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Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
March 12 2015 02:18 GMT
#341
This article from The Score sounds quite reassuring I feel : http://www.thescoreesports.com/news/698
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
BronzeKnee
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5219 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-12 02:43:51
March 12 2015 02:41 GMT
#342
On March 10 2015 01:19 Liliputin wrote:

Games for 10 year olds over the best RTS game in history of eSports...



SC2 at the moment is a pretty bad game to watch in the opinion of many, including me. Blizzard did a really terrible job with HOTS, honestly WOL with some Infestor changes/nerfs would be far better to watch at the moment that any given HOTS game.

On March 11 2015 01:23 Rhythmic wrote:
But hey,lets not talk about changing of game/balance designer.
"Game is fine" - every sc2 caster in 2012-2014...now they stream HS or CS.


Well said, the game so badly needs a new design team it isn't even funny. The Herc? The Warhound? The fact that Photon Overcharge made it out of Beta? Could you really think of a more skilless ability than "Press F, click on Nexus and get a Cannon with huge range to defend your whole base"?
Eliezar
Profile Joined May 2004
United States481 Posts
March 12 2015 03:07 GMT
#343
On March 12 2015 11:41 BronzeKnee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2015 01:19 Liliputin wrote:

Games for 10 year olds over the best RTS game in history of eSports...



SC2 at the moment is a pretty bad game to watch in the opinion of many, including me. Blizzard did a really terrible job with HOTS, honestly WOL with some Infestor changes/nerfs would be far better to watch at the moment that any given HOTS game.

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On March 11 2015 01:23 Rhythmic wrote:
But hey,lets not talk about changing of game/balance designer.
"Game is fine" - every sc2 caster in 2012-2014...now they stream HS or CS.


Well said, the game so badly needs a new design team it isn't even funny. The Herc? The Warhound? The fact that Photon Overcharge made it out of Beta? Could you really think of a more skilless ability than "Press F, click on Nexus and get a Cannon with huge range to defend your whole base"?


The photon overcharge came out with that range to defend against fast siege tank pushes since they were making sieged tanks faster and cheaper for terran and trying to push terran towards a mech composition (mines, faster tanks, hellbats...all factory centric). The 1-1-1 was still very hard for the protoss to defend before the MSC. The problem for protoss was how do they leave their base and not be stuck in an all in type of situation and it was a satisfactory solution and definitely saw more expansive strategies, but...

As you said WOL overall was a bit more fun although they needed to balance it as it was definitely out of balance in a way that maps couldn't fix. Terran was in an okay position I think...Protoss didn't have enough flexibility...Zerg had a late game composition that was too hard to interact with. The change to fungal was pretty good (it was so much better than psionic storm for instance) but I think part of the problem was the brood lord free unit machine and its sad, but they pretty much just gave zerg a better free unit machine. I thought StarCraft vanilla was better than Broodwar outside of the issue of air units stacking though which they fixed in 1.03 I think.

I would like to see them try to get the game to be more fluid in LotV. I just remember how good those two games between Parting and MKP were in the team league finals and would love to see all the matches look fast paced and spread out like that rather than just seeing all ins and swarm hosts. Parting vs MMA had 1 or 2 games that were pretty good, but the rest were pretty bad. 8(
Sejanus
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Lithuania550 Posts
March 12 2015 08:58 GMT
#344
Who cares about dreamhack, it turned into a joke tournament long ago.
Friends don't let friends massacre civilians
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26762 Posts
March 12 2015 09:46 GMT
#345
Plenty of people ergo these kind of threads? 'Joke tournament'? :S
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
hansonslee
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States2027 Posts
March 12 2015 17:12 GMT
#346
On March 12 2015 10:46 Cricketer12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2015 10:32 hansonslee wrote:
Why are people sad? I personally think that DH finals have been pretty weak (and no, don't bring up Innovation vs TaeJa or Stardust vs Jaedong because those were in 2013), when compared to IEM. So, there's no loss to me here

sacsri mc wasnt bad, and are you telling me ForGG v Life was weak?!


Well... I'll give you that one bc of ForGG's tears after his win, but it's still nothing compared to TaeJa vs Solar, Life vs Maru, etc.
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xyzz
Profile Joined January 2012
567 Posts
March 12 2015 18:47 GMT
#347
not surprised sc2 was dropped. people should be more surprised that sc2 hasn't been dropped from all tournaments yet, considering that lol, dota and csgo draw more than 5 times more interest at streams and other medias. sc2 is a cool game with some great players, but it is in fact a small game. there's nothing bad in being a small game, but this seems to be a pretty general misconception among fans.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
March 12 2015 18:51 GMT
#348
On March 12 2015 11:18 Boucot wrote:
This article from The Score sounds quite reassuring I feel : http://www.thescoreesports.com/news/698


The article needs more love. It's self-explanatory.
skatblast
Profile Joined September 2011
United States784 Posts
March 12 2015 19:18 GMT
#349
Guess i wont be watching then, not that they care
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17486 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-12 19:35:20
March 12 2015 19:33 GMT
#350
On March 13 2015 03:51 StarStruck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2015 11:18 Boucot wrote:
This article from The Score sounds quite reassuring I feel : http://www.thescoreesports.com/news/698


The article needs more love. It's self-explanatory.


i'll give this article some love and create this post as a tribute to Richard Garner...

"We evaluated all possible scenarios, but in the end we're just happy that our sponsors supported us to do two game titles and continue support StarCraft II: Heart of the Swarm tournaments in 2015. It's the game that built a lot what DreamHack is in eSports today and we will continue support the community many years to come."

Remember Frank Pierce promised that SC2 would be a 10 year experiment with eSports.
5 years to go.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
jellyjello
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)664 Posts
March 12 2015 23:59 GMT
#351
SC2 has hit the ceiling for its growth in terms of a spectator sport. We can point out many reasons for it, but essentially what we are seeing today with the viewership numbers is the direct result of the biggest flaw in SC2: the game just does not have the charm to attract many casual players to keep playing the game.

The launching of LoTV will regain the viewership numbers by the virtue of it being a brand new game. However, unless the game's core issues are addressed - elements which attract casual players, we are going to have this same discussion again in 2-3 years.
pure.Wasted
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada4701 Posts
March 13 2015 00:20 GMT
#352
On March 13 2015 08:59 jellyjello wrote:
SC2 has hit the ceiling for its growth in terms of a spectator sport. We can point out many reasons for it, but essentially what we are seeing today with the viewership numbers is the direct result of the biggest flaw in SC2: the game just does not have the charm to attract many casual players to keep playing the game.


Isn't it slowly growing in Korea? NSSL + Proleague bigger than ever...?
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Shinokuki
Profile Joined July 2013
United States923 Posts
March 13 2015 00:52 GMT
#353
On March 13 2015 09:20 pure.Wasted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2015 08:59 jellyjello wrote:
SC2 has hit the ceiling for its growth in terms of a spectator sport. We can point out many reasons for it, but essentially what we are seeing today with the viewership numbers is the direct result of the biggest flaw in SC2: the game just does not have the charm to attract many casual players to keep playing the game.


Isn't it slowly growing in Korea? NSSL + Proleague bigger than ever...?


who is doing all that supporting. I haven't seen a single sc2 stream in the biggest streaminf site afreeca. i see bw going for like 40k viewership on it. Pc bang sc2 is also abysmal. sc2 is almost irrelevant among korean youths. its like oh flash lost 3x in a row? hah.. can you provide me some ratings on sc2 in korea because in korea no one really cares bout sc2. like seriously No news on it on naver daum nate. i see sonic sbenu featured on naver
Life is just life
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
March 13 2015 01:07 GMT
#354
On March 12 2015 11:18 Boucot wrote:
This article from The Score sounds quite reassuring I feel : http://www.thescoreesports.com/news/698

thanks for linking that - it gives some great insight into the DH year ahead!
Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
March 13 2015 01:32 GMT
#355
quote from the article:
"At DreamHack Winter 2014: The Day Blizzard announce when Legacy of Void will be released we'll take that decision," said Lyckedal. "We're super-excited about the new game, and believe it will play a fundamental role in our eSports strategy our coming years."


So people can stop bitching about DreamHack not "caring" about SC2 anymore
"Dark Pleasure" | | I survived the Locust war of May 3, 2014
KingFool
Profile Joined January 2008
Canada428 Posts
March 13 2015 01:34 GMT
#356
On March 13 2015 03:51 StarStruck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2015 11:18 Boucot wrote:
This article from The Score sounds quite reassuring I feel : http://www.thescoreesports.com/news/698


The article needs more love. It's self-explanatory.


On March 13 2015 10:07 y0su wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2015 11:18 Boucot wrote:
This article from The Score sounds quite reassuring I feel : http://www.thescoreesports.com/news/698

thanks for linking that - it gives some great insight into the DH year ahead!


With a lot of the fan favorites taking a break until LotV, I can understand why major tournaments are eager to do that same.
You can't blame anyone for taking a breather from SC atm. They will have a busy schedule after release.
Stimin myself on a daily basis
-KG-
Profile Joined October 2012
Denmark1219 Posts
March 13 2015 10:01 GMT
#357
One less event to watch
~~(,,ºº>
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26762 Posts
March 13 2015 13:09 GMT
#358
What's going on with numbers atm?

I would have thought IEM was a lock for around 35-40k viewers at least
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Tchado
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Jordan1831 Posts
March 13 2015 13:15 GMT
#359
Drop sc2 but bring back HoN......kinda weird , at least with DreamHoN back I have a reason to watch dreamhack
BaneRiders
Profile Joined August 2013
Sweden3630 Posts
March 13 2015 18:11 GMT
#360
On March 13 2015 10:32 Integra wrote:
quote from the article:
Show nested quote +
"At DreamHack Winter 2014: The Day Blizzard announce when Legacy of Void will be released we'll take that decision," said Lyckedal. "We're super-excited about the new game, and believe it will play a fundamental role in our eSports strategy our coming years."


So people can stop bitching about DreamHack not "caring" about SC2 anymore


That can be interpreted to being a diplomatic way of saying if the LoTV release is good, then it is in, but until then SC2 is not playing a fundamental role in their eSports strategy. And yeah... that is what we are seeing right now, isn't it?
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