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Cascade
Australia5405 Posts
On June 16 2015 18:25 djwaters22 wrote: Hey everyone! this is just my 2 cents. I hope you enjoy my newest video! (Link) Ummm, dangerously close to advertising. Can you at the very least put a few sentences of effort into explaining your point here on TL, or some suspicious people may think that you are only fishing for views on your video, and don't really care about the thread.  | ||
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djwaters22
112 Posts
On June 16 2015 19:03 Cascade wrote: Ummm, dangerously close to advertising. Can you at the very least put a few sentences of effort into explaining your point here on TL, or some suspicious people may think that you are only fishing for views on your video, and don't really care about the thread. Fair enough. Ill type some stuff I talked about in a bit | ||
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TRaFFiC
Canada1448 Posts
On June 16 2015 19:03 Cascade wrote: Ummm, dangerously close to advertising. Can you at the very least put a few sentences of effort into explaining your point here on TL, or some suspicious people may think that you are only fishing for views on your video, and don't really care about the thread. Advertizing what? His 5 videos about Korean sc2. Gotta love backseat moderators. He makes some good points. | ||
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djwaters22
112 Posts
On June 16 2015 19:54 TRaFFiC wrote: Advertizing what? His 5 videos about Korean sc2. Gotta love backseat moderators. He makes some good points. ty for the love and support. pretty much all my videos are about my love for sc2 :D | ||
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Cascade
Australia5405 Posts
On June 16 2015 19:38 djwaters22 wrote: Fair enough. Ill type some stuff I talked about in a bit Ty. | ||
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Penev
28475 Posts
On June 16 2015 18:25 djwaters22 wrote: Hey everyone! I feel like the gsl is worth the money but ofc I hate to pay. Honestly I would say that if the gsl collapses all of pro level sc2 will fall. I love the gsl as I have been their a million times and I love the people. 8 dollars is a lot but its not any worse than a single burker king meal. I made a video about it and I hope you will check it out. I said a lot more than this. Personally I think that if GOM pulls the plug it would hurt A LOT but I don't think it will take everything with it. SSL & Proleague have the (kinda unfair) advantage and ESL seems to do ok for now. It would be nice that if GOM did drop it someone else could take over. Doesn't seem too likely though, maybe Blizzard should take the RIOT route (not too likely either). So yeah, it would suck but it wouldn't be the end of Starcraft 2. | ||
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checkupriv
204 Posts
On June 14 2015 05:20 BronzeKnee wrote: I know right, I mean you've got be a finely educated professional with lots of experience to understand how to start a successful business or how to create a good product. Which is why I'm scratching my head trying to understand how Richard Branson made it so big after dropping out of high school. I mean if a high school dropout can become a billionaire... maybe we should judge people on their ideas rather than letters after their name? Nah, that's foolish! Right? Is this a real post? Are you trolling? The point he was making is pretty obvious, as is the fact that most people don't know as much about business as someone with an MBA. I mean, really, is the argument supposed to be "Richard Branson made a lot of money so everyone in this thread is qualified to offer an opinion on the GSL"? | ||
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BronzeKnee
United States5217 Posts
On June 16 2015 22:57 checkupriv wrote: Is this a real post? Are you trolling? The point he was making is pretty obvious, as is the fact that most people don't know as much about business as someone with an MBA. That wasn't his point at all. His point was that if we don't have a MBA and know their business model, we shouldn't be talking to the GSL about their business decisions. On June 16 2015 22:57 checkupriv wrote: I mean, really, is the argument supposed to be "Richard Branson made a lot of money so everyone in this thread is qualified to offer an opinion on the GSL"? My point was that you should judge what people say based on their ideas, not on the letters after their name. So attack their ideas, because their ideas stand independent of who they are and don't suddenly become more or less valid when repeated by someone with an MBA. Doing otherwise is the logical fallacy of authority and cannot rationally be defend: https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/appeal-to-authority Knowing is half the battle, brah. Watch more GI Joe. | ||
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Cascade
Australia5405 Posts
On June 20 2015 13:44 BronzeKnee wrote: Doing otherwise is the logical fallacy of authority and cannot rationally be defend: https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/appeal-to-authority Knowing is half the battle, brah. Watch more GI Joe. Read the second sentence of the main text in the link you posted. Point of the link is 1) exports can be wrong. 2) non experts are more likely to be wrong. So yes, just because gom does something it doesn't mean that it is a good move. But we are not in a position to say that it is a stupid move. Their guess is more likely to be accurate than ours. Luckily we are a lot of people here, so someone will guess any outcome, and there will always be someone to tell them "told you so" whatever happens. | ||
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BronzeKnee
United States5217 Posts
On June 20 2015 16:04 Cascade wrote: Read the second sentence of the main text in the link you posted. Point of the link is 1) exports can be wrong. 2) non experts are more likely to be wrong. So yes, just because gom does something it doesn't mean that it is a good move. But we are not in a position to say that it is a stupid move. Their guess is more likely to be accurate than ours. Luckily we are a lot of people here, so someone will guess any outcome, and there will always be someone to tell them "told you so" whatever happens. You missed the point. The whole point of what I am saying is that isn't come down to "let's believe person X or Y" where authority is the only factor. This is a debate regarding if GOM can make more money by switching to medium. Ideas are what matters here, not who says said ideas. There is lack of empirical evidence here. A forum is a place to share ideas. Argue the ideas, don't just dismiss them because said person don't have a MBA or work for GOM. Because someone from GOM with a MBA could make the exact same argument, so again, it is the ideas that matter, not the person. And the advantage someone working at GOM would have is empirical evidence, which is lacking in this thread. And if someone has empirical evidence that GOM will make more/less money in the short and long term by going back to low, than this debate is over. But they don't need a MBA for that... remember part of his argument was that they had a MBA =) | ||
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Cascade
Australia5405 Posts
On June 20 2015 16:22 BronzeKnee wrote: You missed the point. The whole point of what I am saying is that isn't come down to "let's believe person X or Y" where authority is the only factor. This is a debate regarding if GOM can make more money by switching to medium. Ideas are what matters here, not who says said ideas. There is lack of empirical evidence here. A forum is a place to share ideas. Argue the ideas, don't just dismiss them because said person don't have a MBA or work for GOM. Because someone from GOM with a MBA could make the exact same argument, so again, it is the ideas that matter, not the person. And the advantage someone working at GOM would have is empirical evidence, which is lacking in this thread. And if someone has empirical evidence that GOM will make more/less money in the short and long term by going back to low, than this debate is over. But they don't need a MBA for that... remember part of his argument was that they had a MBA =) Seeing how GOM have tried both, they have empirical data. They chose to go low. So I feel it is fair to assume that going medium wasn't an obvious economical advantage for them, at least over the time frame they tested it. Which means that people that going "obviously bad business" (with derogatory remarks and "lol" to taste) isn't really justified unless you know things that GOM doesn't. It doesn't mean that low was much better either, maybe they just want to try low a bit more or whatever. I was mainly aiming at the drive-by posters coming with one-liners about how GOM is stupid. That demographic probably wont read this post though, so not sure why I bother.  | ||
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