On April 08 2017 04:12 Charoisaur wrote: ... and now David Kim leaving sc2. This is a tough time to be an sc2 fan
I have never been more hopeful for SC2 than now.
I feel the same. A lot probably do. We can all respect the time the guy put in, but his approach to balancing was very, very flawed and not good for the game.
I love all of the brilliant contributory comments in this thread that are giving us fantastic ways to dismantle deathballs and fix all of the "gameplay" problems. Thanks for all the insight. Make sure to post all of your wonderful ideas on the Battlenet forums so that Blizzard will know how to fix this game in the future.
On April 09 2017 08:15 MiCroLiFe wrote: Great. Maybe terran can have a chance now? bring tankivac back! remove overcharge! 8 armor ultra need a proper counter
8 armor ultra doesn't exist anymore. They only have max 7 armor now.
peoples memory of him is really bad. but i think he had an impossible job (make millions of competitive ppl playing a videogame happy/somehow balance that with weird videogatme hermits who play 8 hrs a day and break the balance eveyr few months), i think he did pretty well in all honesty. people say he was too knee jerk against terran but honeslty terran was so fucking imbalance @ launch, so thats why he had to be that way. i was playing random at the time and it was wildly apparent to me
peoples memory of him is really bad. but i think he had an impossible job (make millions of competitive ppl playing a videogame happy/somehow balance that with weird videogatme hermits who play 8 hrs a day and break the balance eveyr few months), i think he did pretty well in all honesty. people say he was too knee jerk against terran but honeslty terran was so fucking imbalance @ launch, so thats why he had to be that way. i was playing random at the time and it was wildly apparent to me
true story. I have friends to this day complain about how IMBA Terran is. Given, they are only gold-ish, but they live in the perpetual WoL perception that stimmed marines still own this game and are imbalanced. Even though Terran is in it's worst spot in a long time right now :/
HFGL to David Kim. He did a good job with SC2 given how hostile and whiny people are towards him. He probably had the tough job at Blizzard. I'm sure whichever project has him now is very lucky!
I hope he will continue to support SC2 in some smaller capacity.
On April 09 2017 11:00 BigFan wrote: lol Idra, funny guy. Doubt he'll come to SCII though, I think he's done for good since what, HoTS?
IdrA was basically done at the start of HotS. He didn't finally quit until the end of 2013.
Yeah Incontrol said in a recent AMA that he was back in school and completely out of esports. He said he didnt want to be in the spotlight anymore and faded out. Would love to watch him stream even in a one-time stream because I really think he is a good guy deep down, easily frustrated and verbally toxic, but I'd like to think in person and in small groups he's chill.
On April 09 2017 12:27 ggrrg wrote: I am thrilled to know what project David Kim has moved on to. Let's just hope it is something exciting and not just another WoW expansion...
From the few hints there are, it sounds like it's a new game, and not an RTS. (Dayvie said the new project would help him grow as a game developer, so I don't think he'll be doing the same exact thing on a new RTS)
On April 09 2017 04:54 [PkF] Wire wrote: He certainly took the blame for mistakes a whole team was behind but I won't miss him at all. Most decisions and additions since HotS' launch were just abysmal.
He was in charge. "Lead Designer" had to mean something... the buck should have stopped with him. And if it didn't, then Blizzard is poorly run.
On April 08 2017 04:12 Charoisaur wrote: ... and now David Kim leaving sc2. This is a tough time to be an sc2 fan
I have never been more hopeful for SC2 than now.
this is a great position to have if you want to set yourself up for feeling indignant, angry, and offended in 6 months.
We never agree, but you can cry on my shoulder if you want. I know what it is like to have a game I love ripped out from under me; WOL was an amazing ride. If LOTV does good things for you and this changes that, I am sorry.
But I won't be angry or offended in 6 months.
SC2 will probably be the same, and I'll still be playing other games. But this is the first step necessary for it be something better.
i never understood the hate for david kim.. i only got the chance to speak with a few times on the ladder but he was always down to talk and seemed genuinely interested in the game (this was back in WOL, i went back to broodwar in mid 2012). I imagine that any hatred for him is just because he was the messenger, the people telling him HOW to balance the game (focusing on casuals) were probably much higher up than he was
I love this game you've worked so hard to help create and believe you've done a extraordinary job of balancing. I have always appreciated and respected the positive and candid feedback you've had with the community. I wish you the absolute best in your future project and look forward to it as well!