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starslayer
Profile Joined August 2011
United States696 Posts
March 04 2014 06:38 GMT
#161
On March 04 2014 13:47 TLCDR wrote:
almost 10 pages and no red? i am disappointed tl

dont worry we will get one
i came here to kickass and chew bubblegum and i'm all out of bubble gum
starslayer
Profile Joined August 2011
United States696 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-04 07:03:11
March 04 2014 06:55 GMT
#162
On March 04 2014 07:12 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2014 04:27 Plansix wrote:
This discuss would not exist she was a male player of the same skill. Everyone would just say that it's awesome Root is investing in rising talent.


Nope, people would still find something to complain about. "lol who", "why not pick up X Korean who is available and much better" xD

And to other people in this thread, yeah a world where skill is valued just as much if not more so than pure personality would be great, but that's never been the case, in fact we're closer than we've ever been to that. Let's not forget that in the West opportunistic people like Fatal1ty, whose reputation far exceeds his actual skill, are still more famous and have made wayyyy more stack than people who are actually really good at FPS games... nuff said. ;p


?? didnt fatal1ty make most if not all his "stacks" from winning a bunch of fps tourneys? so im not sure what you mean yes team can pick up players cause there popular but he had to have some skill to win all them tourneys which made the reputation.
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knOxStarcraft
Profile Joined March 2012
Canada422 Posts
March 04 2014 07:09 GMT
#163
On March 04 2014 04:27 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2014 04:17 ffadicted wrote:
On March 04 2014 04:13 Plansix wrote:
On March 04 2014 03:46 SPYTE wrote:
well this is awkward.................

Don't worry, the majority of the community is pumped your on the team. The minority are just having the debate that always happens when female gamers come up. It's the standard "she's a girl and there are boys that are better than her in my opinion. Why you no pick them up?!?"

Sometimes the community forgets that girls are dope and more girls in the community makes everything better.


It's not about girls lol It's hard to not debate/get worked up when something happens that shows that foreign Starcraft is still quite a long ways from becoming something more legitimate. The day when popularity is not more lucrative than skill is a day I look forward to, and a day I really hope comes. Gender is meaningless to me.

All I see in this thread is a bunch of "I don't think she should have gotten the slot and only get it because she is a lady," masked behind arguments of how evolved the scene is in NA. This discuss would not exist she was a male player of the same skill. Everyone would just say that it's awesome Root is investing in rising talent.

And it's does change the fact the female players are dope and the cut off for them being accepted into the scene should be "smash at least 4 code S Korean players to over come the questions caused by your gender"
"
A male player of the same skill wouldn't get picked up by a professional team unless they had the stream numbers spyte does. I hate to burst your bubble but spyte isn't "rising talent"; she's a mid masters player, and got picked up because of stream numbers to show sponsors.

I really don't understand why there is this big of a discussion already. A female gamer got picked up by a professional team because of stream numbers, not because she's an up and coming GM player or something. OBVIOUSLY there is nothing wrong with this, it's good for both parties and the scene.
sigm
Profile Joined December 2010
192 Posts
March 04 2014 07:40 GMT
#164
On March 04 2014 00:10 Nekovivie wrote:
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On March 03 2014 09:36 sigm wrote:
Let's just hope she manages to pick up some skills over time to justify this. We wouldn't want to think that she was picked just to bring a pretty face to the team, right?


I bet she could beat you

Seeing as how I haven't played SC2 since the WoL beta, I bet 99% of the people in Bronze could beat me. That's why you don't see me in a professional team. But I don't really see how my inability to play has anything to do with her potential skill.
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
March 04 2014 08:47 GMT
#165
Solid player picked up here, and she's damn cute to boot.
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MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
March 04 2014 11:33 GMT
#166
On March 04 2014 15:55 starslayer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2014 07:12 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On March 04 2014 04:27 Plansix wrote:
This discuss would not exist she was a male player of the same skill. Everyone would just say that it's awesome Root is investing in rising talent.


Nope, people would still find something to complain about. "lol who", "why not pick up X Korean who is available and much better" xD

And to other people in this thread, yeah a world where skill is valued just as much if not more so than pure personality would be great, but that's never been the case, in fact we're closer than we've ever been to that. Let's not forget that in the West opportunistic people like Fatal1ty, whose reputation far exceeds his actual skill, are still more famous and have made wayyyy more stack than people who are actually really good at FPS games... nuff said. ;p


?? didnt fatal1ty make most if not all his "stacks" from winning a bunch of fps tourneys? so im not sure what you mean yes team can pick up players cause there popular but he had to have some skill to win all them tourneys which made the reputation.


You are grossly misinformed, I'm afraid.
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
cocosoft
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden1068 Posts
March 04 2014 12:30 GMT
#167
On March 03 2014 03:36 Cheeseling wrote:2. I hope she is mentally ready for all this attention, especially random "it's only because you have boobs, show them", "i will subscribe if you blow" or even death threats. Being only female competitive progamer has its costs and it's like magnet for all the internet wilderness. I don't know if she has guts for this. All that hate can make your life 10 years shorter and for what, couple of gaming fame moments?

I never understand this argument, do you naively think that male games doesn't get a lot of death threats and hate too?
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-04 13:23:54
March 04 2014 13:23 GMT
#168
On March 04 2014 15:38 starslayer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2014 13:47 TLCDR wrote:
almost 10 pages and no red? i am disappointed tl

dont worry we will get one


I'm thinking about it, not sure if worth it

+ Show Spoiler +
wow impressive how far boobs can get you


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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26773 Posts
March 04 2014 13:28 GMT
#169
Best of luck to MsSpyte, interesting to see how she develops. As no other female player picked up at this level to a foreign team has gotten remotely close to being a competitive pro it'd be cool to see her be the one to do it

I don't see why the competitive scene 'needs' girls in it, if they get there they get there which would be cool
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ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
March 04 2014 13:39 GMT
#170
On March 04 2014 22:23 KalWarkov wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2014 15:38 starslayer wrote:
On March 04 2014 13:47 TLCDR wrote:
almost 10 pages and no red? i am disappointed tl

dont worry we will get one


I'm thinking about it, not sure if worth it

+ Show Spoiler +
wow impressive how far boobs can get you

Nice try!
gingerfluffmuff
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria4570 Posts
March 04 2014 13:49 GMT
#171
On March 04 2014 22:39 ZenithM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2014 22:23 KalWarkov wrote:
On March 04 2014 15:38 starslayer wrote:
On March 04 2014 13:47 TLCDR wrote:
almost 10 pages and no red? i am disappointed tl

dont worry we will get one


I'm thinking about it, not sure if worth it

+ Show Spoiler +
wow impressive how far boobs can get you

Nice try!

Actually its no surprise, 90% of foreign players are basically there for the marketing. I am still impressed that the whole system works and korean players havent taken all the foreign teams over yet.

If Lady Spyte brings new people and viewers into the sc2 scene/ her team, its good for everybody :D.
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StatixEx
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United Kingdom779 Posts
March 04 2014 16:47 GMT
#172
On March 04 2014 05:23 EJK wrote:
(idra rage will 99.999999% of the time get you nowhere unless you are idra)


But this is what we all want to see. the sc2 scene is pretty boring now. No-one 'shots firied' or calling people out anymore, theres simply noone around getting the hype train going. is still watch just as much sc2 as ever but it really does seem processional now. same filler comments from casters about quite boring people who we know not much about

destiny, idra, combatex and a few others were excellent personalities love to hate them or whatever . . .damn i miss these days
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
March 04 2014 16:59 GMT
#173
On March 05 2014 01:47 StatixEx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2014 05:23 EJK wrote:
(idra rage will 99.999999% of the time get you nowhere unless you are idra)


But this is what we all want to see. the sc2 scene is pretty boring now. No-one 'shots firied' or calling people out anymore, theres simply noone around getting the hype train going. is still watch just as much sc2 as ever but it really does seem processional now. same filler comments from casters about quite boring people who we know not much about

destiny, idra, combatex and a few others were excellent personalities love to hate them or whatever . . .damn i miss these days


No, this is what people who don't care about the game want to see. The rest of us? We want to watch the actual game.
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
EJK
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
United States1302 Posts
March 04 2014 17:02 GMT
#174
On March 05 2014 01:47 StatixEx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2014 05:23 EJK wrote:
(idra rage will 99.999999% of the time get you nowhere unless you are idra)


But this is what we all want to see. the sc2 scene is pretty boring now. No-one 'shots firied' or calling people out anymore, theres simply noone around getting the hype train going. is still watch just as much sc2 as ever but it really does seem processional now. same filler comments from casters about quite boring people who we know not much about

destiny, idra, combatex and a few others were excellent personalities love to hate them or whatever . . .damn i miss these days

no. that's exactly the kind of poison mentality that makes the NA scene so bad, caring about drama over skill
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gingerfluffmuff
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria4570 Posts
March 04 2014 17:02 GMT
#175
On March 05 2014 01:59 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2014 01:47 StatixEx wrote:
On March 04 2014 05:23 EJK wrote:
(idra rage will 99.999999% of the time get you nowhere unless you are idra)


But this is what we all want to see. the sc2 scene is pretty boring now. No-one 'shots firied' or calling people out anymore, theres simply noone around getting the hype train going. is still watch just as much sc2 as ever but it really does seem processional now. same filler comments from casters about quite boring people who we know not much about

destiny, idra, combatex and a few others were excellent personalities love to hate them or whatever . . .damn i miss these days


No, this is what people who don't care about the game want to see. The rest of us? We want to watch the actual game.

Hell yes, we do. GSL and SPL atm, sprinkled with WCS EU. Sc2 content overflow.
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9-BiT
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States1089 Posts
March 04 2014 17:14 GMT
#176
On March 04 2014 04:27 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2014 04:17 ffadicted wrote:
On March 04 2014 04:13 Plansix wrote:
On March 04 2014 03:46 SPYTE wrote:
well this is awkward.................

Don't worry, the majority of the community is pumped your on the team. The minority are just having the debate that always happens when female gamers come up. It's the standard "she's a girl and there are boys that are better than her in my opinion. Why you no pick them up?!?"

Sometimes the community forgets that girls are dope and more girls in the community makes everything better.


It's not about girls lol It's hard to not debate/get worked up when something happens that shows that foreign Starcraft is still quite a long ways from becoming something more legitimate. The day when popularity is not more lucrative than skill is a day I look forward to, and a day I really hope comes. Gender is meaningless to me.

All I see in this thread is a bunch of "I don't think she should have gotten the slot and only get it because she is a lady," masked behind arguments of how evolved the scene is in NA. This discuss would not exist she was a male player of the same skill. Everyone would just say that it's awesome Root is investing in rising talent.

And it's does change the fact the female players are dope and the cut off for them being accepted into the scene should be "smash at least 4 code S Korean players to over come the questions caused by your gender"

I don't think anyone would support a team picking up a mid masters player as part of their roster.
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
March 04 2014 17:29 GMT
#177
On March 05 2014 02:14 9-BiT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2014 04:27 Plansix wrote:
On March 04 2014 04:17 ffadicted wrote:
On March 04 2014 04:13 Plansix wrote:
On March 04 2014 03:46 SPYTE wrote:
well this is awkward.................

Don't worry, the majority of the community is pumped your on the team. The minority are just having the debate that always happens when female gamers come up. It's the standard "she's a girl and there are boys that are better than her in my opinion. Why you no pick them up?!?"

Sometimes the community forgets that girls are dope and more girls in the community makes everything better.


It's not about girls lol It's hard to not debate/get worked up when something happens that shows that foreign Starcraft is still quite a long ways from becoming something more legitimate. The day when popularity is not more lucrative than skill is a day I look forward to, and a day I really hope comes. Gender is meaningless to me.

All I see in this thread is a bunch of "I don't think she should have gotten the slot and only get it because she is a lady," masked behind arguments of how evolved the scene is in NA. This discuss would not exist she was a male player of the same skill. Everyone would just say that it's awesome Root is investing in rising talent.

And it's does change the fact the female players are dope and the cut off for them being accepted into the scene should be "smash at least 4 code S Korean players to over come the questions caused by your gender"

I don't think anyone would support a team picking up a mid masters player as part of their roster.

Sure they would if the team said the player "has a lot if potential and will greatly improve with the practice our team provides." It's not like Xenocider was ripping up the NA ladder and crushing faces before RG signed him.
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DoubleReed
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4130 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-04 22:45:48
March 04 2014 22:40 GMT
#178
On March 05 2014 01:47 StatixEx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2014 05:23 EJK wrote:
(idra rage will 99.999999% of the time get you nowhere unless you are idra)


But this is what we all want to see. the sc2 scene is pretty boring now. No-one 'shots firied' or calling people out anymore, theres simply noone around getting the hype train going. is still watch just as much sc2 as ever but it really does seem processional now. same filler comments from casters about quite boring people who we know not much about

destiny, idra, combatex and a few others were excellent personalities love to hate them or whatever . . .damn i miss these days


I have no idea how you define "excellent personality."

That being said, I would like to see more players take the heel role. They don't have to be assholes or anything, but, you know, play up the evil.

Anyway, Spyte rocks I hope she teaches ROOT a thing or two.
playa
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1284 Posts
March 04 2014 22:51 GMT
#179
On March 05 2014 02:29 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2014 02:14 9-BiT wrote:
On March 04 2014 04:27 Plansix wrote:
On March 04 2014 04:17 ffadicted wrote:
On March 04 2014 04:13 Plansix wrote:
On March 04 2014 03:46 SPYTE wrote:
well this is awkward.................

Don't worry, the majority of the community is pumped your on the team. The minority are just having the debate that always happens when female gamers come up. It's the standard "she's a girl and there are boys that are better than her in my opinion. Why you no pick them up?!?"

Sometimes the community forgets that girls are dope and more girls in the community makes everything better.


It's not about girls lol It's hard to not debate/get worked up when something happens that shows that foreign Starcraft is still quite a long ways from becoming something more legitimate. The day when popularity is not more lucrative than skill is a day I look forward to, and a day I really hope comes. Gender is meaningless to me.

All I see in this thread is a bunch of "I don't think she should have gotten the slot and only get it because she is a lady," masked behind arguments of how evolved the scene is in NA. This discuss would not exist she was a male player of the same skill. Everyone would just say that it's awesome Root is investing in rising talent.

And it's does change the fact the female players are dope and the cut off for them being accepted into the scene should be "smash at least 4 code S Korean players to over come the questions caused by your gender"

I don't think anyone would support a team picking up a mid masters player as part of their roster.

Sure they would if the team said the player "has a lot if potential and will greatly improve with the practice our team provides." It's not like Xenocider was ripping up the NA ladder and crushing faces before RG signed him.


I'm sure Xenocider was doing well in GM before then. For a team to pick up a mid-master player, popularity aside, they would have to be around 10 years old to really intrigue any one enough. Just look at SEED, though; I believe they had Intense: a young NA Terran player who is not only GM on NA but was GM on Korea. The guy has high apm and all the attributes you'd look for, yet not enough to get on the main team. If he was a girl, GM on NA, alone, obviously would have been enough, though.




MotorDouglas
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil66 Posts
March 04 2014 23:12 GMT
#180
well this thread just became a storm of shit, congratulations people.
speaking of congratulations, congratulations gurl
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