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On July 28 2011 12:16 Gattaca.usa wrote:
Will i need to be buy a processor like the 2500k or can i get away with the 2400? will i be able to stream at 720p?
Actually, I will run SC2 in windowed mode so you can't select a resolution. does that change anything?
You can probably get away with a i5-2400, particularly if you cut down the fps or quality. Also, it's not like I'd call 720p an important milestone or anything. A 540p stream when you're playing on 1080p can look great.
I'm not particularly sure of exactly what settings or fps or whatever you'll get in most scenarios, so if you want to make sure, maybe you should ask around in streaming threads or ask streamers.
On July 28 2011 12:33 zoLo wrote:I forgot to add, but I should be able to use the i5 2500K fine right?
Yes.
On July 28 2011 12:54 Alabasern wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2011 18:47 skyR wrote:On July 27 2011 16:13 Alabasern wrote:
Sounds good Myrimidon, I'll be patient for now. I'm really excited for the Ivy Bridge as well, but I want to play Diablo III at launch (which is this winter right?!) Diablo III beta should start soon and Blizzard has stated that they want to ship the game before the end of the year. AMD's Bulldozer is expected for September 16th. Intel's Ivybridge won't be out until March / April of 2012. I'm might just wait until Intel's Haswell chip ships and get a Nvidia Maxwell GPU with it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haswell_(microarchitecture)
Haswell is expected to have 8 cores!![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/gSicE.jpg) A Maxwell GPU will have 16 times the power of a current Nvidia GPU.
Is this serious? They already have 10 cores with Westmere EX Xeons, and AMD has 12 cores in some Magny-Cours Opterons. In the consumer market, AMD's a couple months away from releasing 8 core models. But who cares how many cores there are, unless you can actually make use of them?
Also, maybe you should note that Maxwell slide was from an old presentation, may be very optimistic, says "per Watt," and is just talking about FLOPs.
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SkyR just for your opinion do you think AMD's Bulldozer series will top the latest Core i5 / i7 series (such as the 2X00 Ks)? What do you think their price range will be at?
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Got all my components in earlier today. Started working on it around 7. Finished up putting everything together around 10... only one minor hiccup. As it was one of the very last things I did, I accidentally switched around the connections for the power button and the reset button. Damn near gave myself a heart attack when the machine wouldn't turn on...
But I tested the button on the motherboard itself and the computer turned on fine, so I figured it out before completely disassembling everything... but certainly not before swearing a whole lot.
Gonna start installing drivers in a couple minutes... just needed to take a break so I hopped on my laptop for a bit.
Thanks again everybody. It wasn't nearly as bad as I thought it'd be. (except for the heatsink. I fucking hate pushpins.)
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On July 28 2011 13:15 Cubbieblue66 wrote:
Thanks again everybody. It wasn't nearly as bad as I thought it'd be. (except for the heatsink. I fucking hate pushpins.)
same problem for me the first time ^^
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On July 28 2011 13:13 epikAnglory wrote:
SkyR just for your opinion do you think AMD's Bulldozer series will top the latest Core i5 / i7 series (such as the 2X00 Ks)? What do you think their price range will be at?
There's a possibility that it will be competitive to that of Intel's current offerings since AMD is pricing it to compete against the Core i5 2500k and Core i7 2600k. The expected pricing starts at $200 for a quad core and goes up to $300 for an octo core. Even though Sandybridge-E is going to demolish it to the ground, I do hope that it outperforms the core i5 2500k and core i7 2600k in multi-threaded applications.
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Is this serious? They already have 10 cores with Westmere EX Xeons, and AMD has 12 cores in some Magny-Cours Opterons. In the consumer market, AMD's a couple months away from releasing 8 core models. But who cares how many cores there are, unless you can actually make use of them?
Also, maybe you should note that Maxwell slide was from an old presentation, may be very optimistic, says "per Watt," and is just talking about FLOPs.
Thanks for the information.
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If I plan on Overclocking a 2500k, what would be a good speed to OC it to? Also, I have an HD6850 and a corsair cx430. will I need a better PSU to OC it?
What is a good but inexpensive HSF if I plan on OC the 2500k?
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On July 28 2011 13:45 Gattaca.usa wrote:
If I plan on Overclocking a 2500k, what would be a good speed to OC it to? Also, I have an HD6850 and a corsair cx430. will I need a better PSU to OC it?
What is a good but inexpensive HSF if I plan on OC the 2500k?
Depending on the exact chip you get, the cooling, desired noise and performance, and so on, probably between 4.3 and 4.8 GHz. I'd suggest 4.4 GHz or so, no more than 1.3V on the cores.
A couple decent options would be the Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus ($25) or Xigmatek Gaia ($27). The fan on the Xigmatek is a little quieter because it doesn't spin up as fast, but they're roughly the same in performance. It's pretty much the same design for both, nothing special there.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835233082
edit: CX430 V2 has plenty of power for that, and it delivers very clean power. The only real weaknesses are the lack of connectors--though it has enough for your build--and the use of 2nd-tier or even 3rd-tier components that are okay but really can't be expected to last many many years of service, unlike what some other more expensive models use.
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What is your budget?
I don't have a set limit, nor is it a limiting factor for me.
What is your resolution
1920x1080.
What are you using it for?
Gaming and streaming primarily.
What is your upgrade cycle?
I'd prefer that this build last upwards of five years.
When do you plan on building it?
As soon as is realistically possible.
Do you plan on overclocking?
No.
Do you need an operating system?
Yes.
Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
Only if it's truly the best option. Otherwise, no.
Where are you buying your parts from?
NewEgg
My goals with this build:
1. Run StarCraft 2 on maximum settings.
2. Run Battlefield 3 on maximum settings.
3. Have the capability to stream in HD.
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is it easier to overclock with a z68 board or a p67?
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If you never plan on overclocking is there any reason to get an i5-2500K over an i5-2500?
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On July 28 2011 16:31 Gattaca.usa wrote:
is it easier to overclock with a z68 board or a p67?
Nope, both overclock the same, it depends on the motherboard, not the chipset.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/asrock-z68-extreme4-asus-p8z68-v-pro-gigabyte-z68x-ud3h-b3,2939-17.html
On July 28 2011 18:34 nihlon wrote:
If you never plan on overclocking is there any reason to get an i5-2500K over an i5-2500?
Nope, the 2500 and 2500K are exactly the same CPU with the same stock/turbo clocks with the exception of the former having an unlocked multiplier and Intel HD Graphics 3000. If you're not planning to overclock, 2400 is the better choice as it is only 300MHz lesser (on Turbo).
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Hello tl ppl. im noob getting a new custom pc up so i would appreciate if u could help me out with building a new one.
What is your budget?
My budget is about 1100 euro.
What is your resolution?
Im prepared to go for HD cause im getting a new monitor with hd. i dont know what resolution is that :/
What are you using it for?
I want this computer for gaming mostly but i want to keep it for about 5 years and change only the graphics card or mostly the ram.
What is your upgrade cycle?
My upgrade cycle is about 4 or 5 years changing only graphics card
When do you plan on building it?
In about a month or less
Do you plan on overclocking?
I dont even think about overclocking cause i dont know how to overclock
Do you need an Operating System?
Yes i would like an operating system
Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
Is it needed to add a second GPU? i just need that pc to play games.
Where are you buying your parts from?
www.skroutz.gr
I appreciate for your effort in advance and hope not to be a bother.
thanks a lot.
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good build for the deal, all the componnents are pretty good in the combo, but not he best for the price
buti 'd get a 6870 for just 15$ more over the 6850 (personal opinion, i just love mine ^^)
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@Gattaca - how did you manage to find a combo deal with actual good components in it? :O They're usuaully shitty hah.
But yeah, that power supply, mobo, RAM - all of it looks great.
Well, if you like that case, go for it. That looks awesome. ONly change I'd make is to get another DVD drive, since that one has $5 shipping and surely there's one for <= $20 with free shiping.
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when you purchase a lot of things on newegg, they discount the shipping when you buy a bunch of things. the shipping for the whole order is $11.87. If i get a different DVD drive(19.99) that has free shipping it makes the shipping $10.45. By going with the cheaper one but not free shipping, I SAVE 8 CENTS.
so in the end it doesn't matter.
EDIT: Is there a big difference between the 6850 and 6870?? Is it worth the extra money?
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I'd just like a few opinions really. Would it be worth getting a 570 over a 560 ti or would i be better off spending less on the 560 ti and saving money to upgrade in the future?
Also, for an extra £30 would the 6950 be worth it?
Many thanks
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