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On January 25 2013 07:56 TraXXas wrote:
Yo guys im thinking about to buy a new comp that can run games like flight simulator X rock solid and other games ofc
And im thinking about this one what you think ?
Intel® Core™ i7-3820 4x3.60GHz (Turbo 3.80GHz) 10MB cache
Ram - Kingston HyperX 16 GB DDR3-1600 PnP (QuadChannel)
Graphic card - EVGA GeForce GTX680 2GB GDDR5
windows 7 or windows 8??
Budget? 16 GB RAM is too much, 4 or 8 is perfectly fine. Kingston isn't great AFAIK either.
7970 is a better buy then a 680 at the moment.
i7 is complete overkill for gaming (more than that, it's wasteful for gaming). It has little to no measurable benefit vs an i5 (the main difference between i5/i7 is that the latter has hyperthreading, a feature typically unused in games).
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On January 25 2013 07:56 TraXXas wrote:
Yo guys im thinking about to buy a new comp that can run games like flight simulator X rock solid and other games ofc
And im thinking about this one what you think ?
Intel® Core™ i7-3820 4x3.60GHz (Turbo 3.80GHz) 10MB cache
Ram - Kingston HyperX 16 GB DDR3-1600 PnP (QuadChannel)
Graphic card - EVGA GeForce GTX680 2GB GDDR5
windows 7 or windows 8??
That pc will run anything on max. With good frames too.
Windows 7 for sure!
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There are an alarmingly high number of customer reviews for the monitor complaining about ghosting / motion response issues, so unless you'll just be looking at static images all the time and look away when scrolling the screen... maybe not.
I'd say to downgrade some other things or increase the budget, so you don't have to use a low-end monitor and mouse. No point in getting say 5 fps higher in games when all the frames look like crap.
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Is there a particular reason Newegg doesn't seem to carry just about anything related to watercooling except some closed loop CPU coolers?
Also, any idea on the reputation of http://www.performance-pcs.com or http://www.xoxide.com (e.g. quality of service, returns, etc.)?
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what do you guys think about this parts/ any suggestions/advice are welcome
this one is for streaming movies wireless to my tv
Nyrius ARIES Prime Digital Wireless HDMI Transmitter & Receiver System for HD 1080p 3D Video Streaming, Laptops, PC, Cablebox, Satellite, Blu-ray, DVD, PS3, Xbox (NPCS549)
This monitor for gaming and video editing and some photoshop
ASUS PA248Q 24-Inch LED-Lit Super-IPS Professional Graphics Monitor -
and this memory
i'm buying an i5 with the gtx680 graphics card should i add 16 gs fo memory?
Corsair Vengeance 8 GB ( 2 x 4 GB ) DDR3 1600 MHz (PC3 12800) 240-Pin DDR3 Memory Kit for Core i3, i5, i7 and Platforms SDRAM CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9 -
this is the motherboard
AS Rock LGA1155 DDR3 SATA3 USB3.0 Quad CrossFireX and Quad SLI A GbE ATX Motherboard Z77 EXTREME4 -
thanks
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So I finally bought my new computer (thanks to Myrmidon, skyR, belial88, and all those who helped me!)
here are a few specs..
i5 3470 CPU
HD 7750 GPU
CX500w PSU
AsRock h77m LGA 1155 MOBO
I assume i can atleast stream at 720p???? but what are your reccomendations for my stream settings?
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On January 25 2013 09:45 ImANinjaBich wrote:
So I finally bought my new computer (thanks to Myrmidon, skyR, belial88, and all those who helped me!)
here are a few specs..
i5 3470 CPU
HD 7750 GPU
CX500w PSU
AsRock h77m LGA 1155 MOBO
I assume i can atleast stream at 720p???? but what are your reccomendations for my stream settings?
Your CPU is what really matters for steaming. What is it?
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On January 25 2013 11:14 Craton wrote:
He said i5 3470.
Missed that somehow! Yeah, you should be able to stream 720p no problem at all.
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what do you guys think about this parts/ any suggestions/advice are welcome
this one is for streaming movies wireless to my tv
Nyrius ARIES Prime Digital Wireless HDMI Transmitter & Receiver System for HD 1080p 3D Video Streaming, Laptops, PC, Cablebox, Satellite, Blu-ray, DVD, PS3, Xbox (NPCS549)
This monitor for gaming and video editing and some photoshop
ASUS PA248Q 24-Inch LED-Lit Super-IPS Professional Graphics Monitor -
and this memory
i'm buying an i5 with the gtx680 graphics card should i add 16 gs fo memory?
Corsair Vengeance 8 GB ( 2 x 4 GB ) DDR3 1600 MHz (PC3 12800) 240-Pin DDR3 Memory Kit for Core i3, i5, i7 and Platforms SDRAM CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9 -
this is the motherboard
AS Rock LGA1155 DDR3 SATA3 USB3.0 Quad CrossFireX and Quad SLI A GbE ATX Motherboard Z77 EXTREME4 -
thanks
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On January 25 2013 05:44 skyR wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2013 03:53 DoomBox wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Hey everyone!
I've been thinking about this for a while and I've finally decided to build a computer and I'm a total noob. So far I've been gaming on my 2010 macbook pro in windows 7, which by all means works excellently, but you can't expect anything above the lowest graphics, and some games are ruled out completely.
I'm about to spend about $1200 on the build because I want it to be rather beefy and I would like to ask a few question before finalizing it. I'm going to run a rather slow upgrade cycle as far as I can tell today.
Regarding the part choices I've mainly looked for good reviews and at popular streamers' builds.
These are the parts. Prices are from inet.se and have been converted from SEK.
MB: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 $180
CPU: Intel i5 3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4 Ghz $280
GPU: EVGA GeForce GTX 660Ti 2048MB $370
Memory: Corsair 8GB (2x4096MB) CL9 1600Mhz VENGEANCE LP Red $53
Hard drive: 1TB Seagate/Samsung Barracuda 7200rpm $96
Case: Fractal Design Arc Black $115
PSU: Fractal Design Integra R2 500W 80+ Bronze $84
Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO $44
The motherboard seems adequate and not too expensive. Got a good amount of slots and connections and should last me a while. Also supports multiple GPUs.
Frankly, I can't really tell the difference between various GPUs. Ideally I'd like to run high if not the highest graphics in various modern games, including Planetside 2. I will be running a single 1920x1080 monitor initially but might very well get a second one as I've gotten used to having the laptop screen in addition to the main one. I do have money to burn on a more expensive card but I can't tell if it's worth it. The GTX 660Ti seems alright to me and I can definitely live with playing on slightly lower graphics (I certainly have so far).
I would also like to stream, which AFAIK is mostly up to the CPU. This one is the beefiest i5 so it should be sufficient.
Memory-wise I'm thinking why not go for 8 Gb. It's not very expensive and it's nice to be able to keep programs/tabs open for a while.
I was thinking of getting an SSD in addition to the 1TB for storage but it didn't seem to me to be worth it. $150 for faster loading times? I can live without it. I did go for a high-ish RPM drive however.
(Also: god damn storage is cheap these days)
I've heard good things about the Fractal case regarding airflow and cable management, and as far as I can tell it's good looking too, and not very expensive.
The PSU is from Fractal as well. Again I looked for good reviews and this one seems adequate. Quiet, sleeved cables and affordable.
Regarding the cooler I've really got no idea. I intend to OC the i5 at least a little bit (I see some people going to 4.5 like it's nothing, but that seems like a lot), and I suppose it just makes me feel better to see the CPU running cool. They don't seem to cost a lot either. This cooler has got good reviews and seems to do its' job.
Final question/TLDR: (perhaps only question if everything seems alright)
Do I need to buy anything more than this? Like cables and the like? Cooling paste? I've really got no idea what usually comes with the parts when you order. I noticed you can buy certain hard drives with or without SATA-cables so I made sure to look for the ones that sell with cables.
Also is there anything I should remember when assembling it, or perhaps there's a convenient guide somewhere? For example I don't want to fry a circuit with static electricity or anything stupid like that.
I'm feeling pretty confident about the assembly (being able to fit pegs into holes and all that) but I don't want to do anything stupid and thought I'd ask here just in case. Any help would be very appreciated!
Thanks in advance, and I apologize for wall of text.
Doombox Thermal paste is included with the heatsink. SATA cables are included with the motherboard so there is really no point to getting a retail HDD as opposed to OEM. All you get is a cable, manual, and maybe some software. 7200 RPM is standard for desktop HDDs. XFX Core Edition 550 is better but it's out of stock. Not sure which reviews you read but the Fractal Design unit you have selected is a really poor unit so I wouldn't pick it. Hardwarecanucks and Newegg both have PC assembly guides on Youtube. If you haven't already then you should take a look at various GPU reviews (eg. http://www.anandtech.com/show/6276 ). A GTX 660 is $100 less expensive than the 660 Ti and typically comes pretty close to it in terms of performance.
Thank you very much for your help!
It seemed like you really had a point about 660 vs 660Ti when I looked it up. However, it seems like where I live the price of 660Ti:s has dropped, more so than 660, so in the end it felt justified to get the 660Ti anyway, for a slightly higher price.
I'll certainly look up these youtube guides, and I appreciate the help regarding cables and thermal paste.
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I had a good PC, but it's getting a bit old. I started streaming and commentating (this is not a thread about streaming...) and I am finding my PC too slow for good graphics and no lag.
This is my question: Should I get a better CPU (prosessor), more RAM or a new graphic card? Maybe a combination of 2 or all of the above? I do not know so much about these things as I used to anymore. I will include specifications (from dxdiag). And I would rather not buy a whole new computer.
CPU (prosessor): Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E6850 @ 3.00GHz (2 CPUs), ~3.0GHz
RAM: 4096MB
Graphic Card:
Card name: ATI Radeon HD 3870 X2
Manufacturer: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
Chip type: ATI display adapter (0x950F)
DAC type: Internal DAC(400MHz)
Display Memory: 2802 MB
Dedicated Memory: 1010 MB
Shared Memory: 1791 MB
Current Mode: 1680 x 1050 (32 bit) (59Hz)
Any thoughts? Please share!
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Streaming relies on the CPU, has nothing to do with the GPU.
Getting a new processor requires a new motherboard and new RAM as well.
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On January 22 2013 05:52 Sein wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2013 05:37 TheSwamp wrote:On January 22 2013 05:13 MisterFred wrote:@The Swamp. As SkyR said, look at the post I wrote for Coil1 (last post pg. 1357) Though being near a microcenter (which one?), you could consider overclocking as you can do it relatively cheaply (you can often get z77 boards cheap as part of an in-store bundle deal). Either way, you'll want to get your processor at microcenter. For the build I posted on the last page, you'd want to get the i5-3470 @ microcenter for a nice $50 discount: http://www.microcenter.com/product/400664/Core_i5_3470_32GHz_LGA_1155_Boxed_ProcessorOther than processor or mobo as part of a bundle/combo deal, microcenter rarely offers prices better than newegg/us.ncix.com, however. Your budget is a little higher, of course, but there's not really anything more to spend on unless you want to put some effort into quiet computing, overclock, or are planning on getting a better monitor. You could upgrade to a 7950 instead of 7870, but that'll have only a marginal difference on graphics performance for maybe Planetside 2. A 7870 is already horrendous overkill for SC2 & CS:GO, as SkyR mentioned. Hi and thanks for the help. I live in Chicago. I bought my last PC at MicroCenter and they price matched everything. I'm not sure if they still do this, but if they do I'd rather get everything at the same time. If I were to overclock, would I need an extra fan? Also, to what Nvidia GPU would the 7950 and 7870 be comparable? I know nothing about ATI cards. Seriously though thanks so much! GTX670 and 660ti would be around what you're looking for (7950/7870 range). A lot of people say that 7870 is the best bang for the buck though. And yes, you will want to get an aftermarket fan (instead of the one that comes with your cpu package) if you want to OC. Shouldn't cost you more than 30-35 unless you want to get a fancy one. You will also need a bit more expensive motherboard. Oh, and one more thing. Check with MC first to see what exactly their bundle deal is this time around. It used to be $50 off any Z77 motherboard if you buy a i7-3770k, i5-3570k, or i3-3225, but at least in my area, they changed it to $40 off any motherboard with either 3570k or 3225. The sales reps didn't allow other processors to be bundled.
Hi, sorry for taking so long to reply. So all I know is to be able to OC an Intel it has to have a K next to the name, correct? Also, My budget has become a little more flexible so if there something that I could spend some extra money on that would be worth it, I can do that.
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Hey guys,
I'm looking for a mid-range build...I'll hit the bullet points from the OP, feel free to post here or PM me if you have questions or suggestions...The build is for a friend, so I'll do my best! I've been building my own computers since middle school so I'm versed enough but I haven't had to replace my current rig so I'm out of the loop. I think my current PC was built when the 480 cards were brand new (I bought two of em, ouch..  )
Budget: Not a concern of mine really, I honestly don't know what parts cost these days...I'm one of those people that fronts a huge cost for a mega-computer and doesn't have to buy a new one for 5+ years
Resolution: 1920x1080, single monitor use. Potential for dual monitor later but as of right now there's no place for two monitors haha.
Use: Mild gaming, dabbling in photoshop. No streaming. I'd say the most "hardcore" game on the computer right now is Borderlands 2. The ability to play current/future games on mid/high settings is a plus, but we don't have to be maxing things. Photoshop is the person's job, they use it mostly on their work computer but they're enjoying it enough and seem to want to learn it more for personal use.
Upgrade cycle: Generally I upgrade 2-4 years, or whenever what I have stops working...not sure on this person's plans for an upgrade cycle but we should shoot for the same I'd hope!
Building When: Looking to build ASAP, Their old laptop died and we're looking to replace.
Overclocking: No plans.
Operating System: Yes we will be using Windows 7.
Second GPU: No plans, not necessary for "future proofing" either.
Parts: Microcenter is a mere 5 minutes away from me, though anywhere is fine really. Newegg is tough for me to buy from (long story) so unless the deals there are HUGE HUGE, avoid it.
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On January 25 2013 09:14 Craton wrote:Is there a particular reason Newegg doesn't seem to carry just about anything related to watercooling except some closed loop CPU coolers? Also, any idea on the reputation of http://www.performance-pcs.com or http://www.xoxide.com (e.g. quality of service, returns, etc.)?
I think they do sell some waterblocks for GPU, but none of the tubing or radiator/pumps, probably too niche for their consumers.
On January 25 2013 18:41 skyR wrote:
Streaming relies on the CPU, has nothing to do with the GPU.
Getting a new processor requires a new motherboard and new RAM as well.
Don't they sell those specialized streaming pci-e cards? It's suppose to offload a lot of the streaming load onto that, and helps significantly.
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On January 26 2013 04:50 TheSwamp wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On January 22 2013 05:52 Sein wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2013 05:37 TheSwamp wrote:On January 22 2013 05:13 MisterFred wrote:@The Swamp. As SkyR said, look at the post I wrote for Coil1 (last post pg. 1357) Though being near a microcenter (which one?), you could consider overclocking as you can do it relatively cheaply (you can often get z77 boards cheap as part of an in-store bundle deal). Either way, you'll want to get your processor at microcenter. For the build I posted on the last page, you'd want to get the i5-3470 @ microcenter for a nice $50 discount: http://www.microcenter.com/product/400664/Core_i5_3470_32GHz_LGA_1155_Boxed_ProcessorOther than processor or mobo as part of a bundle/combo deal, microcenter rarely offers prices better than newegg/us.ncix.com, however. Your budget is a little higher, of course, but there's not really anything more to spend on unless you want to put some effort into quiet computing, overclock, or are planning on getting a better monitor. You could upgrade to a 7950 instead of 7870, but that'll have only a marginal difference on graphics performance for maybe Planetside 2. A 7870 is already horrendous overkill for SC2 & CS:GO, as SkyR mentioned. Hi and thanks for the help. I live in Chicago. I bought my last PC at MicroCenter and they price matched everything. I'm not sure if they still do this, but if they do I'd rather get everything at the same time. If I were to overclock, would I need an extra fan? Also, to what Nvidia GPU would the 7950 and 7870 be comparable? I know nothing about ATI cards. Seriously though thanks so much! GTX670 and 660ti would be around what you're looking for (7950/7870 range). A lot of people say that 7870 is the best bang for the buck though. And yes, you will want to get an aftermarket fan (instead of the one that comes with your cpu package) if you want to OC. Shouldn't cost you more than 30-35 unless you want to get a fancy one. You will also need a bit more expensive motherboard. Oh, and one more thing. Check with MC first to see what exactly their bundle deal is this time around. It used to be $50 off any Z77 motherboard if you buy a i7-3770k, i5-3570k, or i3-3225, but at least in my area, they changed it to $40 off any motherboard with either 3570k or 3225. The sales reps didn't allow other processors to be bundled. Hi, sorry for taking so long to reply. So all I know is to be able to OC an Intel it has to have a K next to the name, correct? Also, My budget has become a little more flexible so if there something that I could spend some extra money on that would be worth it, I can do that.
Overclocking requires a K suffix processor along with a Z chipset board (Z77, Z75, etc).
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Hey, and thanks for everything I have learned from you guys already. I have been browsing the thread for a while so have learned/researched alot before I even put my first post in here. I at least feel at silver-level and able to communicate effectively =P
+ Show Spoiler [OP Q&A] +What is your budget?$750-1000 (before MIR, if any) What is your resolution?Ordered the ASUS VG23AH from Fry's. What are you using it for?Mostly gaming / media center (music, movies/shows/tv, nothing hardcore) / home-network hub / some streaming What is your upgrade cycle?I would say about 8 months to 1 year. When do you plan on building it?Today, tomorrow, this weekend, or as soon as I get all the parts. Do you plan on overclocking?Would like to have the option in my next upgrade cycle but not atm. Question: I bought the Antec 430W earthwatts green (80+ bronze) for $21 (Fry's deal + GC) so will keep it no matter what, but if I decide to OC later, will it be able to handle this or would I need a stronger PSU (I don't mind paying for another later on along with a cooler)? What about if I go SLI later? Do you need an Operating System?Taken care of. Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?Same as the OC answer in that it would be nice to have the option for another upgrade cycle later on but not atm. I don't think my PSU is able to support SLI, so would it be too much of a hassle to change PSU later on if I do go that route? Reason being I don't want to lose out on the value I got for the Earthwatts I already own. I do know that I will need a better monitor for this to be worth it if I do also. Where are you buying your parts from?I live about 2 blocks from a Fry's so it essentially my run-to store. I am going on a microcenter run (45 min drive) for the CPU + Mobo and anything else you guys suggest would be good to get from there ( I will get them to price-match if from newegg, ncix, or wherever). I also don't mind ordering parts from the websites but if these stores have them in stock I would rather get them to price-match. I think newegg also has a pick-up facility on my way back from microcenter but rather not (yes, I live in PC-component-ordering heaven )
In any case, I care about getting the most performance for my money (sales, etc) so I have started the component list with what I already have. If I am wrong on something, please correct me.
+ Show Spoiler [Parts List] +
Monitor: ASUS VG23AH (Frys, $229 (before $20 MIR))
PSU: Antec Earthwatts Green 430W 80+ Bronze (Frys, $20)
CPU and MOBO: i5 3570K 3.4GHz LGA 1155 Processor (microcenter, 189.99) and Z77 Extreme4 LGA 1155 Z77 ATX (microcenter, 94.99(before $10 MIR))...they also have the MSI z77A-G45 and ASUS P8Z77-V LK for around the same price if those are better?
HDD: 1TB would be good I think.
SSD: a 120gb or 128gb would be great.
RAM: 4gb is enough. Any deals recommended?
Disc Drive: DVD RW or blu-ray on sale would be nice but not willing to overpay for blu-ray
Case: Not sure looking at ~$50 range.
GPU: This is probably where I need the most help. Don't really want to spend too much on a great one, more like a good one that will give me the most bang-for-buck right now. Nvidia is preferred, since it is better for my monitor from some limited research I have done. Also, what cable to my monitor should I get if i plan on adjusting the monitor to 75hz (want to make sure)?
Thanks in advance. All of your guys' help is really appreciated. Seriously.
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