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On January 24 2013 12:25 CygnusAres wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2013 12:02 Alryk wrote:On January 24 2013 11:38 SoulWager wrote:On January 24 2013 10:22 -bambi- wrote:
Hey Everyone,
My parents' computer recently died, so they are looking to get a new one right away. This computer would be used a lot, but not for anything incredibly graphics intensive. I've built a PC before so I have a general idea of what I need, but I'm not completely sure what's necessary and would like the price to be as low as possible. Answers to question in the OP are:
-Budget: $600-800
-Resolution: 1080p
-Usage:
Family computer, not much gaming at all. Some video editing/transcoding
-Upgrade Cycle: Fairly long, 4 years?
-Building it ASAP
-Overclocking if budget allows it
-Already have OS
-No SLI
-Buying parts from NCIX
I'd really like to include an SSD if possible. My current PC has one and it makes a world of difference. As mentioned above, the only CPU or graphics intensive thing being done would be video editing. Right now I'm mainly debating between an i3 and i5. I imagine the i5 is significantly better for video editing/transcoding but I'm not sure how much.
Any suggestions/help would be great!
Here's a matx build, I didn't include a video card because integrated graphics sounds powerful enough for what you're doing, but if you want to game on it you can add one later. PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / BenchmarksCPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Microcenter) CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 76.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.98 @ Amazon) Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Pro4-M Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($109.99 @ Amazon) Memory: Patriot Viper 3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($38.50 @ NCIX US) Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.99 @ NCIX US) Storage: Samsung 830 Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($112.98 @ Newegg) Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($39.99 @ NCIX US) Power Supply: Antec 450W ATX12V Power Supply ($30.95 @ NCIX US) Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224BB DVD/CD Writer ($15.99 @ Newegg) Total: $628.36 (Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-23 21:32 EST-0500) Edit: Ninja'd  Bambi, You mentioned overclocking if budget allows it, but do your parents know enough about computers to overclock? If not, an i5-3570 + B75 motherboard is probably enough. Also, isn't the Z77 Pro3 a better generic choice? A hyper 212+ won't fit in a fractal design core 1000. I believe 92mm fan towers are the max height. Either way, I wouldn't overclock in one; it's a pretty small case (source me; I have one). Plenty of cases have been discussed in the past page though. + Show Spoiler +And a Samsung 840 is cheaper and better than the 830 (which has been discontinued anyways). And get a different power supply I think? I think Antec Neo Eco 400W is 1) better and 2) 30$ with free shipping on newegg ( link) and 3) more than enough, especially because there isn't a GPU. Double edit: Oops. You're in canada. I spoilered out my irrelevant advice, although the 840 is still better than an 830, and probably cheaper? The advice is still relevant if you can still find the parts from ncix though I guess. Newbie here. Do I need to buy wi-fi adapter for this build? Screened through several pages, but saw none of it in the build suggestion. I'm using fiber optics broadband.
I don't think so? Unless you're trying to connect from a wifi router that isn't located where your PC is, you just connect with the normal cat5 cable. If you aren't using a cable... yeah just grab a USB wifi-adapter.
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Can someone tell me what are the benefits of over-clocking and what is used for?
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More performance, to be used for better fps in games generally (in the context of this site). That's essentially the short version, somebody else could describe it in more detail if they feel like it.
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On January 24 2013 13:06 nichan wrote:
Can someone tell me what are the benefits of over-clocking and what is used for?
It is increasing the clock speed over the default setting. The clock speed is the frequency of the clock signal used for timing in a digital logic circuit, so the faster this is, the faster stuff gets done.
The CPU and GPU makers set the default clock speeds out of considerations such as longevity (probability of failure), price of cooling solutions, keeping up with competitors, managing a whole product line, keeping profit margins, etc.
Most chips can run faster than the default speeds, even more so if they are given more voltage and operated at lower temperatures, at least to a certain point, with plenty of other factors and caveats not mentioned. Higher voltage and higher temperatures are bad for longevity; that said, default settings for CPUs are very conservative in terms of lifespan compared to what most people need and expect, so there is margin to work with.
If you want higher performance, overclocking is a means to get that. If you don't need performance over what the chips at default settings can do, then it's not relevant for you.
Currently it's impossible to buy a processor that runs x86 instructions (read: that runs Windows, OS X, etc., and related programs), that is faster than a i7-3770k at most computing workloads that desktop users are interested in. It doesn't exist yet, at least for sale. Only way to get something faster is to overclock something like a i7-3770k or something around as fast like i5-3570k, i5-2500k, etc.
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On January 24 2013 13:21 Myrmidon wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2013 13:06 nichan wrote:
Can someone tell me what are the benefits of over-clocking and what is used for? It is increasing the clock speed over the default setting. The clock speed is the frequency of the clock signal used for timing in a digital logic circuit, so the faster this is, the faster stuff gets done. The CPU and GPU makers set the default clock speeds out of considerations such as longevity (probability of failure), price of cooling solutions, keeping up with competitors, managing a whole product line, keeping profit margins, etc. Most chips can run faster than the default speeds, even more so if they are given more voltage and operated at lower temperatures, at least to a certain point, with plenty of other factors and caveats not mentioned. Higher voltage and higher temperatures are bad for longevity; that said, default settings for CPUs are very conservative in terms of lifespan compared to what most people need and expect, so there is margin to work with. If you want higher performance, overclocking is a means to get that. If you don't need performance over what the chips at default settings can do, then it's not relevant for you. Currently it's impossible to buy a processor that runs x86 instructions (read: that runs Windows, OS X, etc., and related programs), that is faster than a i7-3770k at most computing workloads that desktop users are interested in. It doesn't exist yet, at least for sale. Only way to get something faster is to overclock something like a i7-3770k or something around as fast like i5-3570k, i5-2500k, etc.
Thank you
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Monitor: ASUS PA248Q 24-Inch LED-Lit Super-IPS
hard drive: WD green 2TB
SSD: Samsung electronics 840 pro series
Memory: Corsair vengeance 8 GB
Cooler: CoolerMaster Hyper 212 EVO
Mother board: AS Rock LGA 1155 DDR3
CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K
Power: Rosewill Capstone series 45OW 80 plus gold.
Graphics Card: Gforce GTX 680
keyboard: DAS Professional brown switches.
Case: ThermalTake Level 10 GT Battle Edition
Nyrius ARIES Prime Digital Wireless HDMI Transmitter & Receiver System for HD 1080p 3D Video
I'm working on building my computer and even tho this is like the 10th time i post the parts i want to know what would you change on this my budget is 2000 dollars i would still like to get another monitor that is not for gaming but photoshop and video editing.
The computer is mainly going to be use for streaming movies to my tv games photoshop/video editing
also how much of a difference would 16 gb of ram make instead of 8
thanks in advance
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Monitor: ASUS PA248Q 24-Inch LED-Lit Super-IPS
hard drive: WD green 2TB
SSD: Samsung electronics 840 pro series
Memory: Corsair vengeance 8 GB
Cooler: CoolerMaster Hyper 212 EVO
Mother board: AS Rock LGA 1155 DDR3
CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K
Power: Rosewill Capstone series 45OW 80 plus gold.
Graphics Card: Gforce GTX 680
keyboard: DAS Professional brown switches.
Case: ThermalTake Level 10 GT Battle Edition
Nyrius ARIES Prime Digital Wireless HDMI Transmitter & Receiver System for HD 1080p 3D Video
I'm working on building my computer and even tho this is like the 10th time i post the parts i want to know what would you change on this my budget is 2000 dollars i would still like to get another monitor that is not for gaming but photoshop and video editing.
The computer is mainly going to be use for streaming movies to my tv games photoshop/video editing
also how much of a difference would 16 gb of ram make instead of 8
thanks in advance
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Hello everyone. Here is my budget gaming/streaming build. I only play starcraft 2 and am only really looking to play on medium to high settings. I think I finally have my parts picked out. I am picking the AMD ii phenom x4 Black Edition Cpu b/c it is a great value and I need a new set up DESPERATELY! I am looking to stream at 480p and my main concern is will this build do it?
CPU- AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Deneb 3.4GHz Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor
MOBO- BIOSTAR A880GZ AM3+ AMD 880G SATA 6Gb/s HDMI Micro ATX AMD Motherboard
GPU- MSI R6770-MD1GD5 Radeon HD 6770 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card
PSU- CORSAIR Builder Series CX500 500W ATX12V v2.3 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply
RAM- Kingston 2GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 Desktop Memory STD Height 30mm Model KVR16N11H/2
HDD- Seagate Barracuda ST500DM002 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
CASE- Rosewill CHALLENGER Black Gaming ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
DVD- SAMSUNG DVD Burner SATA Model SH-224BB - OEM
With monitor windows 7 and shipping i am at 598 right now on newegg with codes and everything. I am using newegg b/c i have a line of credit. I would upgrade the gpu if it would make a big difference and ik that an i5 is better for the money but i really need the value of this current build,
What could be improved at this value?
I want to stream at 480p and could this build do that?
What settings could i play sc2 at?
Thanks guys!
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On January 24 2013 12:02 Alryk wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2013 11:38 SoulWager wrote:On January 24 2013 10:22 -bambi- wrote:
Hey Everyone,
My parents' computer recently died, so they are looking to get a new one right away. This computer would be used a lot, but not for anything incredibly graphics intensive. I've built a PC before so I have a general idea of what I need, but I'm not completely sure what's necessary and would like the price to be as low as possible. Answers to question in the OP are:
-Budget: $600-800
-Resolution: 1080p
-Usage:
Family computer, not much gaming at all. Some video editing/transcoding
-Upgrade Cycle: Fairly long, 4 years?
-Building it ASAP
-Overclocking if budget allows it
-Already have OS
-No SLI
-Buying parts from NCIX
I'd really like to include an SSD if possible. My current PC has one and it makes a world of difference. As mentioned above, the only CPU or graphics intensive thing being done would be video editing. Right now I'm mainly debating between an i3 and i5. I imagine the i5 is significantly better for video editing/transcoding but I'm not sure how much.
Any suggestions/help would be great!
Here's a matx build, I didn't include a video card because integrated graphics sounds powerful enough for what you're doing, but if you want to game on it you can add one later. PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / BenchmarksCPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Microcenter) CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 76.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.98 @ Amazon) Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Pro4-M Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($109.99 @ Amazon) Memory: Patriot Viper 3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($38.50 @ NCIX US) Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.99 @ NCIX US) Storage: Samsung 830 Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($112.98 @ Newegg) Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($39.99 @ NCIX US) Power Supply: Antec 450W ATX12V Power Supply ($30.95 @ NCIX US) Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224BB DVD/CD Writer ($15.99 @ Newegg) Total: $628.36 (Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-23 21:32 EST-0500) Edit: Ninja'd Bambi, You mentioned overclocking if budget allows it, but do your parents know enough about computers to overclock? If not, an i5-3570 + B75 motherboard is probably enough. Also, isn't the Z77 Pro3 a better generic choice? A hyper 212+ won't fit in a fractal design core 1000. I believe 92mm fan towers are the max height. Either way, I wouldn't overclock in one; it's a pretty small case (source me; I have one). Plenty of cases have been discussed in the past page though. + Show Spoiler +And a Samsung 840 is cheaper and better than the 830 (which has been discontinued anyways). And get a different power supply I think? I think Antec Neo Eco 400W is 1) better and 2) 30$ with free shipping on newegg ( link) and 3) more than enough, especially because there isn't a GPU. Double edit: Oops. You're in canada. I spoilered out my irrelevant advice, although the 840 is still better than an 830, and probably cheaper? The advice is still relevant if you can still find the parts from ncix though I guess.
Thanks guys,
Everything seems to be a little more expensive on the Canadian NCIX, but still not too bad. You're right that my parents won't want to OC anything, but I'll be home in Feb and I'll just set up the computer then. The other power supply that I was looking at was the CX430, but I remember reading something about coil whine on the last few pages. Not sure if that is a deal breaker or not, but it's about the same price as the Antec.
I haven't decided between ATX and mATX yet, are there any good mATX cases that would fit the Hyper212? If not it's probably not a big deal since the old computer was sitting under a desk and mainly out of sight. As far as ATX mobos go, is there any reason not to get this one: http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=74287&promoid=1338 ?
I picked it out mainly for the price, and I can't see why it wouldn't be enough.
I'm not sure if it's really necessary, but I might go with something like a HD7770 over the integrated graphics just in case it is ever needed.
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On January 24 2013 13:51 ImANinjaBich wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Hello everyone. Here is my budget gaming/streaming build. I only play starcraft 2 and am only really looking to play on medium to high settings. I think I finally have my parts picked out. I am picking the AMD ii phenom x4 Black Edition Cpu b/c it is a great value and I need a new set up DESPERATELY! I am looking to stream at 480p and my main concern is will this build do it?
CPU- AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Deneb 3.4GHz Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor
MOBO- BIOSTAR A880GZ AM3+ AMD 880G SATA 6Gb/s HDMI Micro ATX AMD Motherboard
GPU- MSI R6770-MD1GD5 Radeon HD 6770 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card
PSU- CORSAIR Builder Series CX500 500W ATX12V v2.3 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply
RAM- Kingston 2GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 Desktop Memory STD Height 30mm Model KVR16N11H/2
HDD- Seagate Barracuda ST500DM002 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
CASE- Rosewill CHALLENGER Black Gaming ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
DVD- SAMSUNG DVD Burner SATA Model SH-224BB - OEM
With monitor windows 7 and shipping i am at 598 right now on newegg with codes and everything. I am using newegg b/c i have a line of credit. I would upgrade the gpu if it would make a big difference and ik that an i5 is better for the money but i really need the value of this current build,
What could be improved at this value?
I want to stream at 480p and could this build do that?
What settings could i play sc2 at?
Thanks guys!
Even though you're going budget CPU I'd still get Intel. The i3-3220, which is the Intel Ivy Bridge at the same price point (and if you're near a MC you can get the mobo deal), performs better and future-proofs better than the AMD. If you're not looking to overclock, go with a similarly priced H77 or B75 Intel mobo.
You'll probably want a little more RAM, even for a budget build, I'd get at least 4Gb (2x2) -- it's dirt cheap anyway.
I think that will set up better for the long run, but I know a little less than some of the blues here that will probably also comment.
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On January 24 2013 13:41 nichan wrote:
Monitor: ASUS PA248Q 24-Inch LED-Lit Super-IPS
hard drive: WD green 2TB
SSD: Samsung electronics 840 pro series
Memory: Corsair vengeance 8 GB
Cooler: CoolerMaster Hyper 212 EVO
Mother board: AS Rock LGA 1155 DDR3
CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K
Power: Rosewill Capstone series 45OW 80 plus gold.
Graphics Card: Gforce GTX 680
keyboard: DAS Professional brown switches.
Case: ThermalTake Level 10 GT Battle Edition
Nyrius ARIES Prime Digital Wireless HDMI Transmitter & Receiver System for HD 1080p 3D Video
I'm working on building my computer and even tho this is like the 10th time i post the parts i want to know what would you change on this my budget is 2000 dollars i would still like to get another monitor that is not for gaming but photoshop and video editing.
The computer is mainly going to be use for streaming movies to my tv games photoshop/video editing
also how much of a difference would 16 gb of ram make instead of 8
thanks in advance
Green drive is 5400 rpm, which is godawful, no? If you're going for a $2000 build you may as well get a 7200 rpm for your old style hard drive. Also isn't a 450W power supply a bit cutting it close for those parts?
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On January 24 2013 18:50 EtherealDeath wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2013 13:41 nichan wrote:
Monitor: ASUS PA248Q 24-Inch LED-Lit Super-IPS
hard drive: WD green 2TB
SSD: Samsung electronics 840 pro series
Memory: Corsair vengeance 8 GB
Cooler: CoolerMaster Hyper 212 EVO
Mother board: AS Rock LGA 1155 DDR3
CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K
Power: Rosewill Capstone series 45OW 80 plus gold.
Graphics Card: Gforce GTX 680
keyboard: DAS Professional brown switches.
Case: ThermalTake Level 10 GT Battle Edition
Nyrius ARIES Prime Digital Wireless HDMI Transmitter & Receiver System for HD 1080p 3D Video
I'm working on building my computer and even tho this is like the 10th time i post the parts i want to know what would you change on this my budget is 2000 dollars i would still like to get another monitor that is not for gaming but photoshop and video editing.
The computer is mainly going to be use for streaming movies to my tv games photoshop/video editing
also how much of a difference would 16 gb of ram make instead of 8
thanks in advance Green drive is 5400 rpm, which is godawful, no? If you're going for a $2000 build you may as well get a 7200 rpm for your old style hard drive. Also isn't a 450W power supply a bit cutting it close for those parts?
A capstone is better than most ~550 watt models, and the build will never come close to drawing 450 watts (300 maybe with synthetic stuff, worst case scenario), regardless of the fact that the powersupply is capable of supplying like 550 watts iirc, just not at gold efficiency levels. Agree on the 5400rpm drive though, random I/O is much slower on the slower drives (not linear with relation to drive speed).
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On January 24 2013 13:51 ImANinjaBich wrote:
Hello everyone. Here is my budget gaming/streaming build. I only play starcraft 2 and am only really looking to play on medium to high settings. I think I finally have my parts picked out. I am picking the AMD ii phenom x4 Black Edition Cpu b/c it is a great value and I need a new set up DESPERATELY! I am looking to stream at 480p and my main concern is will this build do it?
CPU- AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Deneb 3.4GHz Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor
MOBO- BIOSTAR A880GZ AM3+ AMD 880G SATA 6Gb/s HDMI Micro ATX AMD Motherboard
GPU- MSI R6770-MD1GD5 Radeon HD 6770 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card
PSU- CORSAIR Builder Series CX500 500W ATX12V v2.3 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply
RAM- Kingston 2GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 Desktop Memory STD Height 30mm Model KVR16N11H/2
HDD- Seagate Barracuda ST500DM002 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
CASE- Rosewill CHALLENGER Black Gaming ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
DVD- SAMSUNG DVD Burner SATA Model SH-224BB - OEM
With monitor windows 7 and shipping i am at 598 right now on newegg with codes and everything. I am using newegg b/c i have a line of credit. I would upgrade the gpu if it would make a big difference and ik that an i5 is better for the money but i really need the value of this current build,
What could be improved at this value?
I want to stream at 480p and could this build do that?
What settings could i play sc2 at?
Thanks guys!
Depends how smooth you want the game to run, some don't find overclocked ivy bridge builds 'smooth' when they stream, because of how capture fucks with everything. If you posted prices, the regulars would be able to save you money more easily. 2gb might be an issue for streaming, I'd get four to be on the safe side. Apart from that, meh, the x4 is probably better than the i3 if you want to stream, but if you're only doing 480p the i3 could possibly give you better performance for a similar cost. Certainly for 720p I'd take the x4 over the i3.
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So, I'm thinking about buying something in a couple days. Not sure on a max but lets say 750 including a monitor. I'll mostly be playing LoL and Sc2 (Not very demanding games). I want something that will be able to max these out. I'm thinking about streaming gameplay so I'd like to be able to play on max while streaming. Help please!
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On January 24 2013 14:09 -bambi- wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On January 24 2013 12:02 Alryk wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2013 11:38 SoulWager wrote:On January 24 2013 10:22 -bambi- wrote:
Hey Everyone,
My parents' computer recently died, so they are looking to get a new one right away. This computer would be used a lot, but not for anything incredibly graphics intensive. I've built a PC before so I have a general idea of what I need, but I'm not completely sure what's necessary and would like the price to be as low as possible. Answers to question in the OP are:
-Budget: $600-800
-Resolution: 1080p
-Usage:
Family computer, not much gaming at all. Some video editing/transcoding
-Upgrade Cycle: Fairly long, 4 years?
-Building it ASAP
-Overclocking if budget allows it
-Already have OS
-No SLI
-Buying parts from NCIX
I'd really like to include an SSD if possible. My current PC has one and it makes a world of difference. As mentioned above, the only CPU or graphics intensive thing being done would be video editing. Right now I'm mainly debating between an i3 and i5. I imagine the i5 is significantly better for video editing/transcoding but I'm not sure how much.
Any suggestions/help would be great!
Here's a matx build, I didn't include a video card because integrated graphics sounds powerful enough for what you're doing, but if you want to game on it you can add one later. PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / BenchmarksCPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Microcenter) CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 76.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.98 @ Amazon) Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Pro4-M Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($109.99 @ Amazon) Memory: Patriot Viper 3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($38.50 @ NCIX US) Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.99 @ NCIX US) Storage: Samsung 830 Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($112.98 @ Newegg) Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($39.99 @ NCIX US) Power Supply: Antec 450W ATX12V Power Supply ($30.95 @ NCIX US) Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224BB DVD/CD Writer ($15.99 @ Newegg) Total: $628.36 (Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-23 21:32 EST-0500) Edit: Ninja'd Bambi, You mentioned overclocking if budget allows it, but do your parents know enough about computers to overclock? If not, an i5-3570 + B75 motherboard is probably enough. Also, isn't the Z77 Pro3 a better generic choice? A hyper 212+ won't fit in a fractal design core 1000. I believe 92mm fan towers are the max height. Either way, I wouldn't overclock in one; it's a pretty small case (source me; I have one). Plenty of cases have been discussed in the past page though. + Show Spoiler +And a Samsung 840 is cheaper and better than the 830 (which has been discontinued anyways). And get a different power supply I think? I think Antec Neo Eco 400W is 1) better and 2) 30$ with free shipping on newegg ( link) and 3) more than enough, especially because there isn't a GPU. Double edit: Oops. You're in canada. I spoilered out my irrelevant advice, although the 840 is still better than an 830, and probably cheaper? The advice is still relevant if you can still find the parts from ncix though I guess. Thanks guys, Everything seems to be a little more expensive on the Canadian NCIX, but still not too bad. You're right that my parents won't want to OC anything, but I'll be home in Feb and I'll just set up the computer then. The other power supply that I was looking at was the CX430, but I remember reading something about coil whine on the last few pages. Not sure if that is a deal breaker or not, but it's about the same price as the Antec. I haven't decided between ATX and mATX yet, are there any good mATX cases that would fit the Hyper212? If not it's probably not a big deal since the old computer was sitting under a desk and mainly out of sight. As far as ATX mobos go, is there any reason not to get this one: http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=74287&promoid=1338 ? I picked it out mainly for the price, and I can't see why it wouldn't be enough. I'm not sure if it's really necessary, but I might go with something like a HD7770 over the integrated graphics just in case it is ever needed.
Recommended parts for the US and Canada differ because our component pricing and availability is slightly different. For example, Asrock is good choice in the US but typically not in Canada.
Samsung 840 Pro and overclocking with a 3570k is unnecessary but okay. I'd just skip the overclocking and save ~$60 if I were you.
XFX Core Edition 450 is better for only $5 more then the VP450, basically same price after mail in rebate.
Fractal Design Define Mini is nice for $80, Arc Mini is $10 less if you want something less expensive. There's less expensive options than those two but those are the ones that come to mind.
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I really need your help.
I'm planning on buying in 2 weeks.
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What is your budget?
My budget is €800.
What is your resolution?
I play on 1980x1020. I have a 27'' monitor.
What are you using it for?
Only gaming.
I want a machine that can run at max settings with 60fps.
What is your upgrade cycle?
2+ years.
When do you plan on building it?
In 2 weeks time.
Do you plan on overclocking?
No.
Do you need an Operating System?
Yes,I need win7.
Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
No.
Where are you buying your parts from?
I live in Republic of Ireland.
Sites that i know of which will ship to me are:
// Amazon.co.uk // Scan.co.uk // Dabs.ie //
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Hey everyone!
I've been thinking about this for a while and I've finally decided to build a computer and I'm a total noob. So far I've been gaming on my 2010 macbook pro in windows 7, which by all means works excellently, but you can't expect anything above the lowest graphics, and some games are ruled out completely.
I'm about to spend about $1200 on the build because I want it to be rather beefy and I would like to ask a few question before finalizing it. I'm going to run a rather slow upgrade cycle as far as I can tell today.
Regarding the part choices I've mainly looked for good reviews and at popular streamers' builds.
These are the parts. Prices are from inet.se and have been converted from SEK.
MB: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 $180
CPU: Intel i5 3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4 Ghz $280
GPU: EVGA GeForce GTX 660Ti 2048MB $370
Memory: Corsair 8GB (2x4096MB) CL9 1600Mhz VENGEANCE LP Red $53
Hard drive: 1TB Seagate/Samsung Barracuda 7200rpm $96
Case: Fractal Design Arc Black $115
PSU: Fractal Design Integra R2 500W 80+ Bronze $84
Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO $44
The motherboard seems adequate and not too expensive. Got a good amount of slots and connections and should last me a while. Also supports multiple GPUs.
Frankly, I can't really tell the difference between various GPUs. Ideally I'd like to run high if not the highest graphics in various modern games, including Planetside 2. I will be running a single 1920x1080 monitor initially but might very well get a second one as I've gotten used to having the laptop screen in addition to the main one. I do have money to burn on a more expensive card but I can't tell if it's worth it. The GTX 660Ti seems alright to me and I can definitely live with playing on slightly lower graphics (I certainly have so far).
I would also like to stream, which AFAIK is mostly up to the CPU. This one is the beefiest i5 so it should be sufficient.
Memory-wise I'm thinking why not go for 8 Gb. It's not very expensive and it's nice to be able to keep programs/tabs open for a while.
I was thinking of getting an SSD in addition to the 1TB for storage but it didn't seem to me to be worth it. $150 for faster loading times? I can live without it. I did go for a high-ish RPM drive however.
(Also: god damn storage is cheap these days)
I've heard good things about the Fractal case regarding airflow and cable management, and as far as I can tell it's good looking too, and not very expensive.
The PSU is from Fractal as well. Again I looked for good reviews and this one seems adequate. Quiet, sleeved cables and affordable.
Regarding the cooler I've really got no idea. I intend to OC the i5 at least a little bit (I see some people going to 4.5 like it's nothing, but that seems like a lot), and I suppose it just makes me feel better to see the CPU running cool. They don't seem to cost a lot either. This cooler has got good reviews and seems to do its' job.
Final question/TLDR: (perhaps only question if everything seems alright)
Do I need to buy anything more than this? Like cables and the like? Cooling paste? I've really got no idea what usually comes with the parts when you order. I noticed you can buy certain hard drives with or without SATA-cables so I made sure to look for the ones that sell with cables.
Also is there anything I should remember when assembling it, or perhaps there's a convenient guide somewhere? For example I don't want to fry a circuit with static electricity or anything stupid like that.
I'm feeling pretty confident about the assembly (being able to fit pegs into holes and all that) but I don't want to do anything stupid and thought I'd ask here just in case. Any help would be very appreciated!
Thanks in advance, and I apologize for wall of text.
Doombox
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On January 25 2013 03:53 DoomBox wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Hey everyone!
I've been thinking about this for a while and I've finally decided to build a computer and I'm a total noob. So far I've been gaming on my 2010 macbook pro in windows 7, which by all means works excellently, but you can't expect anything above the lowest graphics, and some games are ruled out completely.
I'm about to spend about $1200 on the build because I want it to be rather beefy and I would like to ask a few question before finalizing it. I'm going to run a rather slow upgrade cycle as far as I can tell today.
Regarding the part choices I've mainly looked for good reviews and at popular streamers' builds.
These are the parts. Prices are from inet.se and have been converted from SEK.
MB: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 $180
CPU: Intel i5 3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4 Ghz $280
GPU: EVGA GeForce GTX 660Ti 2048MB $370
Memory: Corsair 8GB (2x4096MB) CL9 1600Mhz VENGEANCE LP Red $53
Hard drive: 1TB Seagate/Samsung Barracuda 7200rpm $96
Case: Fractal Design Arc Black $115
PSU: Fractal Design Integra R2 500W 80+ Bronze $84
Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO $44
The motherboard seems adequate and not too expensive. Got a good amount of slots and connections and should last me a while. Also supports multiple GPUs.
Frankly, I can't really tell the difference between various GPUs. Ideally I'd like to run high if not the highest graphics in various modern games, including Planetside 2. I will be running a single 1920x1080 monitor initially but might very well get a second one as I've gotten used to having the laptop screen in addition to the main one. I do have money to burn on a more expensive card but I can't tell if it's worth it. The GTX 660Ti seems alright to me and I can definitely live with playing on slightly lower graphics (I certainly have so far).
I would also like to stream, which AFAIK is mostly up to the CPU. This one is the beefiest i5 so it should be sufficient.
Memory-wise I'm thinking why not go for 8 Gb. It's not very expensive and it's nice to be able to keep programs/tabs open for a while.
I was thinking of getting an SSD in addition to the 1TB for storage but it didn't seem to me to be worth it. $150 for faster loading times? I can live without it. I did go for a high-ish RPM drive however.
(Also: god damn storage is cheap these days)
I've heard good things about the Fractal case regarding airflow and cable management, and as far as I can tell it's good looking too, and not very expensive.
The PSU is from Fractal as well. Again I looked for good reviews and this one seems adequate. Quiet, sleeved cables and affordable.
Regarding the cooler I've really got no idea. I intend to OC the i5 at least a little bit (I see some people going to 4.5 like it's nothing, but that seems like a lot), and I suppose it just makes me feel better to see the CPU running cool. They don't seem to cost a lot either. This cooler has got good reviews and seems to do its' job.
Final question/TLDR: (perhaps only question if everything seems alright)
Do I need to buy anything more than this? Like cables and the like? Cooling paste? I've really got no idea what usually comes with the parts when you order. I noticed you can buy certain hard drives with or without SATA-cables so I made sure to look for the ones that sell with cables.
Also is there anything I should remember when assembling it, or perhaps there's a convenient guide somewhere? For example I don't want to fry a circuit with static electricity or anything stupid like that.
I'm feeling pretty confident about the assembly (being able to fit pegs into holes and all that) but I don't want to do anything stupid and thought I'd ask here just in case. Any help would be very appreciated!
Thanks in advance, and I apologize for wall of text.
Doombox
Thermal paste is included with the heatsink.
SATA cables are included with the motherboard so there is really no point to getting a retail HDD as opposed to OEM. All you get is a cable, manual, and maybe some software. 7200 RPM is standard for desktop HDDs.
XFX Core Edition 550 is better but it's out of stock. Not sure which reviews you read but the Fractal Design unit you have selected is a really poor unit so I wouldn't pick it.
Hardwarecanucks and Newegg both have PC assembly guides on Youtube.
If you haven't already then you should take a look at various GPU reviews (eg. http://www.anandtech.com/show/6276 ). A GTX 660 is $100 less expensive than the 660 Ti and typically comes pretty close to it in terms of performance.
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Hey guys,
I'm putting together a build soon with some money I've saved from my second job and would greatly appreciate any input or advice. I have built many computers before, but none in the last 7 years. Right now I am thinking the following,
i5 3470
AMD 7850 1gb
Micro-ATX B75 mobo
8gb 1600
120gb SSD
Micro-ATX Case w/ 120mm intake/exhaust
450w Antec PSU
USB wireless adapter
One thing I was wondering was whether an i3 + 7770 combo would actually be enough power for me. Other than SC I don't plan to do much hardware intensive work, but I do plan on using the machine for 4-5 years. Mini-ITX is something I'm interested in too, since I move a lot for work.
In the spoiler I have answered all of the standard questions.
Thanks for your comments!
EDIT: I already have SSD. http://pcpartpicker.com/p/zoh7
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What is your budget?
600 USD
What is your resolution?
1920x1080
What are you using it for?
Mostly gaming: Starcraft 2 is my main focus, but I would like to have the option of playing other stuff. Photoshop will be used on the machine. I may rip DVDs.
What is your upgrade cycle?
4-5 years.
When do you plan on building it?
Next two weeks.
Do you plan on overclocking?
Not unless it saves money or is extremely reliable. In short, no.
Do you need an Operating System?
No. Provided through university.
Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
Not initially, most likely not in the next few years either.
Where are you buying your parts from?
Usually from Newegg, but I have amazon prime. I am not near a microcenter, but have family near one who could purchase a CPU and send it to me for reimbursement.
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Yo guys im thinking about to buy a new comp that can run games like flight simulator X rock solid and other games ofc
And im thinking about this one what you think ?
Intel® Core™ i7-3820 4x3.60GHz (Turbo 3.80GHz) 10MB cache
Ram - Kingston HyperX 16 GB DDR3-1600 PnP (QuadChannel)
Graphic card - EVGA GeForce GTX680 2GB GDDR5
windows 7 or windows 8??
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