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On July 25 2011 21:45 skyR wrote:
More phases would only help if you are trying to achieve a near or beyond 5GHz overclock. A mild overclock such as 4.4GHz is achievable on most boards.
The Asrock P67 Pro3 is a very good choice of a board as it's very feature rich and is arguably on par with many of the $150 to $170 boards.
Whether the Hawk is worth it is subjective? It's a pre-overclocked card with the Twin Frozr III heatsink. Personally, no. The difference between Twin Frozr III, Twin Frozr II, Windforce, and DirectCU II is not big enough to warrant the huge premium on the Hawk.
cheers dude
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-Need some urgent help with computer I am buying (maybe today)-
I am not comfortable with building a computer so I am buying this computer with the following set up:
Case: XION ONYX Black w/ Green LED Mid Tower
Motherboard: ASUS M4A87TD EVO AM3 AMD 870 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Motherboard
CPU: AMD Athlon II X4 635 Quad-Core 2.9 GHz
GPU: XFX HD-485X-ZNFC Radeon HD 4850 1GB 256-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support
RAM: 8GB (4x2GB) DDR3 1333MHz RAM
Hard Drive: Samsung Spinpoint 1TB 7200RPM
DVD Drive: Lightscribe CD/DVD burner
Power Supply: CORSAIR Builder Series CX430
Please advise on this computer and give me a ballpark about how much its worth. I am having trouble estimating how much its worth because some parts are discontinued.
Please feel free to post here or PM me
Thanks in advance!
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Around $300 to $350, $400 at most.
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ok just wondering. its 300-400$ worth of parts? so I should add some because I am not building it myself right?
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On July 25 2011 22:31 needcomputer wrote:
ok just wondering. its 300-400$ worth of parts? so I should add some because I am not building it myself right?
No. It's worth that price range total. And $400 is already pretty generous.
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No, $300 - $400 would also be for the operating system and for it being pre-assembled. It's a very generous price as the parts alone is worth only around $250 at most.
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Great thanks for the pricing estimate. I am buying this computer for sc2. Will it be able to run sc2 perfectly fine? Also, is it possible to upgrade the computer after I buy it?
Again, thanks for dealing with someone not that tech savvy
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For the processor? No. The only better processors for the AM3 socket are the Phenom IIs which aren't that big of an upgrade from the Athlon IIs. The newer AMD processors will be on socket AM3+ so any significant processor upgrade would require a new motherboard.
You can upgrade the graphics card without much hassle though.
Yes, the configuration would be able to run Starcraft II perfectly fine.
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Awesome.
Is there any need to upgrade graphics card? I would only use computer for sc2, watching movies through netflix, and teamliquid streams.
If I wanted to stream through justin.tv would I need a more expensive computer? I see people spending over 1k$ on this thread. Is my computer too cheap??
Thanks for the quick responses~!
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You can from 700$ onward i would say
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No you don't need to upgrade the graphics card if all you're concerned about is Starcraft II. The card is capable of playing on medium to ultra, depending on what resolution you play at.
You would be able to stream at maybe 480p, don't expect to stream smoothly at 720p with an Athlon II X4.
You're buying three year old components, technically five years old since the second generation Athlon processors was quite a disappointment... so yes it would be considered cheap.
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Anandtech released a new RAM Benchmark for Sandy Bridge, testing memory kits and discussing the relative value based on the new, lower prices of DDR3.
From the conclusion:Sandy Bridge's improved memory controller has all but eliminated the need for extreme memory bandwidth, at least for this architecture. It's only when you get down to DDR3-1333 that you see a minor performance penalty. The sweet spot appears to be at DDR3-1600, where you will see a minor performance increase over DDR3-1333 with only a slight increase in cost. The performance increase gained by going up to DDR3-1866 or DDR3-2133 isn't nearly as pronounced.
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Which pretty much states the obvious that people have known since day one: buy the cheapest shit, use your common sense (if 1600mhz is same price as 1333mhz, get 1600mhz memory), and there's not really any point to overclocking your memory unless you are seriously OCD or want some sick benchmark scores.
Anandtech once again throws out a completely boring, milquetoast article. The only good reviews are their in-depth analysis of operating systems, which tend to come on extremely new and potentially ground breaking mobile devices. Unsurprisingly, those tend to be done by the bossman himself.
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How much RAM would I need if I use my PC for SC2 and a lot of video edit works?
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For consumer/prosumer level stuff, you do not really need more than 8GB.
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4gb is enough for everyday user, some can go up to 7, personally i've never used more then 3 at a time
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On July 25 2011 23:26 Womwomwom wrote:
Which pretty much states the obvious that people have known since day one: buy the cheapest shit, use your common sense (if 1600mhz is same price as 1333mhz, get 1600mhz memory), and there's not really any point to overclocking your memory unless you are seriously OCD or want some sick benchmark scores.
Anandtech once again throws out a completely boring, milquetoast article. The only good reviews are their in-depth analysis of operating systems, which tend to come on extremely new and potentially ground breaking mobile devices. Unsurprisingly, those tend to be done by the bossman himself.
Yeah also TR beat Anandtech to the punch by over 5.5 months. I really wonder what is going on at AT at times. AT also has a tendency to rush release-day articles so they have the Asus-like, first-to-market problems. I.e. charts are incorrect, numerous mistakes (often pointed out by sharp-eyed readers), etc.
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Yeah, but you know how people are. They like to see a pretty article that looks all "official". So now there's a recent one saying what they need to hear, adjusted for current memory prices. That's the only reason I pointed it out.
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Hello TL tech guys, I really need your help on this one. Some quick back ground on me, I have only been into PC gaming for the past two years. I have a good grasp on how everything works and goes together, BUT my biggest problem is i have no clue when is comes down to parts, price, brands, ect. ect. From my first impression this is exactly why this tread is here :D
Budget: 800 - 1200
Uses: Listed in order by priority
1) Gaming - Would really enjoy playing SC2 with more than 3 FPS  Play most games on high-ultra settings
2) Entertainment - I will be using this computer as all forms of my entertainment as far as T.V. and movies.
3) Streaming - within the next few months would like to start streaming SC2 games.
Resolution - I have no clue when it comes to resolution. I would enjoy HD quality. If this is determined by the monitor by budget is $200-300 for a monitor.
Upgrade Cycle - around 2 years
Build Time - I plan on building this yesterday jk. I would like to be ordering parts next week.
Overclocking - As I am unfamiliar with this I do not plan on overclocking unless there are some great advantages to this.
OS - Yes I need a OS
Parts - I am buying almost all parts online. Newegg, Ebay, Ect.
Thanks and I am excited to be hearing back from you all!
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