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Oz, aLive, and Revival Leave Evil Geniuses - Page 6

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igay
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Australia1178 Posts
December 13 2013 01:28 GMT
#101
pretty sad
MVP <3 MKP <3 DRG <3
Dontkillme
Profile Joined November 2011
Korea (South)806 Posts
December 13 2013 01:37 GMT
#102
On December 13 2013 07:44 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2013 07:39 j00pdaw00p wrote:
pure jokes when you choose a player like machine over them...i jus dont get it...


As for Machine, I don't get it either, but Demuslim and Incontrol are probably worth a lot more to EG than aLive/Revival/Oz would ever be. They're popular, and no matter how much better the Korean trio is, they aren't. Popularity sells, and EG needs to make money.


I guess I'll never understand business :/ How does popularity help a business earn money? Wouldn't advertising through good players earn more revenue?
Bomber & Jaedong & FlaSh & SNSD <3
XanaNA
Profile Joined September 2013
United States15 Posts
December 13 2013 01:43 GMT
#103
Very sad….Best of luck to the three of them. Hope they find new teams outside of Korea, I liked watching them play in WCS America and other foreign tournaments.
JacobShock
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Denmark2485 Posts
December 13 2013 01:52 GMT
#104
its business, can't say I like it though.
"Right on" - Morrow
YuiHirasawa
Profile Joined August 2012
Japan220 Posts
December 13 2013 01:57 GMT
#105
Is this really that understandable that you have to drop the players who get actual results (I mean something real not shoutcraft) when some others are still allowed to stay even if they are at best mediocre?

Fun things are fun
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-13 02:02:59
December 13 2013 02:01 GMT
#106
On December 13 2013 10:57 YuiHirasawa wrote:
Is this really that understandable that you have to drop the players who get actual results (I mean something real not shoutcraft) when some others are still allowed to stay even if they are at best mediocre?


Depends, do those players provide RIO and make you money? Sponsors fund the team, not wins and all of the companies that fund EG are US or EU companies. Results cannot be turned directly into bitcoins.

Also, shoutcraft was a "real" event, even if it wasn't stacked with Koreans. People watched and sponsors like that.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Diaresta
Profile Joined February 2012
United States597 Posts
December 13 2013 02:05 GMT
#107
Really unfortunate to see these guys go. I really liked Oz, and Alive-- hopefully they'll be able to find a new team.
@Diaresta Huk//Jaedong//Taeja ★EGTL★ ♥Stephano♥ | "Agent 3154, welcome back."
ivancype
Profile Joined December 2012
Brazil485 Posts
December 13 2013 02:33 GMT
#108
They are really good players, specially Oz and aLive, wish Prime could pick them
The other race is OP
korn101
Profile Joined August 2013
United States29 Posts
December 13 2013 02:46 GMT
#109
I guess because JYP has shown the most personality of the 4 (JYP and the 3 who were let go) he gets to stay. Then again, his singing isn't bad.
ZachFreeman
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia484 Posts
December 13 2013 02:53 GMT
#110
Sucks for oz and aLive. We all heard the story about revival and I don't care too much for him anyway.
GIVE ME COMMAND
rename
Profile Joined February 2012
Estonia329 Posts
December 13 2013 02:58 GMT
#111
On December 13 2013 11:01 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2013 10:57 YuiHirasawa wrote:
Is this really that understandable that you have to drop the players who get actual results (I mean something real not shoutcraft) when some others are still allowed to stay even if they are at best mediocre?


Depends, do those players provide RIO and make you money? Sponsors fund the team, not wins and all of the companies that fund EG are US or EU companies. Results cannot be turned directly into bitcoins.

Also, shoutcraft was a "real" event, even if it wasn't stacked with Koreans. People watched and sponsors like that.


People who like results not just personality buy sponsor products too - or rather can start avoiding EG's sponsors after moves they really dont like.
AutumnBear
Profile Joined December 2013
Korea (South)13 Posts
December 13 2013 03:14 GMT
#112
Really sucks for these guys, but it's understandable after EG's move out of Proleague. Such is life in this space.
I will endeavor to persevere
emythrel
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United Kingdom2599 Posts
December 13 2013 03:22 GMT
#113
On December 13 2013 07:45 Hadronsbecrazy wrote:
granted all of this was expected but it still seems really harsh to contract players JUST to fill up spots on a Proleague team then dump them as soon as they arent needed


Have you ever been and visited the real world? Sucks, but thats how it works. They signed 1 year contracts and have finished them.

As for keeping machine instead of these guys, thats obviously not the case. They kept machine inspite of dropping these guys, he doesn't cost probably half as much as one korean. I highly doubt that there was a dicussion that went "We can only afford to keep 1 of these 4 players, lets keep machine" at any time, in any room, in any reality, anywhere in the multi-verse. The simple fact is that they didn't need the koreans anymore and so they cut them to free up money to do other things. Sacking Machine would probably mean they can afford a new toaster for the EG lair.
When there is nothing left to lose but your dignity, it is already gone.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
December 13 2013 03:43 GMT
#114
On December 13 2013 11:58 rename wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2013 11:01 Plansix wrote:
On December 13 2013 10:57 YuiHirasawa wrote:
Is this really that understandable that you have to drop the players who get actual results (I mean something real not shoutcraft) when some others are still allowed to stay even if they are at best mediocre?


Depends, do those players provide RIO and make you money? Sponsors fund the team, not wins and all of the companies that fund EG are US or EU companies. Results cannot be turned directly into bitcoins.

Also, shoutcraft was a "real" event, even if it wasn't stacked with Koreans. People watched and sponsors like that.


People who like results not just personality buy sponsor products too - or rather can start avoiding EG's sponsors after moves they really dont like.

And I am sure that was factored into the decision as well. But Alex Garfield runs the most successful Esports team out there right now, so I am sure he knows what he is doing.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
isaachukfan
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Canada785 Posts
December 13 2013 03:45 GMT
#115
Imagine if all three of these guys go over to Prime to continue in Proleague
I'm a mennonite, yes I'm allowed to use a computer
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
December 13 2013 03:47 GMT
#116
On December 13 2013 11:58 rename wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2013 11:01 Plansix wrote:
On December 13 2013 10:57 YuiHirasawa wrote:
Is this really that understandable that you have to drop the players who get actual results (I mean something real not shoutcraft) when some others are still allowed to stay even if they are at best mediocre?


Depends, do those players provide RIO and make you money? Sponsors fund the team, not wins and all of the companies that fund EG are US or EU companies. Results cannot be turned directly into bitcoins.

Also, shoutcraft was a "real" event, even if it wasn't stacked with Koreans. People watched and sponsors like that.


People who like results not just personality buy sponsor products too - or rather can start avoiding EG's sponsors after moves they really dont like.

Unfortunate fact of the business is that good results are a drop in the bucket compared to personality. Just look at the stream numbers.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
Nightsz
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada398 Posts
December 13 2013 03:51 GMT
#117
Guess we'll be expecting new recruits for EG

Piratezerg
Moustachezerg
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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
December 13 2013 03:53 GMT
#118
On December 13 2013 12:45 isaachukfan wrote:
Imagine if all three of these guys go over to Prime to continue in Proleague

Prime would still be pretty screwed. Revival, aLive, Oz, Creator, and Byun every matchup wouldn't be that great.
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korn101
Profile Joined August 2013
United States29 Posts
December 13 2013 03:58 GMT
#119
On December 13 2013 12:53 Darkhoarse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2013 12:45 isaachukfan wrote:
Imagine if all three of these guys go over to Prime to continue in Proleague

Prime would still be pretty screwed. Revival, aLive, Oz, Creator, and Byun every matchup wouldn't be that great.

They would at least take something better than last.
DavoS
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States4605 Posts
December 13 2013 04:00 GMT
#120
I really don't agree with letting go of aLive. He might not be a good personality, but he was incredibly consistent all year and knowing that all the guys on EG had such a strong Terran to practice with must have been a big benefit too
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