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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
August 15 2013 18:04 GMT
#21
I'm sad that Hurricane didn't make it through, who incidentally, is one of the only old ESF players whose name change I approve of. It takes an effort for me to call Losira Kangho.
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slowbacontron
Profile Joined October 2012
United States7722 Posts
August 15 2013 20:17 GMT
#22
On August 16 2013 03:04 Darkhoarse wrote:
I'm sad that Hurricane didn't make it through, who incidentally, is one of the only old ESF players whose name change I approve of. It takes an effort for me to call Losira Kangho.

I think FXOTear is cooler than FXOHurricane, but oh well, at least the new name is still good
jjakji fan
ThePrince
Profile Joined October 2010
Peru331 Posts
August 15 2013 20:36 GMT
#23
It takes an Effort to call Losire Kangho. Does that mean it takes a Kangho to call Hurricane a Losire?

SK_MC, ST_Parting, STX_Bogus fighting!!! Colossi should shoot nukes and blink.
neptunusfisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
2286 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-15 22:04:40
August 15 2013 22:03 GMT
#24
On August 16 2013 02:18 Penev wrote:
For the Korean esports organization enthusiasts:


jjakji is not on an esf team
maru G5L pls
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28536 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-15 22:24:32
August 15 2013 22:21 GMT
#25
On August 16 2013 07:03 neptunusfisk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2013 02:18 Penev wrote:
For the Korean esports organization enthusiasts:


jjakji is not on an esf team

Yes, and you're not a true Korean esports organization enthusiast.
+ Show Spoiler +
Notice how PartinG is specifically mentioned
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
August 15 2013 22:33 GMT
#26
Yeah Jjakji!
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Grayson Carlyle
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada219 Posts
August 15 2013 23:06 GMT
#27
1/3 of ESF players represented by MVP.
Take what ye can
Havik_
Profile Joined November 2011
United States5585 Posts
August 15 2013 23:11 GMT
#28
Code S gets more and more stacked each season it feels like.
"An opinion is only as good as the evidence that backs it up."- William O'Malley, S.J.
Wuster
Profile Joined May 2011
1974 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-15 23:51:06
August 15 2013 23:50 GMT
#29
On August 16 2013 07:21 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2013 07:03 neptunusfisk wrote:
On August 16 2013 02:18 Penev wrote:
For the Korean esports organization enthusiasts:


jjakji is not on an esf team

Yes, and you're not a true Korean esports organization enthusiast.
+ Show Spoiler +
Notice how PartinG is specifically mentioned


So you got PartinG right but Jjakji wrong... I don't think I see you point. He still correctly pointed out your mistake.

Edit: Speaking of which, I'm glad Jjakji's back, he looked pretty good yesterday too. Maybe having some team stability will do wonders for his play.
painkilla
Profile Joined June 2013
United States695 Posts
August 15 2013 23:55 GMT
#30
On August 16 2013 07:03 neptunusfisk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2013 02:18 Penev wrote:
For the Korean esports organization enthusiasts:


jjakji is not on an esf team

esf = non-kespa, the correct definition.
Supernova | TY | Polt | Innovation | forGG | Lucifron | Happy
DavoS
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States4605 Posts
August 16 2013 01:02 GMT
#31
Wow jjakji I'm glad to see you back!
Can we get a statement from Seed about being the most irrelevant Code S champion?
"KDA is actually the most useless stat in the game" Aui_2000
nickbradvica
Profile Joined June 2010
United States20 Posts
August 16 2013 01:36 GMT
#32
stacked lineup
"I tech straight to ultras"
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9175 Posts
August 16 2013 05:53 GMT
#33
On August 16 2013 05:36 ThePrince wrote:
It takes an Effort to call Losire Kangho. Does that mean it takes a Kangho to call Hurricane a Losire?

please stop
Yhamm is the god of predictions
SeraNyan
Profile Joined August 2013
United States16 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-16 16:38:35
August 16 2013 16:38 GMT
#34
On August 16 2013 00:29 skylarr wrote:
I heard effort got fucked by a bug


Ya, he ran a bunch of roaches into fallen rocks seconds after they fell when KangHo destroyed them. The roaches just died, nyan.
Nyan~
Darkthorn
Profile Joined September 2010
Romania912 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-16 16:41:08
August 16 2013 16:40 GMT
#35
On August 17 2013 01:38 SeraNyan wrote:
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On August 16 2013 00:29 skylarr wrote:
I heard effort got fucked by a bug


Ya, he ran a bunch of roaches into fallen rocks seconds after they fell when KangHo destroyed them. The roaches just died, nyan.

it's not a bug when you kill the collapsable rocks if there is not place for the game to move the units from under the place where they fall...the said units will just die...for exemple you get rocks low...then you ff zerg units in there then kill the collapsable rocks...they all die...instant win xD
Sogetsu
Profile Joined July 2011
514 Posts
August 16 2013 18:29 GMT
#36
Sort of balanced on race numbers... I am surprised, so glad to see it. And it is kinda sad to see so many newish players that never made it so far reaching Code S without hope of winning the whole thing while other old good ones (like Foxer) are stucked so badly and some of them falling like Leenock :'(
Raptor: "Es hora de salvar a los E-Sports..." http://i3.minus.com/ibtne3liprtByB.png
Charlie.Sheen
Profile Joined March 2013
662 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-16 19:09:49
August 16 2013 18:55 GMT
#37
On August 16 2013 08:55 painkilla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2013 07:03 neptunusfisk wrote:
On August 16 2013 02:18 Penev wrote:
For the Korean esports organization enthusiasts:


jjakji is not on an esf team

esf = non-kespa, the correct definition.


By your logic, Naniwa, Stephano, Huk, are all eSF players.

That's called anti-kespa mentality, just call all of them as non-kespa players, and call your self as anti-kespa fan from now on. This has absolutely nothing to do with eSF.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28536 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-16 19:25:19
August 16 2013 19:09 GMT
#38
On August 16 2013 08:50 Wuster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2013 07:21 Penev wrote:
On August 16 2013 07:03 neptunusfisk wrote:
On August 16 2013 02:18 Penev wrote:
For the Korean esports organization enthusiasts:


jjakji is not on an esf team

Yes, and you're not a true Korean esports organization enthusiast.
+ Show Spoiler +
Notice how PartinG is specifically mentioned


So you got PartinG right but Jjakji wrong... I don't think I see you point. He still correctly pointed out your mistake.

Edit: Speaking of which, I'm glad Jjakji's back, he looked pretty good yesterday too. Maybe having some team stability will do wonders for his play.

It wasn't a mistake. You have to know the history of the KesPA vs ESF thing aka the "the elephant in the room" thing. It's not important that it isn't completely accurate; It's actually more of a joke now, really. Replace ESF with "pioneers" if you want it to be more accurate. The pioneers being the players who left KesPA in the beginning of SC2. Many people thought (including me) that once KesPA would switch to SC2 after a certain time (my guess was after the release of HotS) their players would dominate the scene. At least until now, it's been pretty much 50/50, exactly 50/50 actually, because PartinG should be considered a pioneer. Not being a Korean esports organization enthusiast is, at least in my book, a good thing btw. I find the "YAY KESPA/ ESF" posts in the LR threads very silly. The seriously meant ones I mean.

@HolyArrow: Telepathy, no doubt. xD
I Protoss winner, could it be?
HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-16 19:15:26
August 16 2013 19:14 GMT
#39
On August 17 2013 03:55 Charlie.Sheen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2013 08:55 painkilla wrote:
On August 16 2013 07:03 neptunusfisk wrote:
On August 16 2013 02:18 Penev wrote:
For the Korean esports organization enthusiasts:


jjakji is not on an esf team

esf = non-kespa, the correct definition.


By your logic, Naniwa, Stephano, Huk, are all eSF players.

That's called anti-kespa mentality, just call all of them as non-kespa players, and call your self as anti-kespa fan. This has absolutely nothing to do with eSF.


You're technically right, but the eSF = non-Kespa sentiment makes sense in context of how eSF vs. Kespa first started: Kespa fanboys basically proclaiming how the BW players switching over would be better than everyone else. Everyone seems to be so caught up in eSF vs. Kespa that they've forgotten how this all even started, which is unfortunate because instead of people seeing the big picture, we get caught up in technicalities like "Oh Polt/Jjakji/etc. aren't eSF anymore" or debate on what players like Parting/Puzzle/CoCa/Jaedong really count as. Just kind of shows you how dumb the whole thing is, when people are arguing over a rivalry that doesn't even accurately reflect the origins of said rivalry.

@ Penev: I like how we said essentially the same thing back to back xD
Charlie.Sheen
Profile Joined March 2013
662 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-16 19:20:15
August 16 2013 19:18 GMT
#40
On August 17 2013 04:14 HolyArrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2013 03:55 Charlie.Sheen wrote:
On August 16 2013 08:55 painkilla wrote:
On August 16 2013 07:03 neptunusfisk wrote:
On August 16 2013 02:18 Penev wrote:
For the Korean esports organization enthusiasts:


jjakji is not on an esf team

esf = non-kespa, the correct definition.


By your logic, Naniwa, Stephano, Huk, are all eSF players.

That's called anti-kespa mentality, just call all of them as non-kespa players, and call your self as anti-kespa fan. This has absolutely nothing to do with eSF.


You're technically right, but the eSF = non-Kespa sentiment makes sense in context of how eSF vs. Kespa first started: Kespa fanboys basically proclaiming how the BW players switching over would be better than everyone else. Everyone seems to be so caught up in eSF vs. Kespa that they've forgotten how this all even started, which is unfortunate because instead of people seeing the big picture, we get caught up in technicalities like "Oh Polt/Jjakji/etc. aren't eSF anymore" or debate on what players like Parting/Puzzle/CoCa/Jaedong really count as. Just kind of shows you how dumb the whole thing is, when people are arguing over a rivalry that doesn't even accurately reflect the origins of said rivalry.



Exactly, from the origin, it is basically old BW players vs original SC2 players.

Also just like many TL "elites" pointed before in lots of LR thread, there are never any eSF fans exist anyway. Then why bother with the eSF term, just call non-kespa vs kespa, that will be more intense and valid. Because there are certainly a lot of KeSPA fans exist. Just drop the eSF term in this rivalry argument from now on.
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