Pinnacle voids Dark vs. San bets due to match manipulation…

On February 27 2015 11:37 Waxangel wrote:
that's absurd odds for a Bo1.... that's like a foreigner vs Korean match -_-

On February 27 2015 11:02 Swoopae wrote:
Again, there is no conclusive proof of match fixing but there IS conclusive proof that something suspicious happened again, and this is the fourth time (three suspicious line movements leading to betting lines being taken down in Korean matches, two of which were on Game 1 of a series and the third of which was in a best of 1 proleague match, and the olimoley sponsors stream delay with observers for betting etc which is a seperate issue)

It's a fact that something shady is going on. Exactly what that is is not up to me to determine.

On February 27 2015 16:55 ZAiNs wrote:

The part that confuses me is why the betters would make it so blatantly obvious to the point that the line automatically gets shut down, especially after it already happened with San vs Dark.

On February 27 2015 16:55 ZAiNs wrote:

The part that confuses me is why the betters would make it so blatantly obvious to the point that the line automatically gets shut down, especially after it already happened with San vs Dark.

On February 27 2015 23:06 Jarree wrote:

I have been in the online gaming industry for a long time and I've seen incredible stupid fraud attempts that had basicly no hope of getting through even the automated checks. I have also been asked to participate in them (note: not esports/sports betting frauds) and told them not to do it, but they still did and got caught. Greed, ignorance, stupidity, take your bet (ehehe).

On February 27 2015 23:30 Umpteen wrote:
Just a thought, but what if there was no match-fixing, and shutting the betting down was the whole point of the exercise?

Here's how it would work:

You place your bet as normal, and if things go well, great. But if it looks like you're going to lose, you arrange for a barrage of heavy bets to come in for the other guy, shove the line all to hell, trip the automated systems and get your money back. No suspicion will attach to you because you bet against the way the line was pushed. All the attention gets focused on the losing player, who hasn't got a clue what was going on. And in the event the bets go through, you win big anyway via the barrage of proxy bets.

On February 27 2015 23:38 StarGalaxy wrote:


That makes no sense at all. You know that the lines close before the match starts?

On February 27 2015 18:07 Grumbels wrote:
So has it been the case that every time there was a suspicious line that the game was won by the player who was betted on?

On February 27 2015 16:45 Cascade wrote:
Wow, and it continues! Is pinnacle doing anything at all about this? Like investigating the accounts, tracking down the actual people, police, etc? Does pinnacle consider this an acceptable state of sc2 betting?

On February 27 2015 22:56 StarGalaxy wrote:


Well i think you can compare it to map hackers. In the cases the opponent hides it well you never even think about that he could be maphacking.
At this point I think it might be possible that there are quite a number of match fixed games. I heard from several professional betters that they lost a lot of money recently. It's difficult to detect if the match fixers hide it well and don't get too greedy. There are always movements on the lines. I saw some medium sized movements myself.

On February 28 2015 07:03 Swoopae wrote:
Seriously why is there not more attention being brought to this? I even PM'd a TL mod. Does matchfixing only get attention when barrages of claims are made on twitter? I've send Kespa the relevant information twice now and received no reply.

Does the esports community really not care that match fixing is probably going on at the highest level? I'm so disappointed. All I want to see is a proper investigation into the matter.

Another possibility is that the major Kespa streams are slightly delayed and we don't know about it, similar to the Olimoley observer scandal, but I really doubt that's the case with major leagues. Can someone confirm that isn't the case? Because if it isn't, then it's very highly likely that players are involved in match fixing and it would be fairly simple to prove with a basic investigation by Kespa when the bookmaker in question has agreed to cooperate with an investigation.