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Backlash123
Profile Joined July 2012
Canada57 Posts
September 29 2013 20:54 GMT
#121
On September 30 2013 05:44 Jibba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2013 04:15 JIJI_ wrote:
Also the way the David Kim and Blizz balance this game is if the NBA were to nerf dunks or make dunks only worth 1 point when Shaq was dominating or when Wilt Chamberlin was dominating. It's very ridiculous. Anytime a player does a good build and is dominating the nerfs will be inc soon after - that is why there is no-one in sc2 scene that is actually consistent and at the very top dominating for more than a few months at a time.

This is cute. Both Shaq and Wilt forced the NBA to change rules regarding lanes and goaltending because of their dominance.

http://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/1aexwv/players_that_caused_nba_rule_changes/

Also, the NCAA did ban dunks for a time because of Kareem Abdul Jabbar.

I think a better example might be something that changes the game as a whole. IE. The NBA swoops in and says "let's make basketballs a little bit bigger for a while and if we notice any significant issues we all revert the change." They simply couldn't get away with something like that however game devs have the power to do game breaking things all the time.
MisterFred
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2033 Posts
September 29 2013 21:02 GMT
#122
Machine fighting!
"The victor? Not the highest scoring, nor the best strategist, nor the best tactitian. The victor was he that was closest to the Tao of FFA." -.Praetor
MisterFred
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2033 Posts
September 29 2013 21:05 GMT
#123
On September 30 2013 05:54 Backlash123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2013 05:44 Jibba wrote:
On September 30 2013 04:15 JIJI_ wrote:
Also the way the David Kim and Blizz balance this game is if the NBA were to nerf dunks or make dunks only worth 1 point when Shaq was dominating or when Wilt Chamberlin was dominating. It's very ridiculous. Anytime a player does a good build and is dominating the nerfs will be inc soon after - that is why there is no-one in sc2 scene that is actually consistent and at the very top dominating for more than a few months at a time.

This is cute. Both Shaq and Wilt forced the NBA to change rules regarding lanes and goaltending because of their dominance.

http://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/1aexwv/players_that_caused_nba_rule_changes/

Also, the NCAA did ban dunks for a time because of Kareem Abdul Jabbar.

I think a better example might be something that changes the game as a whole. IE. The NBA swoops in and says "let's make basketballs a little bit bigger for a while and if we notice any significant issues we all revert the change." They simply couldn't get away with something like that however game devs have the power to do game breaking things all the time.


Uh... perhaps you are unaware of the ABA. Where they made basketballs a little bit smaller for awhile and changed the color. Basketball as a whole watched to see if there were any significant issues and then reverted the change. Or the change in the distance of the three-point-line. Or the rapidly-changing refereeing standards. Or the implementation of instant replay call reviews (major mistake). Or... etc., etc.
"The victor? Not the highest scoring, nor the best strategist, nor the best tactitian. The victor was he that was closest to the Tao of FFA." -.Praetor
aXa
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
France748 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-29 21:29:31
September 29 2013 21:29 GMT
#124
For those who doesn't think Esport is a sport, that's because you don't know the correct definition of sport.

Wiki:

*Sport (or sports) is all forms of usually competitive physical activity (check) which,[1] through casual or organised participation, (check) aim to use, maintain or improve physical ability (check) and skills (check) while providing entertainment to participants (check), and in some cases, spectators. (check)[2] Hundreds of sports exist, (check) from those requiring only two participants, (check) through to those with hundreds of simultaneous participants, either in teams (check) or competing as individuals. (check)
Sport is generally recognised as activities which are based in physical athleticism (check) or physical dexterity, (check)
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
September 29 2013 21:33 GMT
#125
On September 30 2013 06:29 aXa wrote:
For those who doesn't think Esport is a sport, that's because you don't know the correct definition of sport.

Wiki:

Show nested quote +
*Sport (or sports) is all forms of usually competitive physical activity (check) which,[1] through casual or organised participation, (check) aim to use, maintain or improve physical ability (check) and skills (check) while providing entertainment to participants (check), and in some cases, spectators. (check)[2] Hundreds of sports exist, (check) from those requiring only two participants, (check) through to those with hundreds of simultaneous participants, either in teams (check) or competing as individuals. (check)
Sport is generally recognised as activities which are based in physical athleticism (check) or physical dexterity, (check)

And about half the world would disagree on anything that you checked on that starts with "physical".
aXa
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
France748 Posts
September 29 2013 21:40 GMT
#126
On September 30 2013 06:33 Assirra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2013 06:29 aXa wrote:
For those who doesn't think Esport is a sport, that's because you don't know the correct definition of sport.

Wiki:

*Sport (or sports) is all forms of usually competitive physical activity (check) which,[1] through casual or organised participation, (check) aim to use, maintain or improve physical ability (check) and skills (check) while providing entertainment to participants (check), and in some cases, spectators. (check)[2] Hundreds of sports exist, (check) from those requiring only two participants, (check) through to those with hundreds of simultaneous participants, either in teams (check) or competing as individuals. (check)
Sport is generally recognised as activities which are based in physical athleticism (check) or physical dexterity, (check)

And about half the world would disagree on anything that you checked on that starts with "physical".


Physical activities: as in any body movement that works your muscles and requires more energy than resting. (check)
Emuking
Profile Joined June 2012
United States144 Posts
September 29 2013 21:41 GMT
#127
On September 30 2013 06:29 aXa wrote:
For those who doesn't think Esport is a sport, that's because you don't know the correct definition of sport.

Wiki:

Show nested quote +
*Sport (or sports) is all forms of usually competitive physical activity (check) which,[1] through casual or organised participation, (check) aim to use, maintain or improve physical ability (check) and skills (check) while providing entertainment to participants (check), and in some cases, spectators. (check)[2] Hundreds of sports exist, (check) from those requiring only two participants, (check) through to those with hundreds of simultaneous participants, either in teams (check) or competing as individuals. (check)
Sport is generally recognised as activities which are based in physical athleticism (check) or physical dexterity, (check)


By this definition, Iron Chef is a sport... never quote Wikipedia man. Internet 101
When you want to succeed as bad as you want to breath, then you'll be successful.
aXa
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
France748 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-29 21:44:52
September 29 2013 21:44 GMT
#128
On September 30 2013 06:41 Emuking wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2013 06:29 aXa wrote:
For those who doesn't think Esport is a sport, that's because you don't know the correct definition of sport.

Wiki:

*Sport (or sports) is all forms of usually competitive physical activity (check) which,[1] through casual or organised participation, (check) aim to use, maintain or improve physical ability (check) and skills (check) while providing entertainment to participants (check), and in some cases, spectators. (check)[2] Hundreds of sports exist, (check) from those requiring only two participants, (check) through to those with hundreds of simultaneous participants, either in teams (check) or competing as individuals. (check)
Sport is generally recognised as activities which are based in physical athleticism (check) or physical dexterity, (check)


By this definition, Iron Chef is a sport... never quote Wikipedia man. Internet 101


Quoted wikipedia, but dictionaries say pretty much the same. Are you gonna deny all of them too ?
Ctone23
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States1839 Posts
September 29 2013 21:49 GMT
#129
On September 30 2013 06:41 Emuking wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2013 06:29 aXa wrote:
For those who doesn't think Esport is a sport, that's because you don't know the correct definition of sport.

Wiki:

*Sport (or sports) is all forms of usually competitive physical activity (check) which,[1] through casual or organised participation, (check) aim to use, maintain or improve physical ability (check) and skills (check) while providing entertainment to participants (check), and in some cases, spectators. (check)[2] Hundreds of sports exist, (check) from those requiring only two participants, (check) through to those with hundreds of simultaneous participants, either in teams (check) or competing as individuals. (check)
Sport is generally recognised as activities which are based in physical athleticism (check) or physical dexterity, (check)


By this definition, Iron Chef is a sport... never quote Wikipedia man. Internet 101



As far as I'm concerned never quote liquipedia either.
TL+ Member
Thienan567
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States670 Posts
September 29 2013 21:55 GMT
#130
On September 30 2013 06:49 Ctone23 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2013 06:41 Emuking wrote:
On September 30 2013 06:29 aXa wrote:
For those who doesn't think Esport is a sport, that's because you don't know the correct definition of sport.

Wiki:

*Sport (or sports) is all forms of usually competitive physical activity (check) which,[1] through casual or organised participation, (check) aim to use, maintain or improve physical ability (check) and skills (check) while providing entertainment to participants (check), and in some cases, spectators. (check)[2] Hundreds of sports exist, (check) from those requiring only two participants, (check) through to those with hundreds of simultaneous participants, either in teams (check) or competing as individuals. (check)
Sport is generally recognised as activities which are based in physical athleticism (check) or physical dexterity, (check)


By this definition, Iron Chef is a sport... never quote Wikipedia man. Internet 101



As far as I'm concerned never quote liquipedia either.


yeah but thats only cuz most of liquipedia is way outdated. Pretty much the only section that's regularly updated is the tourney section.

and hmm if eg is the yankees then maybe liquid is the phillies? Plenty of champions and still very relevant unlike the yankees
Pittski
Profile Joined May 2010
United States50 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-29 22:09:49
September 29 2013 22:08 GMT
#131
One bloop I read. Cat5e Cables? I would assume they are using Cat 6 cables at this point. In the house. I am not sure if the houses use Fiber, or Business Cable. Either way, Cat 6 is cheap and better for connectivity. XD
The One and Only
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18822 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-29 22:09:17
September 29 2013 22:08 GMT
#132
On September 30 2013 06:55 Thienan567 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2013 06:49 Ctone23 wrote:
On September 30 2013 06:41 Emuking wrote:
On September 30 2013 06:29 aXa wrote:
For those who doesn't think Esport is a sport, that's because you don't know the correct definition of sport.

Wiki:

*Sport (or sports) is all forms of usually competitive physical activity (check) which,[1] through casual or organised participation, (check) aim to use, maintain or improve physical ability (check) and skills (check) while providing entertainment to participants (check), and in some cases, spectators. (check)[2] Hundreds of sports exist, (check) from those requiring only two participants, (check) through to those with hundreds of simultaneous participants, either in teams (check) or competing as individuals. (check)
Sport is generally recognised as activities which are based in physical athleticism (check) or physical dexterity, (check)


By this definition, Iron Chef is a sport... never quote Wikipedia man. Internet 101



As far as I'm concerned never quote liquipedia either.


yeah but thats only cuz most of liquipedia is way outdated. Pretty much the only section that's regularly updated is the tourney section.

and hmm if eg is the yankees then maybe liquid is the phillies? Plenty of champions and still very relevant unlike the yankees

Do you really think that teamliquid fans are the worst in esports?
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Thienan567
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States670 Posts
September 29 2013 22:43 GMT
#133
On September 30 2013 07:08 farvacola wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2013 06:55 Thienan567 wrote:
On September 30 2013 06:49 Ctone23 wrote:
On September 30 2013 06:41 Emuking wrote:
On September 30 2013 06:29 aXa wrote:
For those who doesn't think Esport is a sport, that's because you don't know the correct definition of sport.

Wiki:

*Sport (or sports) is all forms of usually competitive physical activity (check) which,[1] through casual or organised participation, (check) aim to use, maintain or improve physical ability (check) and skills (check) while providing entertainment to participants (check), and in some cases, spectators. (check)[2] Hundreds of sports exist, (check) from those requiring only two participants, (check) through to those with hundreds of simultaneous participants, either in teams (check) or competing as individuals. (check)
Sport is generally recognised as activities which are based in physical athleticism (check) or physical dexterity, (check)


By this definition, Iron Chef is a sport... never quote Wikipedia man. Internet 101



As far as I'm concerned never quote liquipedia either.


yeah but thats only cuz most of liquipedia is way outdated. Pretty much the only section that's regularly updated is the tourney section.

and hmm if eg is the yankees then maybe liquid is the phillies? Plenty of champions and still very relevant unlike the yankees

Do you really think that teamliquid fans are the worst in esports?


Yes actually.
tshi
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2495 Posts
September 29 2013 22:44 GMT
#134
On September 30 2013 04:13 crazyweasel wrote:
LOL EG might be one of the causes of sc2 slowly dying.

- when they started tearing korean teams appart by hooking contracted players.
- when they they hook foreign players out of their team with big contract (which players coudn't say no to, cause money) breaking instantly team rivalries and eu/na rivalries that kept the game exiting.
- when they monopolize the few existing sponsors.
- when they bought Jaedong, disconnecting him from the korean fanbase simulteanously. which we know is already not really into sc2. lets cut whats left of the korean fanbase by sending sc1 legend out of korea.

and now portaying gamers as introverted autistic people cave'd in all day

Yes.
scrub - inexperienced player with relatively little skill and excessive arrogance
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
September 29 2013 22:50 GMT
#135
On September 30 2013 07:44 tshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2013 04:13 crazyweasel wrote:
LOL EG might be one of the causes of sc2 slowly dying.

- when they started tearing korean teams appart by hooking contracted players.
- when they they hook foreign players out of their team with big contract (which players coudn't say no to, cause money) breaking instantly team rivalries and eu/na rivalries that kept the game exiting.
- when they monopolize the few existing sponsors.
- when they bought Jaedong, disconnecting him from the korean fanbase simulteanously. which we know is already not really into sc2. lets cut whats left of the korean fanbase by sending sc1 legend out of korea.

and now portaying gamers as introverted autistic people cave'd in all day

Yes.

No, not really. A lot of that stuff he just made up. Also, I am not sure how you "monopolize the few existing sponsors", unless we assume they are stealing them form other teams. And that seems pretty dumb.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
TRaFFiC
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada1448 Posts
September 29 2013 23:01 GMT
#136
I like the tone of the article. Well done.
2v2, 1v1, Zerg, Terran http://www.twitch.tv/trafficsc2
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
September 29 2013 23:13 GMT
#137
On September 30 2013 05:54 Backlash123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2013 05:44 Jibba wrote:
On September 30 2013 04:15 JIJI_ wrote:
Also the way the David Kim and Blizz balance this game is if the NBA were to nerf dunks or make dunks only worth 1 point when Shaq was dominating or when Wilt Chamberlin was dominating. It's very ridiculous. Anytime a player does a good build and is dominating the nerfs will be inc soon after - that is why there is no-one in sc2 scene that is actually consistent and at the very top dominating for more than a few months at a time.

This is cute. Both Shaq and Wilt forced the NBA to change rules regarding lanes and goaltending because of their dominance.

http://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/1aexwv/players_that_caused_nba_rule_changes/

Also, the NCAA did ban dunks for a time because of Kareem Abdul Jabbar.

I think a better example might be something that changes the game as a whole. IE. The NBA swoops in and says "let's make basketballs a little bit bigger for a while and if we notice any significant issues we all revert the change." They simply couldn't get away with something like that however game devs have the power to do game breaking things all the time.

Of course they can. They change rules all the time to make the game better or avoid specific things that they don't like seeing. Or they freak out like the NHL and just shut down the whole league because they don't like the way everyone is getting paid. Then no one plays at all.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
NoGasfOu
Profile Joined April 2012
United States1117 Posts
September 29 2013 23:43 GMT
#138
2 of the worst players on the team featured in the video. Products of that house.
Tassadar/TheBest/Jjakji/Rain(terran)/Heart
unigolyn
Profile Joined August 2013
Estonia1272 Posts
September 29 2013 23:57 GMT
#139
On September 29 2013 16:47 IcedBacon wrote:
Judging from the excerpt in the OP, sounds like a fucking awful article. Yeah all progamers are complete shut-ins that despise the sunlight and stay glued to their computers 24/7 living off shitty food and energy drinks. Okay.


Yes, let's judge things by excerpts and then post angry comments about articles we didn't read.

This is surely how constructive discussion works.
Show me what passes for fury amongst your misbegotten kind.
MrMedic
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada452 Posts
September 29 2013 23:57 GMT
#140
I thought the Yankees win a lot?
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