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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On March 04 2014 03:46 SPYTE wrote: well this is awkward................. Don't worry, the majority of the community is pumped your on the team. The minority are just having the debate that always happens when female gamers come up. It's the standard "she's a girl and there are boys that are better than her in my opinion. Why you no pick them up?!?" Sometimes the community forgets that girls are dope and more girls in the community makes everything better. | ||
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ffadicted
United States3545 Posts
On March 04 2014 04:13 Plansix wrote: Don't worry, the majority of the community is pumped your on the team. The minority are just having the debate that always happens when female gamers come up. It's the standard "she's a girl and there are boys that are better than her in my opinion. Why you no pick them up?!?" Sometimes the community forgets that girls are dope and more girls in the community makes everything better. It's not about girls lol It's hard to not debate/get worked up when something happens that shows that foreign Starcraft is still quite a long ways from becoming something more legitimate. The day when popularity is not more lucrative than skill is a day I look forward to, and a day I really hope comes. Gender is meaningless to me. | ||
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MonkeyBot
United States125 Posts
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On March 04 2014 04:17 ffadicted wrote: It's not about girls lol It's hard to not debate/get worked up when something happens that shows that foreign Starcraft is still quite a long ways from becoming something more legitimate. The day when popularity is not more lucrative than skill is a day I look forward to, and a day I really hope comes. Gender is meaningless to me. All I see in this thread is a bunch of "I don't think she should have gotten the slot and only get it because she is a lady," masked behind arguments of how evolved the scene is in NA. This discuss would not exist she was a male player of the same skill. Everyone would just say that it's awesome Root is investing in rising talent. And it's does change the fact the female players are dope and the cut off for them being accepted into the scene should be "smash at least 4 code S Korean players to over come the questions caused by your gender" | ||
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Zorkmid
4410 Posts
On March 04 2014 03:46 SPYTE wrote: well this is awkward................. It's what TL does best! | ||
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mainerd
United States347 Posts
On March 04 2014 04:13 Plansix wrote: Don't worry, the majority of the community is pumped your on the team. The minority are just having the debate that always happens when female gamers come up. It's the standard "she's a girl and there are boys that are better than her in my opinion. Why you no pick them up?!?" Sometimes the community forgets that girls are dope and more girls in the community makes everything better. Pretty sure that's not her, unless she is a male who plays a ton of DOTA 2. I am sure she would appreciate your message though if she's reading the thread. | ||
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MstrJinbo
United States1251 Posts
On March 04 2014 04:13 Plansix wrote: Don't worry, the majority of the community is pumped your on the team. The minority are just having the debate that always happens when female gamers come up. It's the standard "she's a girl and there are boys that are better than her in my opinion. Why you no pick them up?!?" Sometimes the community forgets that girls are dope and more girls in the community makes everything better. Mistaken identity strikes again.  | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
Well on my iPhone it looked legit. Still, my point stands, regardless. Ladies are dope and we need more of them. | ||
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EJK
United States1302 Posts
When I do watch her play, I don't see any specific talents that might set her apart from other zerg players such as speed or strategical poise. However, I see something that is more important than talent and those traits are a positive mentality, a drive to learn, and no ego like 95% of other players seem to have (lack of gg's, I played like shit (which also assumes that you didn't play good), major rage comment inserted here, and the cancer threats). Arguments aside about popularity, I think she deserves a chance to take her skill to the next level more then a lot of other no-name players out there. Above all, I think picking her up puts out a statement that a basic requirement in joining ANY major team is to be well mannered and good natured (idra rage will 99.999999% of the time get you nowhere unless you are idra) | ||
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Cheeseling
Ukraine132 Posts
On March 04 2014 03:40 TotalBiscuit wrote: Honestly I think the way forward is getting NA players involved in teamleague and putting them up against Koreans. Then everyone will complain about no-skill cheesefest. Well... at least old good NA players gonna learn some new tricks. Might be we, as community, are somewhat delusional in our demands and You might show us, what we secretly want, like Apple did. But i don't think that blaming consumer can solve anything and it's truly pathetic. I believe the main problem is incompetent casters. I even made a joke once: "What's common between a whore and SC2 caster? - They both get paid for the screaming". SC2 is pretty old game and it's hard to hype game with fake orgasm instead of clever analysis. It's also one of the reasons of the last "protoss no skill op" rage outbreak because it's really hard to see the little things(especially in timing based play) that differ pro from top master or even diamond player if you are not a pro yourself and that's what casters for. Also i should admit, most of western players treat SC2 as a game, not full time sports. To become really good at something you must work hard on your weak side repeatedly untill it become one of your strongest and it's all about mental endurance and full commitment. I understend they get payed for streaming ladder and they picked SC2 not football or chess because it's more entertaining but it doesn't change law of physics. | ||
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DoubleReed
United States4130 Posts
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EGLzGaMeR
United States1867 Posts
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Little-Chimp
Canada951 Posts
On March 04 2014 04:17 ffadicted wrote: It's not about girls lol It's hard to not debate/get worked up when something happens that shows that foreign Starcraft is still quite a long ways from becoming something more legitimate. The day when popularity is not more lucrative than skill is a day I look forward to, and a day I really hope comes. Gender is meaningless to me. typical diamond leaguer calling out a female progamer stick to mario party KID | ||
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LingBlingBling
United States353 Posts
On March 04 2014 06:48 Little-Chimp wrote: typical diamond leaguer calling out a female progamer stick to mario party KID Would not really call her a pro gamer at all, she's a stream personality wanting to get better at the game. Popular stream is always good for teams to get sponsors to throw more money around, overall a good thing for Root, and hopefully she gets better at the game in return. | ||
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MasterOfPuppets
Romania6942 Posts
On March 04 2014 04:27 Plansix wrote: This discuss would not exist she was a male player of the same skill. Everyone would just say that it's awesome Root is investing in rising talent. Nope, people would still find something to complain about. "lol who", "why not pick up X Korean who is available and much better" xD And to other people in this thread, yeah a world where skill is valued just as much if not more so than pure personality would be great, but that's never been the case, in fact we're closer than we've ever been to that. Let's not forget that in the West opportunistic people like Fatal1ty, whose reputation far exceeds his actual skill, are still more famous and have made wayyyy more stack than people who are actually really good at FPS games... nuff said. ;p | ||
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scott31337
United States2979 Posts
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Clicker
United States1012 Posts
On March 01 2014 21:45 paddyz wrote: ROOT has a way of picking up SC2 players I (& lots of other ppl like), makes it so easy to keep supporting them =D. Best up luck to both. Happy to see em team up Not hard to find them, find top streamers for the month...recruit. | ||
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TLCDR
14 Posts
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playa
United States1284 Posts
On March 04 2014 04:27 Plansix wrote: All I see in this thread is a bunch of "I don't think she should have gotten the slot and only get it because she is a lady," masked behind arguments of how evolved the scene is in NA. This discuss would not exist she was a male player of the same skill. Everyone would just say that it's awesome Root is investing in rising talent. And it's does change the fact the female players are dope and the cut off for them being accepted into the scene should be "smash at least 4 code S Korean players to over come the questions caused by your gender" If she were a male player, she'd be on the Seed academy team, at best. So, really, the same discussion would take place. If you could be a plat player and get more views than someone like minigun, it's hard to blame any team that would pick that person up over a more skilled male. Honestly, I have no idea why most teams don't just become all female teams. The tournament scene is depressing. Not even sarcasm. | ||
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starslayer
United States696 Posts
All I see in this thread is a bunch of "I don't think she should have gotten the slot and only get it because she is a lady," masked behind arguments of how evolved the scene is in NA. This discuss would not exist she was a male player of the same skill. Everyone would just say that it's awesome Root is investing in rising talent. I dont think that true. if root just picked up a random/ some what popular mid-high master streamer and put them on the main roster i think ppl would say some of the same thing like the fact that root has a amateur team that has GM that are already competing in tourneys and team league where (i might be wrong) but i dont think spyte is or at the level to compete yet.it might not be as talked about but it would be talked about. and dont get me wrong I wish all the luck to both root and spyte but IMO i think the best move would have been to put her on SEED because for one it still would get ppl talking but she would still have to work on her game and prove to her self and everyone that she deserves a spot on root by competing and winning. and not just because shes a female and popular which lets be honest is why shes on root not seed but this is an business and as you can see where still talking about it. which is a great move by catz. and really do you think she would get a spot on root if she wasnt a girl really? | ||
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