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I'll be the second person ITT to say she's a hottie, the fact that she plays sc2 at high masters just amplifies it.
As for her skill, what can I say? She is great for a female, but nothing special when compared to competitive males.
<3 female gamers
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On March 02 2014 09:18 Harajuku wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2014 09:08 Tipany wrote:On March 02 2014 08:41 PromisesPlays wrote:On March 02 2014 08:07 Harajuku wrote:
This is cool, but don't ROOT have an Academy team, SEED, specifically for up-and-comers, such as Ms.Spyte, that aren't quite at pro level yet? I'm happy for her, but it does look a bit strange to me to have a mid-high masters player on the main team while there are GM players on the academy team. This is pretttttty much my take on it aswell. Congrats to her, but yeah.... True, but Spyte's exposure and placement in tournaments aren't at the level of the Academy team. It's not in Premier Tournaments or whatever but she's really good relatively (ie. for a girl). And as blunt as that truth might be, it's still the reality of the situation I'm not saying she doesn't deserve it, although it may sound like that in my post. Shes certainly a hard worker with a consistent stream. I can see that they recruited her because of her high exposure as a top streamer and because shes female, but skill wise you cant deny theres a significant discrepancy between her and players like sage, minigun, illusion etc. to the point where it does look a bit weird when you see her on the same roster as those kind of players. Her staying at the ROOT house is a great thing for her, but from the perspective of the other residents, who are (almost) all korean GM level, they cant really practice with her because of the difference in skill level. Like it or not, but this too, is the reality of the situation.
everyone knows this already. everyone realizes that women who compete at a master+ level in SC get special recognition. there is no one, anywhere, in any universe, arguing that ms spyte is as good as sage, illusion or minigun. no one has ever said that or believed it or even suspected it
there is a good reason women get more hype in this community: because women succeeding at SC is fun and interesting to watch, and the more it happens, the more women will potentially WANT to become involved in SC, which increases the playerbase and makes it more diverse and welcoming, as well as being a good sign for gender politics in general
hope this helps
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I don't expect much from her for awhile, but the second half of 2014 should be great for her with the right practice partners thanks to Root
Hopefully it proves to be a good pickup
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All I'll say is that Spyte is really really cute, and always nice to everyone. I wish I could give her a hug but she probably wouldn't like that 
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On March 02 2014 11:39 Waise wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2014 09:18 Harajuku wrote:On March 02 2014 09:08 Tipany wrote:On March 02 2014 08:41 PromisesPlays wrote:On March 02 2014 08:07 Harajuku wrote:
This is cool, but don't ROOT have an Academy team, SEED, specifically for up-and-comers, such as Ms.Spyte, that aren't quite at pro level yet? I'm happy for her, but it does look a bit strange to me to have a mid-high masters player on the main team while there are GM players on the academy team. This is pretttttty much my take on it aswell. Congrats to her, but yeah.... True, but Spyte's exposure and placement in tournaments aren't at the level of the Academy team. It's not in Premier Tournaments or whatever but she's really good relatively (ie. for a girl). And as blunt as that truth might be, it's still the reality of the situation I'm not saying she doesn't deserve it, although it may sound like that in my post. Shes certainly a hard worker with a consistent stream. I can see that they recruited her because of her high exposure as a top streamer and because shes female, but skill wise you cant deny theres a significant discrepancy between her and players like sage, minigun, illusion etc. to the point where it does look a bit weird when you see her on the same roster as those kind of players. Her staying at the ROOT house is a great thing for her, but from the perspective of the other residents, who are (almost) all korean GM level, they cant really practice with her because of the difference in skill level. Like it or not, but this too, is the reality of the situation. everyone knows this already. everyone realizes that women who compete at a master+ level in SC get special recognition. there is no one, anywhere, in any universe, arguing that ms spyte is as good as sage, illusion or minigun. no one has ever said that or believed it or even suspected it there is a good reason women get more hype in this community: because women succeeding at SC is fun and interesting to watch, and the more it happens, the more women will potentially WANT to become involved in SC, which increases the playerbase and makes it more diverse and welcoming, as well as being a good sign for gender politics in general hope this helps
Yeah, I'm aware I was kind of stating the obvious. But is this really how we want it? With that kind of thinking we, by which i mean foreign teams, can wave goodbye to any kind of hope to ever catch up or even compete with Koreans in the future. Sure there should be a place for dedicated personalities in sc2, male and female, but it doesnt have to be the main roster of one the top foreign teams.
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On March 02 2014 12:24 Harajuku wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2014 11:39 Waise wrote:On March 02 2014 09:18 Harajuku wrote:On March 02 2014 09:08 Tipany wrote:On March 02 2014 08:41 PromisesPlays wrote:On March 02 2014 08:07 Harajuku wrote:
This is cool, but don't ROOT have an Academy team, SEED, specifically for up-and-comers, such as Ms.Spyte, that aren't quite at pro level yet? I'm happy for her, but it does look a bit strange to me to have a mid-high masters player on the main team while there are GM players on the academy team. This is pretttttty much my take on it aswell. Congrats to her, but yeah.... True, but Spyte's exposure and placement in tournaments aren't at the level of the Academy team. It's not in Premier Tournaments or whatever but she's really good relatively (ie. for a girl). And as blunt as that truth might be, it's still the reality of the situation I'm not saying she doesn't deserve it, although it may sound like that in my post. Shes certainly a hard worker with a consistent stream. I can see that they recruited her because of her high exposure as a top streamer and because shes female, but skill wise you cant deny theres a significant discrepancy between her and players like sage, minigun, illusion etc. to the point where it does look a bit weird when you see her on the same roster as those kind of players. Her staying at the ROOT house is a great thing for her, but from the perspective of the other residents, who are (almost) all korean GM level, they cant really practice with her because of the difference in skill level. Like it or not, but this too, is the reality of the situation. everyone knows this already. everyone realizes that women who compete at a master+ level in SC get special recognition. there is no one, anywhere, in any universe, arguing that ms spyte is as good as sage, illusion or minigun. no one has ever said that or believed it or even suspected it there is a good reason women get more hype in this community: because women succeeding at SC is fun and interesting to watch, and the more it happens, the more women will potentially WANT to become involved in SC, which increases the playerbase and makes it more diverse and welcoming, as well as being a good sign for gender politics in general hope this helps Yeah, I'm aware I was kind of stating the obvious. But is this really how we want it? With that kind of thinking we, by which i mean foreign teams, can wave goodbye to any kind of hope to ever catch up or even compete with Koreans in the future. Sure there should be a place for dedicated personalities in sc2, male and female, but it doesnt have to be the main roster of one the top foreign teams.
How do Koreans get so good? Dedication.
What does Ms.Spyte have? Dedication.
A major part of Korean success in Sc2 is the environment they play in; Ms.Spyte's now in a much better environment as well.
Everybody has to be in masters before they're GM. I don't have a problem with ROOT's decision; it might even be a good thing to recruit other players in high masters who seem dedicated and then see what they can accomplish. What the NA scene (maybe even EU too) needs right now is openness and a little bit of passion, not cut-throat win-at-all-costs attitudes.
This doesn't seem like it's a problem : o
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And yet avilo is teamless............................................................................................................sarcasm.
Anyway, grats. Good luck!
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Hoping to see her improve in the team house. GG ROOT, your players are impressing me lately CatZ
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On March 02 2014 12:24 Harajuku wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2014 11:39 Waise wrote:On March 02 2014 09:18 Harajuku wrote:On March 02 2014 09:08 Tipany wrote:On March 02 2014 08:41 PromisesPlays wrote:On March 02 2014 08:07 Harajuku wrote:
This is cool, but don't ROOT have an Academy team, SEED, specifically for up-and-comers, such as Ms.Spyte, that aren't quite at pro level yet? I'm happy for her, but it does look a bit strange to me to have a mid-high masters player on the main team while there are GM players on the academy team. This is pretttttty much my take on it aswell. Congrats to her, but yeah.... True, but Spyte's exposure and placement in tournaments aren't at the level of the Academy team. It's not in Premier Tournaments or whatever but she's really good relatively (ie. for a girl). And as blunt as that truth might be, it's still the reality of the situation I'm not saying she doesn't deserve it, although it may sound like that in my post. Shes certainly a hard worker with a consistent stream. I can see that they recruited her because of her high exposure as a top streamer and because shes female, but skill wise you cant deny theres a significant discrepancy between her and players like sage, minigun, illusion etc. to the point where it does look a bit weird when you see her on the same roster as those kind of players. Her staying at the ROOT house is a great thing for her, but from the perspective of the other residents, who are (almost) all korean GM level, they cant really practice with her because of the difference in skill level. Like it or not, but this too, is the reality of the situation. everyone knows this already. everyone realizes that women who compete at a master+ level in SC get special recognition. there is no one, anywhere, in any universe, arguing that ms spyte is as good as sage, illusion or minigun. no one has ever said that or believed it or even suspected it there is a good reason women get more hype in this community: because women succeeding at SC is fun and interesting to watch, and the more it happens, the more women will potentially WANT to become involved in SC, which increases the playerbase and makes it more diverse and welcoming, as well as being a good sign for gender politics in general hope this helps Yeah, I'm aware I was kind of stating the obvious. But is this really how we want it? With that kind of thinking we, by which i mean foreign teams, can wave goodbye to any kind of hope to ever catch up or even compete with Koreans in the future. Sure there should be a place for dedicated personalities in sc2, male and female, but it doesnt have to be the main roster of one the top foreign teams.
Haha, dude, you think Catz sent her the paper work for her 6 figure salary yet? Get real, being on the team doesn't mean much. It's like when a new team gets a sponsor. It could mean a couple new mouse pads or 100k over a year. This details are never publicized, but you can easily guess she's not making much.
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On March 02 2014 12:46 Meepman wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2014 12:24 Harajuku wrote:On March 02 2014 11:39 Waise wrote:On March 02 2014 09:18 Harajuku wrote:On March 02 2014 09:08 Tipany wrote:On March 02 2014 08:41 PromisesPlays wrote:On March 02 2014 08:07 Harajuku wrote:
This is cool, but don't ROOT have an Academy team, SEED, specifically for up-and-comers, such as Ms.Spyte, that aren't quite at pro level yet? I'm happy for her, but it does look a bit strange to me to have a mid-high masters player on the main team while there are GM players on the academy team. This is pretttttty much my take on it aswell. Congrats to her, but yeah.... True, but Spyte's exposure and placement in tournaments aren't at the level of the Academy team. It's not in Premier Tournaments or whatever but she's really good relatively (ie. for a girl). And as blunt as that truth might be, it's still the reality of the situation I'm not saying she doesn't deserve it, although it may sound like that in my post. Shes certainly a hard worker with a consistent stream. I can see that they recruited her because of her high exposure as a top streamer and because shes female, but skill wise you cant deny theres a significant discrepancy between her and players like sage, minigun, illusion etc. to the point where it does look a bit weird when you see her on the same roster as those kind of players. Her staying at the ROOT house is a great thing for her, but from the perspective of the other residents, who are (almost) all korean GM level, they cant really practice with her because of the difference in skill level. Like it or not, but this too, is the reality of the situation. everyone knows this already. everyone realizes that women who compete at a master+ level in SC get special recognition. there is no one, anywhere, in any universe, arguing that ms spyte is as good as sage, illusion or minigun. no one has ever said that or believed it or even suspected it there is a good reason women get more hype in this community: because women succeeding at SC is fun and interesting to watch, and the more it happens, the more women will potentially WANT to become involved in SC, which increases the playerbase and makes it more diverse and welcoming, as well as being a good sign for gender politics in general hope this helps Yeah, I'm aware I was kind of stating the obvious. But is this really how we want it? With that kind of thinking we, by which i mean foreign teams, can wave goodbye to any kind of hope to ever catch up or even compete with Koreans in the future. Sure there should be a place for dedicated personalities in sc2, male and female, but it doesnt have to be the main roster of one the top foreign teams. How do Koreans get so good? Dedication. What does Ms.Spyte have? Dedication. A major part of Korean success in Sc2 is the environment they play in; Ms.Spyte's now in a much better environment as well. Everybody has to be in masters before they're GM. I don't have a problem with ROOT's decision; it might even be a good thing to recruit other players in high masters who seem dedicated and then see what they can accomplish. What the NA scene (maybe even EU too) needs right now is openness and a little bit of passion, not cut-throat win-at-all-costs attitudes. This doesn't seem like it's a problem : o
Talent is a pretty big factor as well. It isn't shocking the top BW players from KeSPA transitioned over and became some of the top SC2 players in a matter of months. Possibly even weeks. I don't think they plateaued at middle Masters very long.
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The only decent female zerg i watch. I watch kaitlyn but you know why hehe
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This reminds me of when CIS teams announce they've signed female players/teams for purely PR purposes. Call me a skeptic, because I probably am. I just have no idea what else they could possibly gain as a team even if she becomes good enough to reach GM.
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Great pick up. Congrats to Ms.Spyte and Root.
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On March 02 2014 12:24 Harajuku wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2014 11:39 Waise wrote:On March 02 2014 09:18 Harajuku wrote:On March 02 2014 09:08 Tipany wrote:On March 02 2014 08:41 PromisesPlays wrote:On March 02 2014 08:07 Harajuku wrote:
This is cool, but don't ROOT have an Academy team, SEED, specifically for up-and-comers, such as Ms.Spyte, that aren't quite at pro level yet? I'm happy for her, but it does look a bit strange to me to have a mid-high masters player on the main team while there are GM players on the academy team. This is pretttttty much my take on it aswell. Congrats to her, but yeah.... True, but Spyte's exposure and placement in tournaments aren't at the level of the Academy team. It's not in Premier Tournaments or whatever but she's really good relatively (ie. for a girl). And as blunt as that truth might be, it's still the reality of the situation I'm not saying she doesn't deserve it, although it may sound like that in my post. Shes certainly a hard worker with a consistent stream. I can see that they recruited her because of her high exposure as a top streamer and because shes female, but skill wise you cant deny theres a significant discrepancy between her and players like sage, minigun, illusion etc. to the point where it does look a bit weird when you see her on the same roster as those kind of players. Her staying at the ROOT house is a great thing for her, but from the perspective of the other residents, who are (almost) all korean GM level, they cant really practice with her because of the difference in skill level. Like it or not, but this too, is the reality of the situation. everyone knows this already. everyone realizes that women who compete at a master+ level in SC get special recognition. there is no one, anywhere, in any universe, arguing that ms spyte is as good as sage, illusion or minigun. no one has ever said that or believed it or even suspected it there is a good reason women get more hype in this community: because women succeeding at SC is fun and interesting to watch, and the more it happens, the more women will potentially WANT to become involved in SC, which increases the playerbase and makes it more diverse and welcoming, as well as being a good sign for gender politics in general hope this helps Yeah, I'm aware I was kind of stating the obvious. But is this really how we want it? With that kind of thinking we, by which i mean foreign teams, can wave goodbye to any kind of hope to ever catch up or even compete with Koreans in the future. Sure there should be a place for dedicated personalities in sc2, male and female, but it doesnt have to be the main roster of one the top foreign teams.
Dude Prime is a Korean team, and they have Barbie on the main roster, even though she's pretty much just a host for korean tournaments and a personality at this point. Having her on the roster or in the team house isn't a big deal really, ROOT is just supporting her and putting their name behind her. It really has nothing to do with foreign teams "catching up to korean teams", because that is going to come from the overall growth of the foreign scene in general. There are several Korean teams that have players on the main roster that aren't necessarily used in ProLeague or sent to high level tournaments. You have no idea what you are talking about apparently.
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I know the "pro team picking up female" is always a hot button issue, but I think in this specific circumstance we can say, with a lot of certainty, that she would have been signed if she was male.
Regardless of her league, she's still consistently in the top 15 for viewership, and in a similar place for streaming hours as well.
Granted, a lot of her viewership is probably because of her gender, but numbers are still numbers.
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gratz to Coryn & ROOT. Makes sense for both parties. Fingers crossed that with the ease of access to the talent & knowledge of the other ROOT players she can break into GM. She seems to have the dedication.
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On March 02 2014 05:45 ROOTiaguz wrote:An accurate representation of the ROOT house atm ![[image loading]](http://www.marriedtothesea.com/010609/lady-parade.gif)
i think iaguz just bcame my favorite foreign terran lol
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