EPTOn February 09 2015 03:08 Zealously wrote:
I agree. The speculation is harmful more so than actual names would be, in my opinion.
I agree. The speculation is harmful more so than actual names would be, in my opinion.
Maybe TL can interview her?
Pinnacle voids Dark vs. San bets due to match manipulation…
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Musicus
Germany23579 Posts
Maybe TL can interview her? | ||
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GEC
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Clubfan
Germany913 Posts
On February 09 2015 03:13 GEC wrote: Wow. Need a thread to explain all this shit. It's been closed as she didn't provide any proof and at this point, the speculation would do more harm than good. | ||
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xtorn
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Chaggi
Korea (South)1936 Posts
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Zealously
East Gorteau22261 Posts
On February 09 2015 03:13 GEC wrote: Wow. Need a thread to explain all this shit. Definitely. There's no proof anywhere though, just angry tweets claiming matchfixing left and right. No names named, no details shared, just "inside information" with no (as of yet provided) substance. Not thread-worthy in its current form. | ||
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Shuffleblade
Sweden1903 Posts
Not saying that its not possible but I find unlikely that companies like SKT, Samsung and CJ would risk their companies good name to earn what would for the companies be small money. They are in it for the publicity, they wouldn't risk it all to do something shady like this and I find it unlikely all the teams are matchfixing while the coaches and teambosses don't know about it. Maybe its a thing what do I know but I thing its unlikely its as big of a thing as she makes it sound. I can imagine a group of individuals doing this but not as many as this makes it sound. | ||
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
On February 09 2015 03:14 xtorn wrote: judging by what Grant HIll tweeted, Olivia Wong is doing Blizz a disservice by washing laundry in public without proof. She shouldve waited and let Blizzard handle it. You really think you can get Blizzard to do anything? To sounds like Aeromi for a second here, they can't even get a handbook together or announce a date. Trying to get Blizzard to be helpful is like trying to get a sloth to run a marathon, it might happen eventually but it'll probably be a few years. | ||
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Jett.Jack.Alvir
Canada2250 Posts
Hot damn this shit just got more interesting, lemme get my popcorn! | ||
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SuperHofmann
Italy1741 Posts
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Clubfan
Germany913 Posts
On February 09 2015 03:15 Zealously wrote: Definitely. There's no proof anywhere though, just angry tweets claiming matchfixing left and right. No names named, no details shared, just "inside information" with no (as of yet provided) substance. Not thread-worthy in its current form. My thread has been opened again? I've now put a kind of disclaimer in the op. | ||
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Zealously
East Gorteau22261 Posts
On February 09 2015 03:18 Clubfan wrote: My thread has been opened again? I've now put a kind of disclaimer in the op. We got in touch with olimoley, more information should be forthcoming. | ||
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Clubfan
Germany913 Posts
On February 09 2015 03:20 Zealously wrote: We got in touch with olimoley, more information should be forthcoming. Ok, I hope she provides waterproof evidences, otherwise it would have been very dumb to go public. | ||
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Musicus
Germany23579 Posts
On February 09 2015 03:16 Shuffleblade wrote: Wow this really got me confused, my thoughts are this. Not saying that its not possible but I find unlikely that companies like SKT, Samsung and CJ would risk their companies good name to earn what would for the companies be small money. They are in it for the publicity, they wouldn't risk it all to do something shady like this and I find it unlikely all the teams are matchfixing while the coaches and teambosses don't know about it. Maybe its a thing what do I know but I thing its unlikely its as big of a thing as she makes it sound. I can imagine a group of individuals doing this but not as many as this makes it sound. Yeah this is more about online tournaments where big names are playing although the prize money is "only" 2k or something. I do not think this about KeSPA or Prloeague teams, but rather about small online streamers/tournament organizers. As she is personally trying to improve the scene on that smaller level through here own tournament, I can see why she is upset. But if Blizzard is aware of this, she should've stayed quite for now I guess, or go all out with proof and names. Another tweet: | ||
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
On February 09 2015 03:20 Zealously wrote: We got in touch with olimoley, more information should be forthcoming. Excellent | ||
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Jett.Jack.Alvir
Canada2250 Posts
Her tweets seem to imply that basetrade is also involved in this betting scandal. Please someone get me more information, I am so thirsty! | ||
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PinheadXXXXXX
United States897 Posts
On February 09 2015 03:24 Jett.Jack.Alvir wrote: So how are the organizers of these small tournaments involved? I am so confused… Her tweets seem to imply that basetrade is also involved in this betting scandal. Please someone get me more information, I am so thirsty! The idea is that a "sponsor" gives the tournament money on the condition that there is a long stream delay, so they can bet on the games while already knowing the results. | ||
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xtorn
4060 Posts
On February 09 2015 03:17 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: You really think you can get Blizzard to do anything? To sounds like Aeromi for a second here, they can't even get a handbook together or announce a date. Trying to get Blizzard to be helpful is like trying to get a sloth to run a marathon, it might happen eventually but it'll probably be a few years. regardless of how Blizzard is handling the issue, she should not have done this imho. She risks her job, career, credibility and if she has no proof then the whole move was simply a huge mistake. Blizz would never compromise themselves with such mistakes, and surely they were actively working on the problems, gathering evidence, etc.But this kind of thing takes time. On February 09 2015 03:22 Clubfan wrote: Ok, I hope she provides waterproof evidences, otherwise it would have been very dumb to go public. exactly. | ||
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Jett.Jack.Alvir
Canada2250 Posts
On February 09 2015 03:29 PinheadXXXXXX wrote: The idea is that a "sponsor" gives the tournament money on the condition that there is a long stream delay, so they can bet on the games while already knowing the results. Ah I see, so this doesn't directly connect with the Pinnacle issue, unless of course Pinnacle is putting these small tournaments on their platform. Can anyone confirm if these small tournaments and showmatches can be betted on betting platforms? | ||
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dsousa
United States1363 Posts
Thank you! SC2 in Korean need to be cleaned up. If one there were a esports association of some type. Like a governing body..... http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1ski690 | ||
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