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EG's Lair in the New York Times

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Kyir
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1047 Posts
September 29 2013 01:53 GMT
#1
It was 3 p.m. and the California sunlight was beating at the windows, but the Lair’s front shutters were drawn tight, leaving the gamers to focus in the darkness on their training, which meant playing video games from dawn to dusk each day, or from dusk to dawn each night. Their physical needs had been seen to: the kitchen refrigerator was stocked with bagels, the living room cooler with caffeinated sports drinks. At their flashing terminals, the four young men were immersed enough in work that they hardly noticed the two maids feather-dusting everything around them — and occasionally poking a vacuum cleaner between their legs.


http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/29/sports/grooming-the-champions-of-the-keyboard.html?hp

Always neat to see gaming get some recognition that isn't negative from a major media outlet.
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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
September 29 2013 02:02 GMT
#2
I like how he says he won't talk about income and then goes on to give an approx income and I see he's still trying to compare his original brand to the Yankees. hue. Regardless at least this isn't another blog article.
MichaelDonovan
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1453 Posts
September 29 2013 02:13 GMT
#3
EG.Machine: "We're the Michael Jordans of the game we play." Hmm...
ymir233
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States8275 Posts
September 29 2013 02:13 GMT
#4
This is nice exposure in a general sense, but captions like "quickly lucrative" is worrying me. Fast ascent is always linked with "hype bubble" and that's never good.

Also, Yankees of video games lols

EG winning all the tournaments :V
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chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-29 02:14:48
September 29 2013 02:14 GMT
#5
I think its really cool to see E-Sports in the media in a positive sense. Also Alex calling out people who don't think video games should be sports was pretty boss IMO
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
September 29 2013 02:14 GMT
#6
“Take a guy like Ben,” said Garfield, referring to DeMusliM, whose real name is Benjamin Baker. “He’s been doing this since he was 15. Now he’s 23. He earns, let’s say, 60 to 80 grand a year, plus tournaments and endorsements." that actually is a pretty impressive salary if EG is really paying that.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33578 Posts
September 29 2013 02:15 GMT
#7
kind of interesting to see them do anotehr piece like this so soon after the MLG piece
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Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
September 29 2013 02:15 GMT
#8
On September 29 2013 11:13 ymir233 wrote:


Also, Yankees of video games lols

EG winning all the tournaments :V

If he is talking about the Yankees in the last few years, its spot on. Aging heroes, former or otherwise, + costly rosterl + minimal results describes them to a t.
Ljas
Profile Joined July 2012
Finland725 Posts
September 29 2013 02:20 GMT
#9
Is there a Dota player who also happens to have the last name Baker? The article and especially the slideshow keep implying that "Baker" is a Dota 2 player.
sYz-Adrenaline
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States1850 Posts
September 29 2013 02:22 GMT
#10
On September 29 2013 11:15 Waxangel wrote:
kind of interesting to see them do anotehr piece like this so soon after the MLG piece


what piece are you talking about?
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Kyir
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1047 Posts
September 29 2013 02:25 GMT
#11
On September 29 2013 11:22 sYz-Adrenaline wrote:
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On September 29 2013 11:15 Waxangel wrote:
kind of interesting to see them do anotehr piece like this so soon after the MLG piece


what piece are you talking about?


Probably http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/11/nyregion/seeking-to-be-both-nfl-and-espn-of-video-gaming.html?pagewanted=all
UnKooL
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)1667 Posts
September 29 2013 02:30 GMT
#12
Demuslim switched to dota?
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Dubzex
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6994 Posts
September 29 2013 02:33 GMT
#13
Machine is still on EG?
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felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6168 Posts
September 29 2013 02:34 GMT
#14
Well, the Yankee thing is kindof okay - I mean they dump a lot of money on players and aren't doing so well right now.

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WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
September 29 2013 02:36 GMT
#15
On September 29 2013 11:30 UnKooL wrote:
Demuslim switched to dota?

You're the second person to say this, and I see nothing in the article that remotely implied he was doing such a thing.
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FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
September 29 2013 02:40 GMT
#16
I definitely did not see the article portraying hte gamers themselves in a positive light, but rather as super introverted individuals who lack social skills. Then again, it was Anna who admitted it...
fuzzylogic44
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada2633 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-29 02:48:44
September 29 2013 02:47 GMT
#17
What I didn't like about this is the one shot of a live tournament they showed was the Red Bull Seattle thing in a lecture hall. Made it look really mickey mouse.
OuchyDathurts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4588 Posts
September 29 2013 02:51 GMT
#18
On September 29 2013 11:36 WolfintheSheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2013 11:30 UnKooL wrote:
Demuslim switched to dota?

You're the second person to say this, and I see nothing in the article that remotely implied he was doing such a thing.

Baker practicing Dota 2.


Bryce Bates, left, who is known as Machine, and Baker. Bates is a StarCraft gamer.


Baker’s desk is equipped for a day of practice playing Dota 2 at the Evil Geniuses’ team house.


Some of the captions imply he plays DotA. Which he does do sometimes, but that's obviously not what he's known for.
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WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
September 29 2013 02:51 GMT
#19
On September 29 2013 11:40 FabledIntegral wrote:
I definitely did not see the article portraying hte gamers themselves in a positive light, but rather as super introverted individuals who lack social skills. Then again, it was Anna who admitted it...

To be fair, it sounds like an article written by someone who actually took the time to research his story. If that's how the players are, then so be it...I'd rather a story be too truthful than vague and wishy-washy.
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fuzzylogic44
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada2633 Posts
September 29 2013 02:51 GMT
#20
Within the Lair, a tautly focused silence tends to reign. It is broken only by the patter-clack of keyboards or by occasional exclamations: “Nice shot, dude!” or “Dang, I just got killed!”


Hahahaha yeah I'm sure that's what they say.
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