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EG's Lair in the New York Times - Page 2

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WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
September 29 2013 02:54 GMT
#21
On September 29 2013 11:51 OuchyDathurts wrote:
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On September 29 2013 11:36 WolfintheSheep wrote:
On September 29 2013 11:30 UnKooL wrote:
Demuslim switched to dota?

You're the second person to say this, and I see nothing in the article that remotely implied he was doing such a thing.

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Baker practicing Dota 2.


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Bryce Bates, left, who is known as Machine, and Baker. Bates is a StarCraft gamer.


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Baker’s desk is equipped for a day of practice playing Dota 2 at the Evil Geniuses’ team house.


Some of the captions imply he plays DotA. Which he does do sometimes, but that's obviously not what he's known for.

Oh, in the Slideshow. I didn't go into any of the photo gallery.

To be fair, he does play DotA 2 from time to time. Wouldn't be shocking if it was just bad timing on the reporter's part.
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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
September 29 2013 02:58 GMT
#22
Didn't read the full article yet but from the tidbits I got, I'm not getting a good impression lol. Seems like it's more of a humorous article than anything else but who knows. Maybe I read the wrong parts so far XD
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Maxd11
Profile Joined July 2011
United States680 Posts
September 29 2013 03:02 GMT
#23
Sitting in a private room, surrounded by displays of bottled sake, they looked a bit uneasy, and at first, their conversation was a halting mix of silences and shoptalk. Then the others noticed that Baker was sending a text message to someone on his smartphone. Garfield, in charge as always, asked, To whom?

It was a young woman, and Baker needed help. Roused by this romantic challenge, his teammates came to his assistance. Joining forces, as a multiperson Cyrano de Bergerac, they offered suggestions for Baker’s texts. In the end, their communal gambit worked. The woman was intrigued and texted back.

To Bates, the effort was in keeping with the Lair’s collective spirit.

“It’s what we do,” he said. “We help each other and hold each other accountable. It’s just pretty cool when you can live with your best friends.”

Seriously...
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Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
September 29 2013 03:18 GMT
#24
EG with some brilliant product placement for the photos. I loved the stack of Monster Energy drinks for a monitor stand.
Snorkle
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1648 Posts
September 29 2013 03:21 GMT
#25
On September 29 2013 12:02 Maxd11 wrote:
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Sitting in a private room, surrounded by displays of bottled sake, they looked a bit uneasy, and at first, their conversation was a halting mix of silences and shoptalk. Then the others noticed that Baker was sending a text message to someone on his smartphone. Garfield, in charge as always, asked, To whom?

It was a young woman, and Baker needed help. Roused by this romantic challenge, his teammates came to his assistance. Joining forces, as a multiperson Cyrano de Bergerac, they offered suggestions for Baker’s texts. In the end, their communal gambit worked. The woman was intrigued and texted back.

To Bates, the effort was in keeping with the Lair’s collective spirit.

“It’s what we do,” he said. “We help each other and hold each other accountable. It’s just pretty cool when you can live with your best friends.”

Seriously...

The whole article was pretty good until this paragraph. Maybe they looked uneasy because they had a ny times reporter sitting with them, I know I wouldn't be able to act normal and natural if I had someone sitting there watching me and taking notes on my behavior.
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
September 29 2013 03:23 GMT
#26
On September 29 2013 12:02 Maxd11 wrote:
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Sitting in a private room, surrounded by displays of bottled sake, they looked a bit uneasy, and at first, their conversation was a halting mix of silences and shoptalk. Then the others noticed that Baker was sending a text message to someone on his smartphone. Garfield, in charge as always, asked, To whom?

It was a young woman, and Baker needed help. Roused by this romantic challenge, his teammates came to his assistance. Joining forces, as a multiperson Cyrano de Bergerac, they offered suggestions for Baker’s texts. In the end, their communal gambit worked. The woman was intrigued and texted back.

To Bates, the effort was in keeping with the Lair’s collective spirit.

“It’s what we do,” he said. “We help each other and hold each other accountable. It’s just pretty cool when you can live with your best friends.”

Seriously...


I see the problem here. Demuslin was texting the lady instead of talking with her. Ladies always fall for his accent.
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magnaflow
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1521 Posts
September 29 2013 03:49 GMT
#27
I wonder if EG is happy about this article, it doesn't portray the best picture

WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
September 29 2013 04:04 GMT
#28
On September 29 2013 12:49 magnaflow wrote:
I wonder if EG is happy about this article, it doesn't portray the best picture


EG had a full documentary crew in the house for months. I don't think their living habits are a big secret.

Besides, what's really the issue? "Shocking news, College aged adults act the same even if not in College."
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Kare
Profile Joined March 2009
Norway786 Posts
September 29 2013 04:06 GMT
#29
Im so sick and tired of videos that is suppose to educate the rest of the world what E-SPORTS is, it makes for videos that dont show the reality in it. How many times havnt we seen videos like this, where you hear all the standard shit. Playing 12 hours a day, is it a real sport?, fastest growing blablabla.

What im really trying to say is that we dont need to get accepted by the rest of the world, if they dont like and look at it as nolife, nerdy or whatever, then fine.. who gives a shit :D let them go back to their easy and boring sports that we see get alot of headlines today.
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feanor1
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1899 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-29 05:10:42
September 29 2013 04:21 GMT
#30
Thanks for posting this. Very good read, it kept a pretty positive outlook, while still noting the issue that pro players deal with/ pro players cause.
Jaaaaasper
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States10225 Posts
September 29 2013 04:29 GMT
#31
Sound like the Yankees. Old, not that good anymore, and over payed with no results to show for it. "Micheal jordans of the games we play" lol. Maybe Micheal Jordan playing baseball.
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N.geNuity
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States5112 Posts
September 29 2013 04:36 GMT
#32
What a shitty article in all honesty
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Bigtony
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1606 Posts
September 29 2013 04:39 GMT
#33
On September 29 2013 13:36 N.geNuity wrote:
What a shitty article in all honesty



It has some positive notes but also focuses repeatedly on 'stereotypical nerd markers.' Commenting on how late they sleep? Their hygiene? Ugggghh at least it is not overtly aggressive.
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Kaitlin
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2958 Posts
September 29 2013 04:42 GMT
#34
One major difference between eSports and traditional "real" sports is that eSports are dependent upon the intellectual property of the game developer. Football, soccer, baseball, etc, all you need is a ball and some land and you can play. In eSports, the entire scene is subordinated to one entity, e.g. Blizzard, who can make balance changes, map changes, any changes they damn well please, and the entire scene changes. One can train, and develop the skills necessary to become a professional basketball player, or football player, or soccer player, and no one entity can prevent that career choice. Not the case in eSports. Every single game upon which an eSports scene is based, is owned by some entity with the complete right to change the rules of the game overnight. Also, game developers interest is generation of profit which is not necessarily aligned with what is best for the separate "eSports" scene.
d_runk
Profile Joined March 2013
124 Posts
September 29 2013 04:58 GMT
#35
Haven't finished the article yet, but the video and the slideshow are fair enough. My only concern is Alex's answer to the "real sport" question. It comes of as really arrogant and unwelcoming to someone who maybe hearing about professional gaming for the first time (yeah it's a long shot if you are watching a video online, but you never know). That's not how a CEO answers to a major news outlet asking him about the main profile of the company he runs, it's a junior high schooler getting upset at grownups for not getting why playing video games is the best thing ever.
Maybe the editing is at fault here and the question was much more provocative/ignorant than just is esport/ competitive gaming a real sport? But still, DeMu's answer was much more collected and sensible (that's why I think they might not have been asked exactly the same question). That whole cool kids club metaphor was just messed up. I'm sure there is a reason, but they should've let Geoff do the talking (at least instead of Machine). He would've convinced any worried parent watching the video that esports is the ultimate carrier anyone with a broadband internet connection could ever want.
I know that Alex is extremely capable of doing his job and EG are a good outfit to have in this scene, but he still should have kept his professional demeanor.

I wonder how Nazgul would have answered.
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xxpack09
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2160 Posts
September 29 2013 05:10 GMT
#36
loling majorly @ "Prosser Robinson"
Patate
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada441 Posts
September 29 2013 05:14 GMT
#37
Machine revving that 30 APM : D

Michael Jordan would be proud..
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jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
September 29 2013 05:14 GMT
#38
On September 29 2013 14:10 xxpack09 wrote:
loling majorly @ "Prosser Robinson"

why?
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HeeroFX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2704 Posts
September 29 2013 05:23 GMT
#39
I am actually impressed by the story, they really took the time to learn about the esports world.
ymir233
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States8275 Posts
September 29 2013 05:29 GMT
#40
On September 29 2013 11:51 fuzzylogic44 wrote:
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Within the Lair, a tautly focused silence tends to reign. It is broken only by the patter-clack of keyboards or by occasional exclamations: “Nice shot, dude!” or “Dang, I just got killed!”


Hahahaha yeah I'm sure that's what they say.


No that's what I say all the time

I get 4-immortal 2-1 pressure/allin at 12:30 PvZ and die to it b/c I didn't go JD's tight quick viper build and I'm all like "Nice shot dude!"
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