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On October 04 2020 00:37 StaNi wrote: no gg no skill This. There's absolutely no reason to make a fuzz about whether one should gg or not. Just type those damn two (!) letters and move on. But the debate is as old as Starcraft. To me, "glhf" and "gg" are like brackets to a game. Code breaks without correctly set brackets.
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I always find this whole barcode hate thing absolutely ridiculous. Whenever I watch Rotti's stream and he goes on an autistic rant about why barcode players are the bane of his existence it's always pop-corn time. Especially funny since he seems like a rather chill guy, him having such a strong opinion about such a niche issue makes the whole thing all the more funny In a game where people will go at great lengths to hide which build order they're preparing for you and will resort to the most underhanded strategies for a few ladder point more, god forbid they use a barcode to make things slightly harder to read for their opponent.
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If you're running into a barcode below GM, they probably have zero reason to even have that barcode. They could be anybody. So I treat them with the same level of respect as any other opponent [gl hf -> gg].
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On October 03 2020 21:18 BisuDagger wrote: I always glhf and gg everyone. Just have fun and do your thing. I want my opponents to know I'm having so much fun that it doesn't matter what builds they throw at me.
I also think being friendly right at the start will make players cheese you less. And if they don't glhf back, then 100% assume you are being cheesed lol.
Nono it's when they just say "hf". Some interesting psychology there i'm sure. Probably something about feeling superior to your opponent so you don't have to dignify them with the full "gl hf" - or maybe being slightly ashamed? I don't know.. just think it's interesting.
Re the barcode thing.. even as a shit player i can understand wanting to play behind a barcode. I wouldn't want a game i played on a bad day to be immortalised on some youtube channel where the streamer's only job is to play starcraft and make jokes about other players.
I also think the gl hf and gg are mostly done for the person typing them and not the opponent. Like maybe the opponent is an asshole but why should you sink to that level?
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On October 04 2020 00:31 deacon.frost wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2020 23:53 Anc13nt wrote: there's nothing wrong with refusing to gg out of disappointment but I don't think you should call them out for being barcode because most barcodes only do it for anonymity, not for any gameplay advantage. Whatever advantage they are getting is pretty small and even smaller if you play standard. There are plenty of more annoying things like random and players who have no hope of winning but that is just my opinion.
I do think you might be overly concerned about BM/GM based on your posts. Honestly, it is not a big deal at all whether you are BM, GM or neither. I never understood people who were super offended by BM, personally.
WTF is GM in this sense? It won't be the usual grand master... Anyway, thanks to playing random and having to learn 6 matchups, also if you say hi, what race do you play - i answer it... what's wrong with randoms? Sure, my Terran brings my diamond ass very down so I don't have issues with winning with other races, but still...
sorry i meant good manner by gm lol
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Most ppl will say yes because it is the right thing to do but my philosophy is more about fairness than about kindness so I say don't do it but say something like "no name, no gg, fuck barcodes"
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Czech Republic12129 Posts
On October 04 2020 01:54 Anc13nt wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2020 00:31 deacon.frost wrote:On October 03 2020 23:53 Anc13nt wrote: there's nothing wrong with refusing to gg out of disappointment but I don't think you should call them out for being barcode because most barcodes only do it for anonymity, not for any gameplay advantage. Whatever advantage they are getting is pretty small and even smaller if you play standard. There are plenty of more annoying things like random and players who have no hope of winning but that is just my opinion.
I do think you might be overly concerned about BM/GM based on your posts. Honestly, it is not a big deal at all whether you are BM, GM or neither. I never understood people who were super offended by BM, personally.
WTF is GM in this sense? It won't be the usual grand master... Anyway, thanks to playing random and having to learn 6 matchups, also if you say hi, what race do you play - i answer it... what's wrong with randoms? Sure, my Terran brings my diamond ass very down so I don't have issues with winning with other races, but still... sorry i meant good manner by gm lol Ah, that makes sense but since msot people use it for grand master didn't connected the dots.
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On October 04 2020 02:02 shadow4723 wrote: Most ppl will say yes because it is the right thing to do but my philosophy is more about fairness than about kindness so I say don't do it but say something like "no name, no gg, fuck barcodes" sc2 'tism ladies and gentlemen
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Northern Ireland24818 Posts
On October 04 2020 02:45 9-BiT wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2020 02:02 shadow4723 wrote: Most ppl will say yes because it is the right thing to do but my philosophy is more about fairness than about kindness so I say don't do it but say something like "no name, no gg, fuck barcodes" sc2 'tism ladies and gentlemen A truly wondrous thing to behold.
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On October 03 2020 21:05 DiMano wrote: You should always gg even vs AI

If it helps you sleep better, don't gg. But to be bothered so much by this & looking for validation is funny.
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No. Barcodes are pure evil, never GG them...
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Czech Republic12129 Posts
Stop discriminating based on names, treat everyone the same. Either gg to everyone, or treat everyone like the biggest human waste. Don't you think you're better than discriminating barcodes! I say hate everyone equally!
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I'm curious the thoughts if Poker had barcodes for usernames.
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Mexico2170 Posts
I always GG except when:
1.-The enemy badmanners 2.-I lost due to luck 3.-He was a smurfer. 4.-He was a Random player cheesing.
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Recently I started to gg even if opponent BMs me (manner mule, offensive gg, "LEAVE" etc...). Somehow it feels like a small moral victory that I didn't let him tilt me. I know their goal is to make me rage-quit or BM them in return and I don't want to give them this satisfaction.
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Why do you think it is legit for a pro player to use barcode to hide his/her identity and not for amateurish players?
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I play random mainly. I have always wanted to lie about my race for fun, but never end up going through with it.
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On October 04 2020 07:49 greenturtle23 wrote: I play random mainly. I have always wanted to lie about my race for fun, but never end up going through with it.
People who ask me my race (when random) always pissed me off more than any barcode name ever could. I never lie to them, but I'm definitely not able to tell them to come scout me 100% of the time... I must not cheese enough.
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I GG every game as it's just the norm. They could be a cheesing barcode with BM but I rise above all that and just own my own actions.
I used to say glhf but tbh it's not needed for me, I prefer to just play in silence. I'll usually respond with a 'tyu2' if I get a 'glhf' purely just out of civility.
If I clearly see that they're a noob (I'm a low level bw player so sometimes get big mismatches) then I'll usually try talk a little with them and forward them onto some valuable resources to help them learn.
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Always GG. That one's on you, not them.
I guess it's kinda an old school 90s gamer mentality, since I don't see this very much shared with people that started gaming in the 2000s.
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