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United States33699 Posts
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Jjakji and Kangho round out Code S roster
The Up/Down matches concluded with Group F, where the final two players booked their spots in the upcoming Code S tournament.  mYi.jjakji finished in first place with a 3 - 1 record, while  IM_KangHo advanced in second place at 2 - 2 (thanks to head-to-head tiebreaks).
The group took all ten matches to decide, even threatening to head to an unprecedented 5-way tiebreaker if all players finished 2-2. However, Jjakji managed to save everyone from the fate of having to play the entire group over, defeating Samsung_Shine on the final map. Jjakji and Losira now head to Code S, while Shine, EffOrt, and  Hurricane will spend season 3 in Code A.
Code S/WCS KR Season 3 Players
Top 8 from previous season (8/8):
Rain, First, Bomber, Maru, INnoVation, SuperNova, Soulkey, Symbol
Code A Winners (12/12):
JangBi, PartinG, sOs, YongHwa, GuMiho, Bbyong, Dream, Reality, Flash, TRUE, Sleep, hyvaa
Up/Down Winners (12/12):
SonGDuri, Super, herO[jOin], soO, Pigbaby, KeeN, DongRaeGu, Trap, Dear, Swagger, jjakji, KangHo
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Noo Effort, only CJ player to not make it.
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12 P, 11T and 9Z. Nice distribution. Hoping that Super and Pigbaby make some big plays!
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Nice to see jjakji make it back to code S, great pickup by mYi!
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Dream or Yonghwa to win code S this season.
I think it's their time.
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Nice distribution, although I feel that the Zerg line-up isn't quite as heavy hitting or as deep as the Protoss or Terran.
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Damn, Jjakji. Happy to see you back bro.
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I heard effort got fucked by a bug
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I was hoping for the five-way tiebreaker. Shine always does the opposite of what people want him to.
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was hoping those two made it out.. especially jjakji ofc!!
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Shine was cursed by Artosis... I feel bad for him.
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Canada16217 Posts
so awesome to see jjakji back in code s :D
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Noooooo Tear 
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so how did my boy Jjakji do? MMMM?
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United States97277 Posts
in Code S: jjakji
not in Code S: every 2012 GSL champ but DRG + RorO for 2013
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Russian Federation40190 Posts
On August 16 2013 02:48 Shellshock1122 wrote:
in Code S: jjakji
not in Code S: every 2012 GSL champ but DRG + RorO for 2013
Yeah, it is rather funny. And i just figured out that no runner-up from 2012 is in Code S either :D. And so is leenock ((
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United States23455 Posts
Kanghooooooooo I'm pretty psyched for this Code S season.
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I'm sad that Hurricane didn't make it through, who incidentally, is one of the only old ESF players whose name change I approve of. It takes an effort for me to call Losira Kangho.
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On August 16 2013 03:04 Darkhoarse wrote:
I'm sad that Hurricane didn't make it through, who incidentally, is one of the only old ESF players whose name change I approve of. It takes an effort for me to call Losira Kangho.
I think FXOTear is cooler than FXOHurricane, but oh well, at least the new name is still good 
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It takes an Effort to call Losire Kangho. Does that mean it takes a Kangho to call Hurricane a Losire?
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On August 16 2013 02:18 Penev wrote:
For the Korean esports organization enthusiasts:
jjakji is not on an esf team
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On August 16 2013 07:03 neptunusfisk wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2013 02:18 Penev wrote:
For the Korean esports organization enthusiasts:
jjakji is not on an esf team
Yes, and you're not a true Korean esports organization enthusiast.
+ Show Spoiler + Notice how PartinG is specifically mentioned
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1/3 of ESF players represented by MVP.
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Code S gets more and more stacked each season it feels like.
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On August 16 2013 07:21 Penev wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2013 07:03 neptunusfisk wrote:On August 16 2013 02:18 Penev wrote:
For the Korean esports organization enthusiasts:
jjakji is not on an esf team Yes, and you're not a true Korean esports organization enthusiast. + Show Spoiler + Notice how PartinG is specifically mentioned
So you got PartinG right but Jjakji wrong... I don't think I see you point. He still correctly pointed out your mistake.
Edit: Speaking of which, I'm glad Jjakji's back, he looked pretty good yesterday too. Maybe having some team stability will do wonders for his play.
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On August 16 2013 07:03 neptunusfisk wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2013 02:18 Penev wrote:
For the Korean esports organization enthusiasts:
jjakji is not on an esf team
esf = non-kespa, the correct definition.
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Wow jjakji I'm glad to see you back!
Can we get a statement from Seed about being the most irrelevant Code S champion?
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On August 16 2013 05:36 ThePrince wrote:
It takes an Effort to call Losire Kangho. Does that mean it takes a Kangho to call Hurricane a Losire?
please stop
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On August 16 2013 00:29 skylarr wrote:
I heard effort got fucked by a bug
Ya, he ran a bunch of roaches into fallen rocks seconds after they fell when KangHo destroyed them. The roaches just died, nyan.
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On August 17 2013 01:38 SeraNyan wrote:Ya, he ran a bunch of roaches into fallen rocks seconds after they fell when KangHo destroyed them. The roaches just died, nyan.
it's not a bug when you kill the collapsable rocks if there is not place for the game to move the units from under the place where they fall...the said units will just die...for exemple you get rocks low...then you ff zerg units in there then kill the collapsable rocks...they all die...instant win xD
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Sort of balanced on race numbers... I am surprised, so glad to see it. And it is kinda sad to see so many newish players that never made it so far reaching Code S without hope of winning the whole thing while other old good ones (like Foxer) are stucked so badly and some of them falling like Leenock :'(
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On August 16 2013 08:55 painkilla wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2013 07:03 neptunusfisk wrote:On August 16 2013 02:18 Penev wrote:
For the Korean esports organization enthusiasts:
jjakji is not on an esf team esf = non-kespa, the correct definition.
By your logic, Naniwa, Stephano, Huk, are all eSF players.
That's called anti-kespa mentality, just call all of them as non-kespa players, and call your self as anti-kespa fan from now on. This has absolutely nothing to do with eSF.
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On August 16 2013 08:50 Wuster wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2013 07:21 Penev wrote:On August 16 2013 07:03 neptunusfisk wrote:On August 16 2013 02:18 Penev wrote:
For the Korean esports organization enthusiasts:
jjakji is not on an esf team Yes, and you're not a true Korean esports organization enthusiast. + Show Spoiler + Notice how PartinG is specifically mentioned So you got PartinG right but Jjakji wrong... I don't think I see you point. He still correctly pointed out your mistake. Edit: Speaking of which, I'm glad Jjakji's back, he looked pretty good yesterday too. Maybe having some team stability will do wonders for his play.
It wasn't a mistake. You have to know the history of the KesPA vs ESF thing aka the "the elephant in the room" thing. It's not important that it isn't completely accurate; It's actually more of a joke now, really. Replace ESF with "pioneers" if you want it to be more accurate. The pioneers being the players who left KesPA in the beginning of SC2. Many people thought (including me) that once KesPA would switch to SC2 after a certain time (my guess was after the release of HotS) their players would dominate the scene. At least until now, it's been pretty much 50/50, exactly 50/50 actually, because PartinG should be considered a pioneer. Not being a Korean esports organization enthusiast is, at least in my book, a good thing btw. I find the "YAY KESPA/ ESF" posts in the LR threads very silly. The seriously meant ones I mean.
@HolyArrow: Telepathy, no doubt. xD
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On August 17 2013 03:55 Charlie.Sheen wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2013 08:55 painkilla wrote:On August 16 2013 07:03 neptunusfisk wrote:On August 16 2013 02:18 Penev wrote:
For the Korean esports organization enthusiasts:
jjakji is not on an esf team esf = non-kespa, the correct definition. By your logic, Naniwa, Stephano, Huk, are all eSF players. That's called anti-kespa mentality, just call all of them as non-kespa players, and call your self as anti-kespa fan. This has absolutely nothing to do with eSF.
You're technically right, but the eSF = non-Kespa sentiment makes sense in context of how eSF vs. Kespa first started: Kespa fanboys basically proclaiming how the BW players switching over would be better than everyone else. Everyone seems to be so caught up in eSF vs. Kespa that they've forgotten how this all even started, which is unfortunate because instead of people seeing the big picture, we get caught up in technicalities like "Oh Polt/Jjakji/etc. aren't eSF anymore" or debate on what players like Parting/Puzzle/CoCa/Jaedong really count as. Just kind of shows you how dumb the whole thing is, when people are arguing over a rivalry that doesn't even accurately reflect the origins of said rivalry.
@ Penev: I like how we said essentially the same thing back to back xD
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On August 17 2013 04:14 HolyArrow wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2013 03:55 Charlie.Sheen wrote:On August 16 2013 08:55 painkilla wrote:On August 16 2013 07:03 neptunusfisk wrote:On August 16 2013 02:18 Penev wrote:
For the Korean esports organization enthusiasts:
jjakji is not on an esf team esf = non-kespa, the correct definition. By your logic, Naniwa, Stephano, Huk, are all eSF players. That's called anti-kespa mentality, just call all of them as non-kespa players, and call your self as anti-kespa fan. This has absolutely nothing to do with eSF. You're technically right, but the eSF = non-Kespa sentiment makes sense in context of how eSF vs. Kespa first started: Kespa fanboys basically proclaiming how the BW players switching over would be better than everyone else. Everyone seems to be so caught up in eSF vs. Kespa that they've forgotten how this all even started, which is unfortunate because instead of people seeing the big picture, we get caught up in technicalities like "Oh Polt/Jjakji/etc. aren't eSF anymore" or debate on what players like Parting/Puzzle/CoCa/Jaedong really count as. Just kind of shows you how dumb the whole thing is, when people are arguing over a rivalry that doesn't even accurately reflect the origins of said rivalry.
Exactly, from the origin, it is basically old BW players vs original SC2 players.
Also just like many TL "elites" pointed before in lots of LR thread, there are never any eSF fans exist anyway. Then why bother with the eSF term, just call non-kespa vs kespa, that will be more intense and valid. Because there are certainly a lot of KeSPA fans exist. Just drop the eSF term in this rivalry argument from now on.
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awesome lineup, and now it's actually ok to root for zerg because not everyone thinks they are OP and all. lol
True and soO are gonna knock out some favorites for sure ^_^ GL all
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On August 17 2013 04:18 Charlie.Sheen wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2013 04:14 HolyArrow wrote:On August 17 2013 03:55 Charlie.Sheen wrote:On August 16 2013 08:55 painkilla wrote:On August 16 2013 07:03 neptunusfisk wrote:On August 16 2013 02:18 Penev wrote:
For the Korean esports organization enthusiasts:
jjakji is not on an esf team esf = non-kespa, the correct definition. By your logic, Naniwa, Stephano, Huk, are all eSF players. That's called anti-kespa mentality, just call all of them as non-kespa players, and call your self as anti-kespa fan. This has absolutely nothing to do with eSF. You're technically right, but the eSF = non-Kespa sentiment makes sense in context of how eSF vs. Kespa first started: Kespa fanboys basically proclaiming how the BW players switching over would be better than everyone else. Everyone seems to be so caught up in eSF vs. Kespa that they've forgotten how this all even started, which is unfortunate because instead of people seeing the big picture, we get caught up in technicalities like "Oh Polt/Jjakji/etc. aren't eSF anymore" or debate on what players like Parting/Puzzle/CoCa/Jaedong really count as. Just kind of shows you how dumb the whole thing is, when people are arguing over a rivalry that doesn't even accurately reflect the origins of said rivalry. Exactly, from the origin, it is basically old BW players vs original SC2 players. Also just like many TL "elites" pointed before in lots of LR thread, there are never any eSF fans exist anyway. Then why bother with the eSF term, just call non-kespa vs kespa, that will be more intense and valid. Because there are certainly a lot of KeSPA fans exist. Just drop the eSF term in this rivalry argument from now on.
Sure, I'd be completely fine with turning it into non-Kespa vs. Kespa because that would be more accurate. I refer to it as eSF vs. Kespa because whenever I join a conversation regarding the subject, people are calling it that so I just go along with it instead of derailing the conversation on semantics.
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On August 17 2013 04:22 HolyArrow wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2013 04:18 Charlie.Sheen wrote:On August 17 2013 04:14 HolyArrow wrote:On August 17 2013 03:55 Charlie.Sheen wrote:On August 16 2013 08:55 painkilla wrote:On August 16 2013 07:03 neptunusfisk wrote:On August 16 2013 02:18 Penev wrote:
For the Korean esports organization enthusiasts:
jjakji is not on an esf team esf = non-kespa, the correct definition. By your logic, Naniwa, Stephano, Huk, are all eSF players. That's called anti-kespa mentality, just call all of them as non-kespa players, and call your self as anti-kespa fan. This has absolutely nothing to do with eSF. You're technically right, but the eSF = non-Kespa sentiment makes sense in context of how eSF vs. Kespa first started: Kespa fanboys basically proclaiming how the BW players switching over would be better than everyone else. Everyone seems to be so caught up in eSF vs. Kespa that they've forgotten how this all even started, which is unfortunate because instead of people seeing the big picture, we get caught up in technicalities like "Oh Polt/Jjakji/etc. aren't eSF anymore" or debate on what players like Parting/Puzzle/CoCa/Jaedong really count as. Just kind of shows you how dumb the whole thing is, when people are arguing over a rivalry that doesn't even accurately reflect the origins of said rivalry. Exactly, from the origin, it is basically old BW players vs original SC2 players. Also just like many TL "elites" pointed before in lots of LR thread, there are never any eSF fans exist anyway. Then why bother with the eSF term, just call non-kespa vs kespa, that will be more intense and valid. Because there are certainly a lot of KeSPA fans exist. Just drop the eSF term in this rivalry argument from now on. Sure, I'd be completely fine with turning it into non-Kespa vs. Kespa because that would be more accurate. I refer to it as eSF vs. Kespa because whenever I join a conversation regarding the subject, people are calling it that so I just go along with it instead of derailing the conversation on semantics.
Sure, but if you call it eSF vs Kespa, then make it right by excluding ex-esf players, otherwise, that's pretty silly.
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On August 17 2013 04:24 Charlie.Sheen wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2013 04:22 HolyArrow wrote:On August 17 2013 04:18 Charlie.Sheen wrote:On August 17 2013 04:14 HolyArrow wrote:On August 17 2013 03:55 Charlie.Sheen wrote:On August 16 2013 08:55 painkilla wrote:On August 16 2013 07:03 neptunusfisk wrote:On August 16 2013 02:18 Penev wrote:
For the Korean esports organization enthusiasts:
jjakji is not on an esf team esf = non-kespa, the correct definition. By your logic, Naniwa, Stephano, Huk, are all eSF players. That's called anti-kespa mentality, just call all of them as non-kespa players, and call your self as anti-kespa fan. This has absolutely nothing to do with eSF. You're technically right, but the eSF = non-Kespa sentiment makes sense in context of how eSF vs. Kespa first started: Kespa fanboys basically proclaiming how the BW players switching over would be better than everyone else. Everyone seems to be so caught up in eSF vs. Kespa that they've forgotten how this all even started, which is unfortunate because instead of people seeing the big picture, we get caught up in technicalities like "Oh Polt/Jjakji/etc. aren't eSF anymore" or debate on what players like Parting/Puzzle/CoCa/Jaedong really count as. Just kind of shows you how dumb the whole thing is, when people are arguing over a rivalry that doesn't even accurately reflect the origins of said rivalry. Exactly, from the origin, it is basically old BW players vs original SC2 players. Also just like many TL "elites" pointed before in lots of LR thread, there are never any eSF fans exist anyway. Then why bother with the eSF term, just call non-kespa vs kespa, that will be more intense and valid. Because there are certainly a lot of KeSPA fans exist. Just drop the eSF term in this rivalry argument from now on. Sure, I'd be completely fine with turning it into non-Kespa vs. Kespa because that would be more accurate. I refer to it as eSF vs. Kespa because whenever I join a conversation regarding the subject, people are calling it that so I just go along with it instead of derailing the conversation on semantics. Sure, but if you call it eSF vs Kespa, then make it right by excluding ex-esf players, otherwise, that's pretty silly.
Exactly, semantics.
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anyone else notice how sleep is in code s now!! holy shit fuck yea go sleep
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DRG jjakji and Killer(swagger) good to see old names back in code-S.
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On August 17 2013 03:55 Charlie.Sheen wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2013 08:55 painkilla wrote:On August 16 2013 07:03 neptunusfisk wrote:On August 16 2013 02:18 Penev wrote:
For the Korean esports organization enthusiasts:
jjakji is not on an esf team esf = non-kespa, the correct definition. By your logic, Naniwa, Stephano, Huk, are all eSF players. That's called anti-kespa mentality, just call all of them as non-kespa players, and call your self as anti-kespa fan from now on. This has absolutely nothing to do with eSF.
Because if we restrict to the true esf teams then the competition kespa vs esf becomes nonsensical given one side is three time as big. There is no fun in that. I don't think there is any confusion in referring to gomtv korean players as esf.
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On August 17 2013 04:09 Penev wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2013 08:50 Wuster wrote:On August 16 2013 07:21 Penev wrote:On August 16 2013 07:03 neptunusfisk wrote:On August 16 2013 02:18 Penev wrote:
For the Korean esports organization enthusiasts:
jjakji is not on an esf team Yes, and you're not a true Korean esports organization enthusiast. + Show Spoiler + Notice how PartinG is specifically mentioned So you got PartinG right but Jjakji wrong... I don't think I see you point. He still correctly pointed out your mistake. Edit: Speaking of which, I'm glad Jjakji's back, he looked pretty good yesterday too. Maybe having some team stability will do wonders for his play. It wasn't a mistake. You have to know the history of the KesPA vs ESF thing aka the "the elephant in the room" thing. It's not important that it isn't completely accurate; It's actually more of a joke now, really. Replace ESF with "pioneers" if you want it to be more accurate. The pioneers being the players who left KesPA in the beginning of SC2. Many people thought (including me) that once KesPA would switch to SC2 after a certain time (my guess was after the release of HotS) their players would dominate the scene. At least until now, it's been pretty much 50/50, exactly 50/50 actually, because PartinG should be considered a pioneer. Not being a Korean esports organization enthusiast is, at least in my book, a good thing btw. I find the "YAY KESPA/ ESF" posts in the LR threads very silly. The seriously meant ones I mean. @HolyArrow: Telepathy, no doubt. xD
It is my favorite joke on this forum actually. The elephant article was rubbish that disrespected a lot of hard working SC2 players. And it was wrong.
But Kespa players still get too much credit. If you ignore Proleague results, a lot of the Kespa players aren't very good. And that says a lot about the quality of play in Proleague. We all know what happened when Dear called out Naniwa at MLG, and that is just one of the hard lessons in humility that the elephant believers have had to endure.
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On August 17 2013 04:09 Penev wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2013 08:50 Wuster wrote:On August 16 2013 07:21 Penev wrote:On August 16 2013 07:03 neptunusfisk wrote:On August 16 2013 02:18 Penev wrote:
For the Korean esports organization enthusiasts:
jjakji is not on an esf team Yes, and you're not a true Korean esports organization enthusiast. + Show Spoiler + Notice how PartinG is specifically mentioned So you got PartinG right but Jjakji wrong... I don't think I see you point. He still correctly pointed out your mistake. Edit: Speaking of which, I'm glad Jjakji's back, he looked pretty good yesterday too. Maybe having some team stability will do wonders for his play. It wasn't a mistake. You have to know the history of the KesPA vs ESF thing aka the "the elephant in the room" thing. It's not important that it isn't completely accurate; It's actually more of a joke now, really. Replace ESF with "pioneers" if you want it to be more accurate. The pioneers being the players who left KesPA in the beginning of SC2. Many people thought (including me) that once KesPA would switch to SC2 after a certain time (my guess was after the release of HotS) their players would dominate the scene. At least until now, it's been pretty much 50/50, exactly 50/50 actually, because PartinG should be considered a pioneer. Not being a Korean esports organization enthusiast is, at least in my book, a good thing btw. I find the "YAY KESPA/ ESF" posts in the LR threads very silly. The seriously meant ones I mean. @HolyArrow: Telepathy, no doubt. xD
So the entire thing was some weird inside-joke you and HolyArrow and a few other's got?
I do remember the Elephant in the Room article, I remember the OSL / GSL spat last year where ESF was an important organization. Also, the earlier Slayer's and NASL 2* controversies both made ESF a tangible organization and not just some made-up entity in the mind of fanboys.
I'm not entirely sure when it turned into meaning Kespa versus the World, probably when people realized Slayers wasn't in ESF and the non-Kespa Koreans started jumping around to different teams. So it's increasingly becoming more of a misnomer and almost short-hand for GSTL team or non-Kespa as you say.
I agree that the entire rivalry is silly, but like you said, some people take it seriously, some keep score and you did word things pretty ambiguously (your first response especially). But I see what you mean now.
Edit: Ok this was SC2Con, the precursor to eSF, but I think the point still stands.
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some of you guys take the esf/kespa, elephant thing too seriously
its no more than senior prank on freshmen...some seniors will take their elitism seriously with arrogance and most freshmen will get butthurt and take it serious...but most of seniors are just laughing our ass off and move on and some freshment will understand and move on too.
so lets keep the esf/kespa rivalry, elephant, a fun thing to joke about and not something to go full retard over.
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