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Czech Republic12129 Posts
On March 11 2015 01:23 Rhythmic wrote: But hey,lets not talk about changing of game/balance designer. "Game is fine" - every sc2 caster in 2012-2014...now they stream HS or CS. Exactly my thoughts for a while now 
Though I will watch the CS>GO finals probably, it's fun and stuff, I liked it last time and it was better produced than SC2 content
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Sc2 still gets the nod ahead of dota2&lol at the events where theres more than 1 game.
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On March 10 2015 02:48 OtherWorld wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2015 02:44 BaneRiders wrote:I don't know if this, DH Bucharest skipping SC2 actually means anything in the long run, but my gut reaction is simple: This is terrible news for SC2 and Blizzard both. If DH the likes of it continues to not include SC2 in their events this year, where HoTS should be peaking really, in terms of providing good competitions that is, and LoTV is still far away from any kind of maturity, its like Blizzard completely missed the timing of the LoTV release. All the momentum the scene currently has would be wiped out, players dispersed etc. So yeah, this could be pretty bad.  Also, I don't quite understand the notion that "...as long as SC2 is going to continue in Korea I don't care...." For me, as a fan of SC2 and with a huge interest in the EU-scene, a SC2 only in Korea is something I wouldn't be able to follow, and to be honest, something that I wouldn't want to follow either. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the biggest scene (not to be confused with the strongest scene) is EU, not KR. I wonder how long Blizzard would continue to maintain a game that is only played competitively in KR, when gaming all around the world is booming like nothing we have seen before? Probably 2 seconds? That's what I call screaming before you feel the pain. Starcraft 2 will be at the DH which follows Bucharest, Tours, and will most likely be part of the next DHs too. IEM had a non-SC2 event last year, and no one went batshit over it, and IEM is still strongly supporting SC2 as of today.
I'll just keep on screaming if that is ok with you.
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screw international tournaments. low level foreigner skills. I only need korean level skills. Only need GSL. GSL all the way!
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On March 11 2015 03:54 BaneRiders wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2015 02:48 OtherWorld wrote:On March 10 2015 02:44 BaneRiders wrote:I don't know if this, DH Bucharest skipping SC2 actually means anything in the long run, but my gut reaction is simple: This is terrible news for SC2 and Blizzard both. If DH the likes of it continues to not include SC2 in their events this year, where HoTS should be peaking really, in terms of providing good competitions that is, and LoTV is still far away from any kind of maturity, its like Blizzard completely missed the timing of the LoTV release. All the momentum the scene currently has would be wiped out, players dispersed etc. So yeah, this could be pretty bad.  Also, I don't quite understand the notion that "...as long as SC2 is going to continue in Korea I don't care...." For me, as a fan of SC2 and with a huge interest in the EU-scene, a SC2 only in Korea is something I wouldn't be able to follow, and to be honest, something that I wouldn't want to follow either. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the biggest scene (not to be confused with the strongest scene) is EU, not KR. I wonder how long Blizzard would continue to maintain a game that is only played competitively in KR, when gaming all around the world is booming like nothing we have seen before? Probably 2 seconds? That's what I call screaming before you feel the pain. Starcraft 2 will be at the DH which follows Bucharest, Tours, and will most likely be part of the next DHs too. IEM had a non-SC2 event last year, and no one went batshit over it, and IEM is still strongly supporting SC2 as of today. I'll just keep on screaming if that is ok with you. Well now that we are feeling the pain we can scream as much as you want (:
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to be fair the last few finals that I have seen do not warrant the venue on which they are being held audience-wise
a third to maybe half the seats filled does not give a very good impression on stream
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On March 11 2015 04:39 OtherWorld wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2015 03:54 BaneRiders wrote:On March 10 2015 02:48 OtherWorld wrote:On March 10 2015 02:44 BaneRiders wrote:I don't know if this, DH Bucharest skipping SC2 actually means anything in the long run, but my gut reaction is simple: This is terrible news for SC2 and Blizzard both. If DH the likes of it continues to not include SC2 in their events this year, where HoTS should be peaking really, in terms of providing good competitions that is, and LoTV is still far away from any kind of maturity, its like Blizzard completely missed the timing of the LoTV release. All the momentum the scene currently has would be wiped out, players dispersed etc. So yeah, this could be pretty bad.  Also, I don't quite understand the notion that "...as long as SC2 is going to continue in Korea I don't care...." For me, as a fan of SC2 and with a huge interest in the EU-scene, a SC2 only in Korea is something I wouldn't be able to follow, and to be honest, something that I wouldn't want to follow either. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the biggest scene (not to be confused with the strongest scene) is EU, not KR. I wonder how long Blizzard would continue to maintain a game that is only played competitively in KR, when gaming all around the world is booming like nothing we have seen before? Probably 2 seconds? That's what I call screaming before you feel the pain. Starcraft 2 will be at the DH which follows Bucharest, Tours, and will most likely be part of the next DHs too. IEM had a non-SC2 event last year, and no one went batshit over it, and IEM is still strongly supporting SC2 as of today. I'll just keep on screaming if that is ok with you. Well now that we are feeling the pain we can scream as much as you want (:
Thank you very much! 
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGRRRRGGGHHH! Dang you DH, that hurt! Don't do it again.
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I think u ppl should be more than happy that it's been as huge as it has been through some years now, i mean it's absolutely not a mainstreamgame, it's still not dead and there will come an expansion also wich will attract new and old progamers. Learn to love all kind of esports instead of just sc2, it will help u a lot to stay happy in situations like these ;D
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Northern Ireland26100 Posts
A smaller, but more dedicated and knowledgable scene has its advantages for sure. There's just a happy medium between that and an audience big enough to keep the tournament scene alive
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First is just 1 tournament, then 2 and 3. And in the long run there won't be SC2 at Dreamhack or IEM unless viewers numbers go way high from now on.
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That's just how things are. In the world championship series you have your europeans and americans competing, and then the few koreans that slip through somehow still dominate. Where is the sense in hyping up foreign players, all the hosts and casters must feel stupid after a while. LOL international tournaments. Upsets. Sc2 a great game, but how genuine is the support if representatives from your country never win anything. It just goes against logic, except for the viewers. Oh yes this guy is great, but he has no chance against korean XY. Yeah that's great, just like women football is great.
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On March 11 2015 11:27 plotspot wrote: That's just how things are. In the world championship series you have your europeans and americans competing, and then the few koreans that slip through somehow still dominate. Where is the sense in hyping up foreign players, all the hosts and casters must feel stupid after a while. LOL international tournaments. Upsets. Sc2 a great game, but how genuine is the support if representatives from your country never win anything. It just goes against logic, except for the viewers. Oh yes this guy is great, but he has no chance against korean XY. Yeah that's great, just like women football is great. Bunny just 2-0 Soulkey in Fragbite, only losing 1 unit in 1 of the games. Flawless victories.
Besides, I don't see how foreigner skill relates to DH. I assume more important are viewers and ticket sales.
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On March 11 2015 11:27 plotspot wrote: That's just how things are. In the world championship series you have your europeans and americans competing, and then the few koreans that slip through somehow still dominate. Where is the sense in hyping up foreign players, all the hosts and casters must feel stupid after a while. LOL international tournaments. Upsets. Sc2 a great game, but how genuine is the support if representatives from your country never win anything. It just goes against logic, except for the viewers. Oh yes this guy is great, but he has no chance against korean XY. Yeah that's great, just like women football is great.
thats where casters need to sell skill and not patriotism. Ive always heavily disliked MLG because they always painted themselves into the "foreigner or we dont give a fuck" corner.
The fact that Dreamhack wont feature sc2 at their 2 biggest events, summer and winter, is a big deal and a shame.
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Not suprising, the SC2 international competitive scene has been dead for a long time. Blizzard has also given up on HotS at this point - they're banking on LotV. Widow mines have been owning everything the past few months and everytime someone points it out on TL they get banned or warned. GSL has gone downhill since they decided that 240p is the new medium quality. One of the most prestigious SC2-only tournament is now THAT dead. At least I still have SPL so I'm happy.
Oh, and the fact that SC2 pros quit it to go back to BW and even go as far as making a BW tournament that has as many viewers as a comparable SC2 tournament.
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Why are people sad? I personally think that DH finals have been pretty weak (and no, don't bring up Innovation vs TaeJa or Stardust vs Jaedong because those were in 2013), when compared to IEM. So, there's no loss to me here
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On March 12 2015 10:32 hansonslee wrote: Why are people sad? I personally think that DH finals have been pretty weak (and no, don't bring up Innovation vs TaeJa or Stardust vs Jaedong because those were in 2013), when compared to IEM. So, there's no loss to me here sacsri mc wasnt bad, and are you telling me ForGG v Life was weak?!
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Dead game
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