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I have to be honest, I never BM unless someone says something; even then it is probably a manner mule or questioning why someone needs to get a rise out of someone in Sc2. But I rarely GG - mainly out of frustration that I could have played better. I only GG when it is actually a Good Game; perhaps my manners aren't up to par.
Nonetheless, I find it frustrating if I have several builds over the course of a few hours and I hit barcodes. Some barcodes are different whereas some I've played before. I hit 2 barcodes that knew my build order (btw I have many) but we had the same map. I knew they were the same players based off their build order and demeanor at the end of the game.
I'm not a pro and occasionally get GM...but mainly mid-M1. I don't GG these people - in fact, I tell them to get a name. Should you GG a non-pro, casual game on ladder?
Poll: Should you GG a MID-LEVEL BarcodeYes (187) 69% No (53) 20% I'm Indifferent (31) 11% 271 total votes Your vote: Should you GG a MID-LEVEL Barcode (Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): I'm Indifferent
EDIT (10/5): I've started to GG after 90% of my games (even after a bane bust!). It makes me feel better internally, I guess, like I'm the better person taking the high road even after they BM me...it just seems wrong. I'm still committed to believe barcodes create a disproportionate advantage on build order based off long-term gameplay in their region/class. This game is aging so there are less players: It is more likely you will hit the same player multiple times in a night so the likelihood they know your style (or build order) is higher.
Maybe if we had 1M+ players simultaneously like CoD or Forenite this wouldn't be a thread or a concern. But the community is not as high as the other larger games, but that doesn't diminish the importance.
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You should always gg even vs AI
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On October 03 2020 21:05 DiMano wrote:
You should always gg even vs AI
Agreed. AI always gg's you.
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I can t believe this ethical question is so important for you, players...
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Northern Ireland26223 Posts
GG to me is the equivalent of the handshake after a match, just a civil convention that is the default unless your opponent has done something egregious.
I wouldn’t consider doing a barcode necessarily in that vein, although lower level players using them goes against what I consider the spirit of barcodes being used, namely to prevent notable top players getting sniped and letting them practice in more blind conditions
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Bisutopia19300 Posts
I always glhf and gg everyone. Just have fun and do your thing. I want my opponents to know I'm having so much fun that it doesn't matter what builds they throw at me.
I also think being friendly right at the start will make players cheese you less. And if they don't glhf back, then 100% assume you are being cheesed lol.
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On October 03 2020 21:07 Vision_ wrote:
I can t believe this ethical question is so important for you, players...
It's not ethics; you'd would be surprised how many people think it is a personal "slight" to not GG; regardless of name. I'm literally messaged after games saying "why no GG". Do you play often?
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what an absolutely bizarre question
yes always gg, every game, it's always been a Starcraft staple and there is no need to come up with random conditions for it 20 years later
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On October 03 2020 21:18 BisuDagger wrote:
I always glhf and gg everyone. Just have fun and do your thing. I want my opponents to know I'm having so much fun that it doesn't matter what builds they throw at me.
I also think being friendly right at the start will make players cheese you less. And if they don't glhf back, then 100% assume you are being cheesed lol.
lol the psychology is too much 
Mind games over glhf!!!
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On October 03 2020 21:16 WombaT wrote:
GG to me is the equivalent of the handshake after a match, just a civil convention that is the default unless your opponent has done something egregious.
I wouldn’t consider doing a barcode necessarily in that vein, although lower level players using them goes against what I consider the spirit of barcodes being used, namely to prevent notable top players getting sniped and letting them practice in more blind conditions
Right, but the poll was mid-level. You can see they are mid-level by their W/L etc. It just seem pretentious and annoying, almost BM from the start. I consider Mid-level Barcodes right up there with an AI.
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On October 03 2020 21:22 pinky29 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2020 21:16 WombaT wrote:
GG to me is the equivalent of the handshake after a match, just a civil convention that is the default unless your opponent has done something egregious.
I wouldn’t consider doing a barcode necessarily in that vein, although lower level players using them goes against what I consider the spirit of barcodes being used, namely to prevent notable top players getting sniped and letting them practice in more blind conditions Right, but the poll was mid-level. You can see they are mid-level by their W/L etc. It just seem pretentious and annoying, almost BM from the start. I consider Mid-level Barcodes right up there with an AI.
Also, note. This OP is not about someone going 25-1 making it to the top. It is a player in M1 or M2 that is 120-118 etc.
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On October 03 2020 21:18 Sorusaba wrote:
what an absolutely bizarre question
yes always gg, every game, it's always been a Starcraft staple and there is no need to come up with random conditions for it 20 years later
What? I've played this game since 2k? But WHY? Why GG against someone that doesn't even bother with a name and takes advantage of the fact they played you but you're not sure who they are? What conditions make you GG.
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I gg if they glhf'ed at the start. If they're on a barcode and they don't converse, clearly they just wanna focus and play and that is all that matters to them, so I won't give a gg.
I should say that I always glhf in the start.
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On October 03 2020 21:05 DiMano wrote:
You should always gg even vs AI A.I saying gg is exactly why I stopped doing it. Seems redundant.
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Why does it matter whether you GG or not? The important thing is that after losing you feel the urge to tell a barcode to get a name. As if somehow their barcode affects the way you play and enjoy the game. They enjoy the gamethe way they want to enjoy, why does it impact you so much?
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On October 03 2020 20:22 pinky29 wrote:
I have to be honest, I never BM unless someone says something
That's funny, on May 9th you wrote:
Again, I'm not perfect and said insults to players in retrospect I probably didn't mean or have been rude
I guess it is unsurprising that a condescending, overly presumptive person lacking self-awareness consistently makes slanted threads trying to garner support for their own lack of GM. It's clear that regardless of what the polls or replies say, you are set in your ways, so what do threads like this accomplish - what is the goal here?
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ALLEYCAT BLUES50600 Posts
to quote Orson Welles.
Yes, always.
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barcode is an advantage lost through choosing a name
barcode has never been a starcraft staple the way gg has
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On October 03 2020 20:22 pinky29 wrote:I have to be honest, I never BM unless someone says something; even then it is probably a manner mule or questioning why someone needs to get a rise out of someone in Sc2. But I rarely GG - mainly out of frustration that I could have played better. I only GG when it is actually a Good Game; perhaps my manners aren't up to par. Nonetheless, I find it frustrating if I have several builds over the course of a few hours and I hit barcodes. Some barcodes are different whereas some I've played before. I hit 2 barcodes that knew my build order (btw I have many) but we had the same map. I knew they were the same players based off their build order and demeanor at the end of the game. I'm not a pro and occasionally get GM...but mainly mid-M1. I don't GG these people - in fact, I tell them to get a name. Should you GG a non-pro, casual game on ladder? Poll: Should you GG a MID-LEVEL BarcodeYes (187) 69% No (53) 20% I'm Indifferent (31) 11% 271 total votes Your vote: Should you GG a MID-LEVEL Barcode (Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): I'm Indifferent
most middle level barcodes are assholes themselves, i noticed that a lot, they talk trash and are bm in general. Lost to some cheezer toss 5.1k barcode, didnt gg, he start spamming me in private, they feel so pro bc they use barcodes..
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