and this computer.
Case
Thermaltake V4 Black Edition Gaming Chassis Mid Tower Steel Computer Case with an extra 120mm FAN
Power supply
450 watt power supply made by Kingwin
CPU
AMD Phenom II 840 Quad(4) core 3.2GHZ
Motherboard
Biostar mATX 760L supports DDR3 ram
Memory
8GB of 1600 MHZ DDR3 ram premium ram made byG.SKILL Ripjaws Series
Hard drive
SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM
DVD readerwriter
-DVD burner (reads and writes DVD and CD) made by Sony wih dual layer support
Video card
ATI radeon HD5770 1GB
All I need to know is the following: How much is this worth parts/labor for a built system? How old are these parts?
Thanks so much!
I'd pay $300-350, if I had a use in mind for it. Otherwise, $250 if I was hoping to tweak it and flip it. My method for pricing older hardware (and that's a few years old), basically works like this: Pay roughly up to the cash value of current generation mobo+CPU+RAM that I could use to build a better system for what I would use it for.
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Do you mind giving me a value for someone that is buying it for personal uses and no reason to flip it? Basically how many years old/ out of date is this system? Is it worth 480$ (the guy selling it on craiglist)?
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On July 26 2011 02:55 needcomputer wrote:
Do you mind giving me a value for someone that is buying it for personal uses and no reason to flip it? Basically how many years old/ out of date is this system? Is it worth 480$ (the guy selling it on craiglist)?
It seems already a little expensive, and it's used, right? I'm always wary when it comes to buying used products, most likely out of warranty...
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the listing said it was all new parts and he can provide original packaging.
so 480$ was the lowest he would go. I really need a computer for sc2 but dont want to get ripped off if its really only 300-350.
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well if you dont have an os, it is a good deal,
but im pretty sure it's possible to get brand new slightly better parts for 500$ if you do have it
for 600$ (before MIR) i put up a computer for a friend, phenom2 x6 1090t, hd6870, and everything that goes with it ... (does not include the os)
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CPU is the same as the previous one, just 300 MHz faster. It's the same exact technology and chip so the same things apply. i.e. it may be a relatively new model, but it's using outdated technology. The HD 5770 here is a couple years old technology (but there's still nothing newer by AMD in that range today), but it's a generation newer than the HD 4850, a little faster (but not too much), and has DirectX 11 support.
If you bought the parts themselves (no OS) new, it would cost about $480.
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On July 26 2011 03:15 needcomputer wrote:
the listing said it was all new parts and he can provide original packaging.
so 480$ was the lowest he would go. I really need a computer for sc2 but dont want to get ripped off if its really only 300-350.
If you're in school, you can get a cheap OS with a .edu e-mail address (by school I mean college). I believe they're around $30. Or if you know any engineers, they get a ton of copies for free (that's how I got mine). Since they're otherwise around $80-90, an OS can put a huge dent if you're trying to build your own computer.
I personally don't think it's a terrible deal. The GFX card is adequate, pretty good RAM, comes with an OS, case, DVD burner... nothing spectacular, but it has what you need.
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Well, for the price, if it has an OS already on it, it's not terrible if you don't have a copy, like they said. I wouldn't do it personally, but I'm also in a position where I wouldn't need to. If your budget is limited, for what you want to do with it, it won't be horrendous by any means.
If you were willing and able to build your own, you could do slightly better in that range as far as pure hardware is concerned, but not by so much as to make it a terrible deal.
If he can show you receipts proving the stuff is new, that is. Part of my value I was slapping on it was assuming used, and thus, potential for not lasting, and non-warrantied parts.
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Been thinking about upgrading my video card now, before upgrading my motherboard+cpu in the near future (to split the costs in 2 I guess). I currently have a Radeon HD 5450 and was thinking of grabbing a Radeon HD 6850. Would it be worth it? Since my motherboard is old-ish I'm limited to 775MHZ cards so I think the 6850 is the best choice.
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A motherboard does not limit what clock speed a graphics card can run at... The limitation would be if your power supply is capable of providing enough power. I'm assuming you have some sort of Dell prebuilt so you will most likely need to get a new power supply.
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On July 26 2011 11:28 skyR wrote:
A motherboard does not limit what clock speed a graphics card can run at... The limitation would be if your power supply is capable of providing enough power. I'm assuming you have some sort of Dell prebuilt so you will most likely need to get a new power supply.
You're assuming wrong. Full spec for my current machine:
Motherboard: ASUS P5QPL-AM (Intel G41 (Eaglelake) + ICH7)
CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo E7500 @ 2933.3 MHz
Memory: 2x 2048 MBytes, DDR2-SDRam
Video Card: Sapphire RADEON HD 5450
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Regardless of whether or not it's Dell or whatever you were disputing, the point still stands that the motherboard does not limit the clock speed of the graphics card. You're limited to certain socket LGA 775 CPUs on that motherboard: e.g. Core 2 Duo, Core 2 Quad.
The graphics card frequencies are governed by the controller on the PCB that oversees the voltage regulation modules. That's unrelated to the motherboard.
Also, it's relevant what your power supply is, since that powers the voltage regulation modules that feed the GPU and other supporting components, via the PCIe power connectors (with some additional power draw from the power supply through the motherboard through the PCIe slot).
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On July 26 2011 12:05 Myrmidon wrote:
Regardless of whether or not it's Dell or whatever you were disputing, the point still stands that the motherboard does not limit the clock speed of the graphics card. You're limited to certain socket LGA 775 CPUs on that motherboard: e.g. Core 2 Duo, Core 2 Quad.
I think that's what confused me then, the 775 applies to the CPU and not the GPU, got it!
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On July 26 2011 12:21 Steeveholt wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2011 12:05 Myrmidon wrote:
Regardless of whether or not it's Dell or whatever you were disputing, the point still stands that the motherboard does not limit the clock speed of the graphics card. You're limited to certain socket LGA 775 CPUs on that motherboard: e.g. Core 2 Duo, Core 2 Quad. I think that's what confused me then, the 775 applies to the CPU and not the GPU, got it!
The 775 is a physical socket... LGA775. It's the designation for the exact setup of the pins that connect the CPU to the mainboard.
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Is the performance difference between the i5 2300 and the i5 2500 worth $25?
I'm just wondering if there really is a difference and if it will hurt me in the long run. I don't plan on overclocking.
I just want to be able to play SC2 1920x1200 on ultra and stream in 720p.
Will an i5 2300 / HD6850 / 4GB Ram be enough?
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edit: i can't read.
I was comparing the i3-2100 to the i5-2300. nevermind me...
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On July 26 2011 23:46 ensign_lee wrote:
For $25, you get four cores instead of two. And you double your L2 cache. I'd say it's well worth it. It will definitely not hurt you in the long run.
The price difference i s$60 on newegg, so if you can get the difference down to $25, it's an easy decision imo to take the i5-2300.
I think you misread something. He said i5-2300 and i5-2500, not i3-2100 and i5-2300.
Options are:
$185 - i5-2300 (2.8 GHz, max 3.1 GHz)
$190 - i5-2310 (2.9 GHz, max 3.2 GHz)
$195 - i5-2400 (3.1 GHz, max 3.4 GHz)
$210 - i5-2500 (3.3 GHz, max 3.7 GHz)
As usual, I think the i5-2400 is the best value, but it's not a huge difference.
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I think you misread what I'm saying.
I'm asking if the difference between i5 2500 and i5 2300. The only difference I can see is 3.3 GHz or 2.8GHz. and I want to know if that will really make a difference and if the setup I'm building will be able to handle what I want to do.
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