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NoGasfOu
United States1117 Posts
On September 30 2013 08:57 MrMedic wrote: I thought the Yankees win a lot? The foreign Yankees on the team can't win a thing except Stephano (actually, don't remember Stephano winning anything while on EG). The Korean Yankees of the team got owned in Proleague. | ||
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WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
Even got an "EG killing ESports" for good measure, that's sweet. | ||
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unigolyn
Estonia1272 Posts
On September 30 2013 04:13 crazyweasel wrote: LOL EG might be one of the causes of sc2 slowly dying. So you're saying they're killing eSports™? - when they started tearing korean teams appart by hooking contracted players. They've recruited like five players. - when they they hook foreign players out of their team with big contract (which players coudn't say no to, cause money) breaking instantly team rivalries and eu/na rivalries that kept the game exiting. They've recruited three European players, and HuK. - when they monopolize the few existing sponsors. How are they monopolizing sponsors? Razer isn't EG exclusive, they've only "monopolized" Kingston and Monster afaik. - when they bought Jaedong, disconnecting him from the korean fanbase simulteanously. which we know is already not really into sc2. lets cut whats left of the korean fanbase by sending sc1 legend out of korea. They didn't "buy" Jaedong, and if Korean SC2 is going to collapse over one BW legend joining a foreign team, it's not sustainable anyway. If anything, getting a top Kespa player on a foreign team brings more international viewers to Korean events. and now portaying gamers as introverted autistic people cave'd in all day Machine and DeMuslim didn't come off as introverted autistic people at all. They came off as well-spoken, physically fit young guys who play RTS for a living. The third player featured in the photo section was the team captain, mentioned as being married to a former Miss Oregon. Truly autistic shut-ins, amirite? | ||
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unigolyn
Estonia1272 Posts
Start a team house and practice 12 hours a day? Portraying gamers as autistic introverts who don't go outside. | ||
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aintz
Canada5624 Posts
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Assirra
Belgium4169 Posts
On September 30 2013 09:10 unigolyn wrote: It's like foreign teams can't win. Don't have proper team houses and 12 hour practice days? No passion, elephants in the room, learn from Koreans. Start a team house and practice 12 hours a day? Portraying gamers as autistic introverts who don't go outside. How is this any different then Korea? We constantly hear progamers talking about how originally their parents were against it and stuff. | ||
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UberDrive
United States144 Posts
Collegiate Star League: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/12/sports/othersports/12star.html Korea and Boxer: http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/08/arts/08schi.html Different, but an amazing story on WoW gold farmers: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/17/magazine/17lootfarmers-t.html?pagewanted=all And here's an A1 WSJ story on Barcrafts: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424053111904070604576516462736084234.html | ||
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hangene92
Canada258 Posts
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mind1337
France107 Posts
And about half the world would disagree on anything that you checked on that starts with "physical". Physical activities: as in any body movement that works your muscles and requires more energy than resting. (check) So everything except resting is a sport? To me, video games at high level are not demanding physically speaking. Take any "real" sport that everyone knows about, every professional is very healthy and fit, even for sports like golf or even probably curling, but I might be wrong about this one eh. Now take, Starcraft 2 and video games in general, anyone can be a professional gamer, but these games don't require much physical training. Video games require a lot of practice and are very demanding mentally speaking, just like Chess or Magic the Gathering or any card game I can think of, does that make it a sport, I don't think so. People need to make the difference between "any activity based on skill" and sport. And anticipating all the "you gotta be quick with your hands" replies, to me, just having to be fast with your hands doesn't make it a sport. | ||
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Avs
Korea (North)857 Posts
On September 29 2013 11:40 FabledIntegral wrote: I definitely did not see the article portraying hte gamers themselves in a positive light, but rather as super introverted individuals who lack social skills. Then again, it was Anna who admitted it... Well, its probably the truth in someways anyways even though we don't want it to be. | ||
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UmberBane
Germany5450 Posts
On September 30 2013 12:47 mind1337 wrote: So everything except resting is a sport? To me, video games at high level are not demanding physically speaking. Take any "real" sport that everyone knows about, every professional is very healthy and fit, even for sports like golf or even probably curling, but I might be wrong about this one eh. Now take, Starcraft 2 and video games in general, anyone can be a professional gamer, but these games don't require much physical training. Video games require a lot of practice and are very demanding mentally speaking, just like Chess or Magic the Gathering or any card game I can think of, does that make it a sport, I don't think so. People need to make the difference between "any activity based on skill" and sport. And anticipating all the "you gotta be quick with your hands" replies, to me, just having to be fast with your hands doesn't make it a sport. I do not think we should be calling competitive gaming a sport, but we should be calling it e-sport - why do you think there is a new word for it? There is a big difference. Cuesport/Billardsport or Dartsport also isn't physically demanding. You just need dexterity/precision with your hands and strategy. I honestly don't understand what the fuzz is all about, just because a word contains the word "sport"... It's not set in stone or anything. In Germany most people even call Chess a sport, in other countries they don't. In Korea e-sports is sports, in other countries it isn't. | ||
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CrazyF1r3f0x
United States2120 Posts
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fireforce7
United States334 Posts
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playnice
Malaysia299 Posts
On September 30 2013 14:21 UmberBane wrote: I do not think we should be calling competitive gaming a sport, but we should be calling it e-sport - why do you think there is a new word for it? There is a big difference. Cuesport/Billardsport or Dartsport also isn't physically demanding. You just need dexterity/precision with your hands and strategy. I honestly don't understand what the fuzz is all about, just because a word contains the word "sport"... It's not set in stone or anything. In Germany most people even call Chess a sport, in other countries they don't. In Korea e-sports is sports, in other countries it isn't. I don't know why people obsessed on the usage of a single word so much either. Are they really afraid that it's going to confuse the reader? Or fear that it would devalue all other physical sports because of its association with games? To me it's just a name for an electronic game in a competitive setting. | ||
Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51489 Posts
Loranger kept some Lady Speed Stick deodorant at his desk, handily in reach. ROFL “You can definitely play too much,” he said, surrounded by a bagel with cream cheese, a pair of old chopsticks and a rubber-gripped hand exerciser. “People tilt,” he added, “just like machines.” LOL man whenever i think about HuK now i just have flashbacks to his commercial for Kingston haha | ||
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Sumahi
Guam5609 Posts
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birdaholic
United States67 Posts
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bo1b
Australia12814 Posts
On September 30 2013 14:21 UmberBane wrote: I do not think we should be calling competitive gaming a sport, but we should be calling it e-sport - why do you think there is a new word for it? There is a big difference. Cuesport/Billardsport or Dartsport also isn't physically demanding. You just need dexterity/precision with your hands and strategy. I honestly don't understand what the fuzz is all about, just because a word contains the word "sport"... It's not set in stone or anything. In Germany most people even call Chess a sport, in other countries they don't. In Korea e-sports is sports, in other countries it isn't. Why can't we just call it what it is, an online video game competition? We're probably the last generation alive that even have problems with video games as a legitimate hobby, frankly this obsession to appeal to an older generation who will never be interested in the games we play is ridiculous. | ||
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Boonbag
France3318 Posts
On September 30 2013 21:31 bo1b wrote: Why can't we just call it what it is, an online video game competition? We're probably the last generation alive that even have problems with video games as a legitimate hobby, frankly this obsession to appeal to an older generation who will never be interested in the games we play is ridiculous. In my opinion video games are a waste of time unless you design them and make profit | ||
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UmberBane
Germany5450 Posts
On September 30 2013 21:31 bo1b wrote: Why can't we just call it what it is, an online video game competition? We're probably the last generation alive that even have problems with video games as a legitimate hobby, frankly this obsession to appeal to an older generation who will never be interested in the games we play is ridiculous. What makes you believe the term eSports solely got invented to "appeal to an older generation"? I see nothing wrong with using that term, it also sounds much better than "online video game competition" in my opinion.  That bird has flown a long time ago, anyway. In many countries the term e-sports is being recognized as legitimate, most notably for us on here is obviously the Korean eSports Association. One of the goals of KeSPA, as a government organization, is to make eSports an official sporting event. And I see nothing wrong with that. | ||
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