Oz, aLive, and Revival Leave Evil Geniuses - Page 7

On December 13 2013 12:58 korn101 wrote:

They would at least take something better than last.

On December 13 2013 07:45 Hadronsbecrazy wrote:
granted all of this was expected but it still seems really harsh to contract players JUST to fill up spots on a Proleague team then dump them as soon as they arent needed

On December 13 2013 13:24 washikie wrote:
liquid-alive anyone?

On December 13 2013 13:44 RyLai wrote:
As much as I like the other EG guys, I really wish they would just drop the foreigners and keep the Koreans.

"Sorry, we can't afford spending money on you guys now that we aren't participating in Korean tournaments anymore. Nothing personal, we just wanted you guys so we could have a run at proleague anyway."

On December 13 2013 14:03 SCST wrote:


Uh oh . . . what part of "these guys don't really express any personality to make them valuable" is not coming across here in the thread? I can't imagine that TL would take on these guys at the moment. Nazgul and staff are very smart people - they're not going to add these guys for the same reasons that Alex Garfield is getting rid of them.

I mean, TL is in a better position to add Koreans because they don't rely on sponsors nearly as much as EG, but just look how much work it's taken to get HerO our of his shell. TL has spent countless valuable hotbid-hours coaxing the guy to speak 2 words of English over the years. He's great now, of course, but it's a hell of a time investment to get many of these Korean pro's to make the effort to connect with fans. If they did it on their own like Polt or MC, then I think that's a different scenario. If only the majority of the Koreans realized the value in expressing themselves . . . but they don't.

On December 13 2013 14:09 Darkhoarse wrote:

No one should be forced to artificially change their personalities so some people on a different continent will like them more.

On December 13 2013 14:14 SCST wrote:


Well I agree. But I wouldn't say that HerO expressing himself is at all artificial, for example. It just took a damn long time to get him to do it and overcome his shyness.

Now if you're saying that being shy is part of these guys personalities and they shouldn't have to compromise that - that's a valid claim. But that also applies to anything, really. And in the context or being a professional SC2 player on a team, it doesn't hold up as an argument.

For example: one can argue that a player shouldn't be forced to play in tournaments and wear uniforms with sponsors on them, right? Maybe the player doesn't like to travel, doesn't like crowds, doesn't like uniforms. There's nothing inherently wrong with that, but it also doesn't mean that any legitimate E-sports team is going to add them to the roster, aslo. And can we blame the team for rejecting a player like that? The team needs to make money. This isn't a charity, unfortunately. It's a business model.

The Foreign teams need their players to connect with foreign fans because foreign sponsors are paying the bills. If some Koreans aren't willing to do what's necessary for the team to make them financially viable, then they can't expect to be kept on the roster barring some specialized role.

On December 13 2013 14:26 Darkhoarse wrote:

Oh yeah I totally agree with you. You have to have a strong visible personality to be a favorite of foreign fans (with some exceptions). I was just kinda saying that it sucks