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Should You GG A Barcode?

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pinky29
Profile Joined January 2019
57 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-05 06:52:05
October 03 2020 11:22 GMT
#1
I have to be honest, I never BM unless someone says something; even then it is probably a manner mule or questioning why someone needs to get a rise out of someone in Sc2. But I rarely GG - mainly out of frustration that I could have played better. I only GG when it is actually a Good Game; perhaps my manners aren't up to par.

Nonetheless, I find it frustrating if I have several builds over the course of a few hours and I hit barcodes. Some barcodes are different whereas some I've played before. I hit 2 barcodes that knew my build order (btw I have many) but we had the same map. I knew they were the same players based off their build order and demeanor at the end of the game.

I'm not a pro and occasionally get GM...but mainly mid-M1. I don't GG these people - in fact, I tell them to get a name. Should you GG a non-pro, casual game on ladder?

Poll: Should you GG a MID-LEVEL Barcode

Yes (187)
 
69%

No (53)
 
20%

I'm Indifferent (31)
 
11%

271 total votes

Your vote: Should you GG a MID-LEVEL Barcode

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): I'm Indifferent




EDIT (10/5): I've started to GG after 90% of my games (even after a bane bust!). It makes me feel better internally, I guess, like I'm the better person taking the high road even after they BM me...it just seems wrong. I'm still committed to believe barcodes create a disproportionate advantage on build order based off long-term gameplay in their region/class. This game is aging so there are less players: It is more likely you will hit the same player multiple times in a night so the likelihood they know your style (or build order) is higher.

Maybe if we had 1M+ players simultaneously like CoD or Forenite this wouldn't be a thread or a concern. But the community is not as high as the other larger games, but that doesn't diminish the importance.
DiMano
Profile Joined July 2011
Korea (South)2066 Posts
October 03 2020 12:05 GMT
#2
You should always gg even vs AI
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
October 03 2020 12:06 GMT
#3
On October 03 2020 21:05 DiMano wrote:
You should always gg even vs AI


Agreed. AI always gg's you.
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Vision_
Profile Joined September 2018
861 Posts
October 03 2020 12:07 GMT
#4
I can t believe this ethical question is so important for you, players...
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25347 Posts
October 03 2020 12:16 GMT
#5
GG to me is the equivalent of the handshake after a match, just a civil convention that is the default unless your opponent has done something egregious.

I wouldn’t consider doing a barcode necessarily in that vein, although lower level players using them goes against what I consider the spirit of barcodes being used, namely to prevent notable top players getting sniped and letting them practice in more blind conditions
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MKStyles
Profile Joined April 2017
106 Posts
October 03 2020 12:17 GMT
#6
ofc not
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19240 Posts
October 03 2020 12:18 GMT
#7
I always glhf and gg everyone. Just have fun and do your thing. I want my opponents to know I'm having so much fun that it doesn't matter what builds they throw at me.

I also think being friendly right at the start will make players cheese you less. And if they don't glhf back, then 100% assume you are being cheesed lol.
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pinky29
Profile Joined January 2019
57 Posts
October 03 2020 12:18 GMT
#8
On October 03 2020 21:07 Vision_ wrote:
I can t believe this ethical question is so important for you, players...


It's not ethics; you'd would be surprised how many people think it is a personal "slight" to not GG; regardless of name. I'm literally messaged after games saying "why no GG". Do you play often?
Sorusaba
Profile Joined October 2017
276 Posts
October 03 2020 12:18 GMT
#9
what an absolutely bizarre question

yes always gg, every game, it's always been a Starcraft staple and there is no need to come up with random conditions for it 20 years later
pinky29
Profile Joined January 2019
57 Posts
October 03 2020 12:19 GMT
#10
On October 03 2020 21:18 BisuDagger wrote:
I always glhf and gg everyone. Just have fun and do your thing. I want my opponents to know I'm having so much fun that it doesn't matter what builds they throw at me.

I also think being friendly right at the start will make players cheese you less. And if they don't glhf back, then 100% assume you are being cheesed lol.


lol the psychology is too much

Mind games over glhf!!!
pinky29
Profile Joined January 2019
57 Posts
October 03 2020 12:22 GMT
#11
On October 03 2020 21:16 WombaT wrote:
GG to me is the equivalent of the handshake after a match, just a civil convention that is the default unless your opponent has done something egregious.

I wouldn’t consider doing a barcode necessarily in that vein, although lower level players using them goes against what I consider the spirit of barcodes being used, namely to prevent notable top players getting sniped and letting them practice in more blind conditions


Right, but the poll was mid-level. You can see they are mid-level by their W/L etc. It just seem pretentious and annoying, almost BM from the start. I consider Mid-level Barcodes right up there with an AI.
pinky29
Profile Joined January 2019
57 Posts
October 03 2020 12:24 GMT
#12
On October 03 2020 21:22 pinky29 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2020 21:16 WombaT wrote:
GG to me is the equivalent of the handshake after a match, just a civil convention that is the default unless your opponent has done something egregious.

I wouldn’t consider doing a barcode necessarily in that vein, although lower level players using them goes against what I consider the spirit of barcodes being used, namely to prevent notable top players getting sniped and letting them practice in more blind conditions


Right, but the poll was mid-level. You can see they are mid-level by their W/L etc. It just seem pretentious and annoying, almost BM from the start. I consider Mid-level Barcodes right up there with an AI.


Also, note. This OP is not about someone going 25-1 making it to the top. It is a player in M1 or M2 that is 120-118 etc.
pinky29
Profile Joined January 2019
57 Posts
October 03 2020 12:29 GMT
#13
On October 03 2020 21:18 Sorusaba wrote:
what an absolutely bizarre question

yes always gg, every game, it's always been a Starcraft staple and there is no need to come up with random conditions for it 20 years later


What? I've played this game since 2k? But WHY? Why GG against someone that doesn't even bother with a name and takes advantage of the fact they played you but you're not sure who they are? What conditions make you GG.
ejozl
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark3386 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-03 12:51:17
October 03 2020 12:50 GMT
#14
I gg if they glhf'ed at the start. If they're on a barcode and they don't converse, clearly they just wanna focus and play and that is all that matters to them, so I won't give a gg.
I should say that I always glhf in the start.
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Weavel
Profile Joined January 2010
Finland9221 Posts
October 03 2020 12:56 GMT
#15
On October 03 2020 21:05 DiMano wrote:
You should always gg even vs AI
A.I saying gg is exactly why I stopped doing it. Seems redundant.
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Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
October 03 2020 12:57 GMT
#16
Why does it matter whether you GG or not? The important thing is that after losing you feel the urge to tell a barcode to get a name. As if somehow their barcode affects the way you play and enjoy the game. They enjoy the gamethe way they want to enjoy, why does it impact you so much?
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10154 Posts
October 03 2020 13:46 GMT
#17
On October 03 2020 20:22 pinky29 wrote:
I have to be honest, I never BM unless someone says something

That's funny, on May 9th you wrote:

Again, I'm not perfect and said insults to players in retrospect I probably didn't mean or have been rude


I guess it is unsurprising that a condescending, overly presumptive person lacking self-awareness consistently makes slanted threads trying to garner support for their own lack of GM. It's clear that regardless of what the polls or replies say, you are set in your ways, so what do threads like this accomplish - what is the goal here?
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
October 03 2020 13:57 GMT
#18
to quote Orson Welles.

Yes, always.
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mishimaBeef
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada2259 Posts
October 03 2020 14:18 GMT
#19
barcode is an advantage lost through choosing a name
barcode has never been a starcraft staple the way gg has
Dare to live the life you have dreamed for yourself. Go forward and make your dreams come true. - Ralph Waldo Emerson
skdsk
Profile Joined February 2019
138 Posts
October 03 2020 14:30 GMT
#20
On October 03 2020 20:22 pinky29 wrote:
I have to be honest, I never BM unless someone says something; even then it is probably a manner mule or questioning why someone needs to get a rise out of someone in Sc2. But I rarely GG - mainly out of frustration that I could have played better. I only GG when it is actually a Good Game; perhaps my manners aren't up to par.

Nonetheless, I find it frustrating if I have several builds over the course of a few hours and I hit barcodes. Some barcodes are different whereas some I've played before. I hit 2 barcodes that knew my build order (btw I have many) but we had the same map. I knew they were the same players based off their build order and demeanor at the end of the game.

I'm not a pro and occasionally get GM...but mainly mid-M1. I don't GG these people - in fact, I tell them to get a name. Should you GG a non-pro, casual game on ladder?

Poll: Should you GG a MID-LEVEL Barcode

Yes (187)
 
69%

No (53)
 
20%

I'm Indifferent (31)
 
11%

271 total votes

Your vote: Should you GG a MID-LEVEL Barcode

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): I'm Indifferent



most middle level barcodes are assholes themselves, i noticed that a lot, they talk trash and are bm in general. Lost to some cheezer toss 5.1k barcode, didnt gg, he start spamming me in private, they feel so pro bc they use barcodes..
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