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EG's Lair in the New York Times - Page 5

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NeThZOR
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
South Africa7387 Posts
September 29 2013 13:16 GMT
#81
This is good for eSports
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UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
September 29 2013 13:16 GMT
#82
On September 29 2013 22:07 Noocta wrote:
So we are okay at blatantly lying to mainstream media about how Esport is doing to get attention now ?
Because either EG has a money machine in the backroom, or this article is full of bullshit.


Esports as a whole is doing incredibly well right now... just sayin'.
Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7032 Posts
September 29 2013 13:22 GMT
#83
On September 29 2013 22:07 Noocta wrote:
So we are okay at blatantly lying to mainstream media about how Esport is doing to get attention now ?
Because either EG has a money machine in the backroom, or this article is full of bullshit.

Also, I feel like we should never have tried to use the term "Esport". It's just getting us weird look. People outside of the industry just don't understand why this should be a sport. Would have been so much easier if we were just professional videogames competitors.

It used to be called cybergames in, like, the 80's. I think that's cooler than iPhone and eSports.
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Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
September 29 2013 13:24 GMT
#84
On September 29 2013 22:16 UmberBane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2013 22:07 Noocta wrote:
So we are okay at blatantly lying to mainstream media about how Esport is doing to get attention now ?
Because either EG has a money machine in the backroom, or this article is full of bullshit.


Esports as a whole is doing incredibly well right now... just sayin'.


Not to the point for someone like Demuslim to make 80k a year. I can't believe that.
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UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
September 29 2013 13:29 GMT
#85
On September 29 2013 22:24 Noocta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2013 22:16 UmberBane wrote:
On September 29 2013 22:07 Noocta wrote:
So we are okay at blatantly lying to mainstream media about how Esport is doing to get attention now ?
Because either EG has a money machine in the backroom, or this article is full of bullshit.


Esports as a whole is doing incredibly well right now... just sayin'.


Not to the point for someone like Demuslim to make 80k a year. I can't believe that.


Yeah, that sounds way too high, I agree, but I guess it's somewhat futile to go into detail here, so I've decided to give the benefit of the doubt to him at least in it not being a straight up lie. Maybe those were older numbers? EG and salary/money is such an old and tiresome topic anyway, lol
dreamseller
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
Australia914 Posts
September 29 2013 13:31 GMT
#86
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TaishiCi
Profile Joined September 2013
Korea (South)211 Posts
September 29 2013 13:41 GMT
#87
On September 29 2013 22:07 Noocta wrote:
So we are okay at blatantly lying to mainstream media about how Esport is doing to get attention now ?
Because either EG has a money machine in the backroom, or this article is full of bullshit.

Also, I feel like we should never have tried to use the term "Esport". It's just getting us weird look. People outside of the industry just don't understand why this should be a sport. Would have been so much easier if we were just professional videogames competitors.

The article is complete bullshit, to put up something like this on nytimes where there is national attention isn't a smart move.
"eSports" is a bit ambitious, calling sticks like Thorzain or shorties like Huk athletes is laughable.
Texas hold'em receives national coverage on ESPN being honest about what they are playing.
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GrapeApe
Profile Joined March 2011
1053 Posts
September 29 2013 14:02 GMT
#88
This article should be in a 'You Cringe, You Lose' thread :\
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Diaresta
Profile Joined February 2012
United States597 Posts
September 29 2013 14:45 GMT
#89
Always good to see esports viewed in a positive light in articles like these.

The stereotypes kinda' irked me, but It's better than no article at all, I guess.
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Zerste
Profile Joined September 2010
United States112 Posts
September 29 2013 15:17 GMT
#90
Is it sad that despite some people's arguments here, that all I can say to myself is "Eh, it could definitely be worse?"

Off Topic a bit, but I own the same gray/black striped v-neck that Demuslim is wearing in this video and that excites me more than it should.
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
September 29 2013 15:20 GMT
#91
I like that esports gets some coverage in more broadly viewed media, but reading articles written by people who don't know a thing about esports is a little cringeworthy. I guess that's just the price you pay for publicity.
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Quotidian
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway1937 Posts
September 29 2013 15:34 GMT
#92
Machine must not know who Michael Jordan is..
Cassalina
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States65 Posts
September 29 2013 15:39 GMT
#93
i like the way Alex Garfield put it, it's not a question of whether it's a sport or not, the culture really will dictate what professional gaming is and that's that. I really wouldn't EVER call video games sports, nor would i call someone who sits at a computer for hours on end playing video games an athlete, but there are so many parallels that i'm glad to see it's getting some recognition !

and when Machine said they were the Michael Jordans of video games, i think he was referring to professional gamers in general, not him or his team.
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Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
September 29 2013 15:52 GMT
#94
Dudes need to fucking take showers and clean up their moldy food LOL.
UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-29 16:01:08
September 29 2013 15:53 GMT
#95
To me it's in a similar "gray area" as using the terms Billard-sports or Dart-sports. You don't really call it sports, because they aren't, but that's precisely why you invent these slightly adjusted terms, since they still have quite a bit in common.

By the way I just wondered, is there another industry or scene or whatever that, just like e-sports, has a very sports-like infrastructure with the teams, sponsors, coaches, analysts, player transfers and whatnot, but isn't actually a sport?
1Dhalism
Profile Joined June 2012
862 Posts
September 29 2013 16:11 GMT
#96
seems like the author knew what he was gonna write way before he stepped into the lair.
Happygreek
Profile Joined April 2012
United States220 Posts
September 29 2013 16:34 GMT
#97
On September 29 2013 19:51 Jibba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2013 13:39 Bigtony wrote:
On September 29 2013 13:36 N.geNuity wrote:
What a shitty article in all honesty



It has some positive notes but also focuses repeatedly on 'stereotypical nerd markers.' Commenting on how late they sleep? Their hygiene? Ugggghh at least it is not overtly aggressive.

Except these things are still issues. Maelk and Kaci had that whole bit at TI3, predicated by the reddit thread complaining about people at the event who didn't shower. At fighting game events, it's so bad.

We know the cleanliness is pretty gross and Machine brought up improper hours himself.

Motherfuckers (in general, not just this article) need to learn to take care of themselves, like adults. Or at least when reporters are coming by. I think the article portrayed what went on without any judgment, and some people here are taking offense because they're embarrassed by it.


I can see this. The idea that 20-somethings need a house mom and maids in the first place definitely embarrasses me a little.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46130 Posts
September 29 2013 16:35 GMT
#98
This article reeked of ignorant stereotypes and hyperbole, but I suppose any publicity is good publicity.
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playnice
Profile Joined October 2011
Malaysia302 Posts
September 29 2013 16:49 GMT
#99
On September 30 2013 00:53 UmberBane wrote:
To me it's in a similar "gray area" as using the terms Billard-sports or Dart-sports. You don't really call it sports, because they aren't, but that's precisely why you invent these slightly adjusted terms, since they still have quite a bit in common.

By the way I just wondered, is there another industry or scene or whatever that, just like e-sports, has a very sports-like infrastructure with the teams, sponsors, coaches, analysts, player transfers and whatnot, but isn't actually a sport?

The closest thing I can think of is F1. I always feel that competitive Starcraft is like a combination of F1 and a 1v1 sport.
UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
September 29 2013 16:57 GMT
#100
Oh I thought F1 was already considered a sport, but I don't really follow it, haha. Good one, though. It's definitely a similar "on the edge" kind of thing.
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