GOM switches free quality of GSL back to low - Page 7
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iGX
Australia414 Posts
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Penev
28431 Posts
On June 10 2015 17:46 KingAlphard wrote: So you are saying that the other tournaments runners aren't making money because they offer high quality for free. Ok. Then everyone is stupid and only GSL found the ultimate way to make big money off of tournaments. And, he's saying you're a child; Nice, isn't it? | ||
swissman777
1106 Posts
On June 10 2015 17:46 KingAlphard wrote: So you are saying that the other tournaments runners aren't making money because they offer high quality for free. Ok. Then everyone is stupid and only GSL found the ultimate way to make big money off of tournaments. If GSL goes out, then SSL can do exact same as GSL or worse. That's monopoly for you. | ||
imre
France9263 Posts
On June 10 2015 17:43 Alucen-Will- wrote: I'm not even sure why this is such a big issue honestly. Perhaps it speaks about the maturity level of the community that people complain about paying 5$ a month for a service as they would any other service in the world. At least understand that people need to be compensated for work, even if you dislike GOM. that's why you don't adblock their shitty ads in the middle of actual games. | ||
MChrome
Netherlands201 Posts
On June 10 2015 17:35 Orlok wrote: On twitch, it averages around 10,000 viewers and 15000 to 20000 in the finals or important matches. Korean viewership is really not at an all high level despite the current dip in popularity LOL has at the moment. GOMTV needs the money, and I firmly believe that instead of crapping about why its always low quality, its a bad business model, stuff that is obvious etc we should at least pity the once greatest SC2 tournament of all time hands down and try to support it in its time of crisis. Sure, I also dislike that there is a paywall for above MEDIUM quality, I also dislike the really awful casting Tasteosis has been showing recently. It will put off people who don't have the inclination or ability to monthly pay the amount needed. But no-one can deny that GSL has been the longest lasting, and the most loyal and epic tournament SC2 has had in its lifespan. Its had memorable moments and glorious experiences that no other tournament has and ever will. Lets try to save GSL one step at a time, and then after all the dust has cleared, we can start to make the steps necessary to ensure free HD quality, free vods and overall refurbishment of the tournament. We won't be able to complain about the GSL if it ceases to exist, and the prospect of perhaps NEVER being able to watch GSL again saddens me to no end. Trust me, If Korean vods and HD quality was behind a paywall, I would be thrusting my wallet towards them. People who can pay, lets pay instead of saying they should change for us, that their model is wrong. We know its wrong, so lets try to support them to the point where they can do things right. Hopefully no-one bashes this post. I am in no way saying that putting a steep paywall is right. I am merely trying to say lets support GOM if they're in a shitty spot. That's what passionate fans do, right? I think Blizzard needs to help out here in order to increase viewership. What you are suggesting is nice, but it's treating the symptoms, not the cause. I do hope Blizzard finally comes to their senses and makes SC2 multiplayer F2P (only charge for the SP part). That, and pull LOTV back just a bit from gimmicky MOBA casters to an actual RTS with fun units. | ||
SC2Toastie
Netherlands5725 Posts
On June 10 2015 17:47 Destructicon wrote: Man, I feel really sorry for the GSL and what they seem to be forced to do and can't help but feel it goes back to when Blizzard forced the Twitch partnership down their throat, ever since its been downhill. Exactly this. People are quick to point fingers at GSL being greedy, but after all, it's a company that was forced to abandon it's properly working system for Twitch.TV and all the flaws with it (terrible, loud, repetitive adds, stuttering, twitch chat) probably costing them in revenue. Afterwards, they were sort of abandoned with a poorly working system... At least SSL can stream on Azubu, which has higher quality, less stutter etc. | ||
Alucen-Will-
United States4054 Posts
On June 10 2015 17:46 KingAlphard wrote: So you are saying that the other tournaments runners aren't making money because they offer high quality for free. Ok. Then everyone is stupid and only GSL found the ultimate way to make big money off of tournaments. Considering that most tournaments run based off exposure and the revenue from sponsors, yes. Because Sc2 has lower viewership these days in all tournaments, fewer TO's are willing to hosts the game. GOM is just acknowledging this fact and must take this measure in order to cut losses. WCS is financially backed by blizzard and SPOTV is a Korean TV station who can afford to lose some money on an english broadcast. | ||
KelsierSC
United Kingdom10443 Posts
That actually sounds like a reasonable model. I can't really put into words why but it feels like a fair approach. | ||
xdevilx2
Germany38 Posts
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SC2Toastie
Netherlands5725 Posts
On June 10 2015 17:51 xdevilx2 wrote: If they struggle with money then I doubt that the few extra subs that they will get help. I mean thats maybe 200$ more? And were did you get those figures? | ||
neptunusfisk
2286 Posts
On June 10 2015 17:48 iGX wrote: The SC2 community really amazes me at times like these. For most of SC2's young life span, GSL was "The" league to follow and was immensely entertaining. But because of this, people are willing to let and even hoped GOM would die when they've done more than most entities out there so far. I always knew toxicity was part of most communities but some of the responses in this thread really takes it to a new level. GOM doesn't owe us anything and is it really THAT expensive to pay $8/month when you probably spent more on shit you don't even need? If they don't want us to watch, why watch? I'm glad they did what they did but now they seem to have given up. When they were the sole provider of KR starcraft, it was okay. Now we have S2SL, SPL, Kespa cup, WCS, IEM and DH providing similar or better content, with S2SL and SPL being the flagships of superb KR starcraft. | ||
deacon.frost
Czech Republic12125 Posts
On June 10 2015 17:51 KelsierSC wrote: I wonder if GSL will follow a pattern of offering Ro.16 & Ro.32 in free medium quality but when it reaches the important rounds they only offer low. That actually sounds like a reasonable model. I can't really put into words why but it feels like a fair approach. Don't know why it reminded me a "shady" guy offering you free try of his "good stuff" so you can then buy it when the proper time comes But yeah, it sounds good to me too. | ||
neptunusfisk
2286 Posts
On June 10 2015 17:50 SC2Toastie wrote: Exactly this. People are quick to point fingers at GSL being greedy, but after all, it's a company that was forced to abandon it's properly working system for Twitch.TV and all the flaws with it (terrible, loud, repetitive adds, stuttering, twitch chat) probably costing them in revenue. Afterwards, they were sort of abandoned with a poorly working system... At least SSL can stream on Azubu, which has higher quality, less stutter etc. Spotvs twitch streams are usually fine | ||
xdevilx2
Germany38 Posts
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Rollora
2450 Posts
On June 10 2015 17:45 RolyPoly~ wrote: how convenient for you that gom did this AFTER the ro16, cuz now you can blame it on protoss Actually last time they did this very early (after the very first games) and PvPvPvP was throughout all 2014, so I knew in advance "I don't pay for that" In case you didn't realize: I was refering to past broadcasts | ||
Noonius
Estonia17413 Posts
And furthermore, after seeing what quality free medium was, why the hell would I even pay for that now that it's gonna be behind the paywall again | ||
KelsierSC
United Kingdom10443 Posts
On June 10 2015 17:53 deacon.frost wrote: Don't know why it reminded me a "shady" guy offering you free try of his "good stuff" so you can then buy it when the proper time comes But yeah, it sounds good to me too. I'm almost positive that GOM doesn't supply drugs. =) | ||
Rollora
2450 Posts
And youtube livestreams. And other services | ||
afreecaTV.Char
United States332 Posts
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KappaKingPrime
United States468 Posts
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