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Wertheron
Profile Joined October 2011
France439 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-10 10:00:37
May 10 2013 10:00 GMT
#2741
Idra was always like that, he will never change is crappy mentality toward the game.

You don't want to listen ? Look at this thread in 2009, even in BW it was the same shit: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=88342
bGr.MetHiX
Profile Joined February 2011
Bulgaria511 Posts
May 10 2013 10:01 GMT
#2742
On May 10 2013 18:55 gamerdude12345 wrote:
What I predict will happen

1. Idra race changes to Terran
2. Idra uses his saved up cash to fly to korea
3. iloveoov and Boxer decide to take him on as a protege
4. He joins SKT T1
5. He changes his name to Idrajit
6. He all-kills EG-TL in the finals of Proleague; SKT T1 vs EGTL


7. you wake up and there's a drool pond on ur pillow
Top50 GM EU Protoss from Bulgaria. Streaming with commentary : www.twitch.tv/hwbgmethix
xPliCt
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany143 Posts
May 10 2013 10:01 GMT
#2743
On May 10 2013 18:55 gamerdude12345 wrote:
What I predict will happen

1. Idra race changes to Terran
2. Idra uses his saved up cash to fly to korea
3. iloveoov and Boxer decide to take him on as a protege
4. He joins SKT T1
5. He changes his name to Idrajit
6. He all-kills EG-TL in the finals of Proleague; SKT T1 vs EGTL


7. he wakes up
GaNgStaRR.ElV
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada535 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-10 10:06:37
May 10 2013 10:02 GMT
#2744
On May 10 2013 18:50 FuzZyLogic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 18:42 GaNgStaRR.ElV wrote:
On May 10 2013 18:34 FuzZyLogic wrote:
On May 10 2013 18:31 GaNgStaRR.ElV wrote:
On May 10 2013 18:30 Ficetool wrote:
On May 10 2013 17:53 Evangelist wrote:
On May 10 2013 17:51 Terranist wrote:
On May 10 2013 17:40 Fuell wrote:
On May 10 2013 17:32 Jakkerr wrote:
On May 10 2013 17:29 tomatriedes wrote:
Idra being Idra I can't see him being willing to take a salary cut to keep playing a game he's not very enthusiastic about and what non-Korean team can possibly match what EG was paying him?


Are you implying that Korean teams can match what EG was paying him or am I just misunderstanding your comment.
As far as outside of Korea goes, yeah EG had the best facilities and he screwed it up.

Most Korean teams can easily match IdrA's salary with EG, especially KeSPA teams.


i'd like to see what convinced you to think that ludicrous statement is even remotely true.


Or what Korean team is going to want to employ a player who quits a 200/200 game against Polt.


Please learn to understand the game..... Idra had already lost. He simply didn't want to take the off chance to take the fight and win by a nmiracle. Just PLESA learn to play before posting stupid statements like this


Im sorry but as long as you have a 200/200 army, mining bases and a bank, you can't say anyone has "lost".

Always nice to see low-master criticize pro-gamers. Granted, there is always a chance to win.. His were extremely low and it WAS a disservice to fans but don't pretend like you understand the situation.

btw: ask ANYONE who seriously followed bw and sc2 (while they were active, not watched vods from years ago). Try to find one person who says sc2 is the better game.

There's nothing wrong with enjoying sc2, but it's simply the only competitive rts right now.. Being the only choice doesn't mean it's an objectively great game.



Ok,I seriously followed bw, wc3 and sc2, I think sc2 is the better game. Your extremely abstract statement means nothing because you just put words in people's mouths.

And I love how you subjectively write off my opinion based on your perceived opinion on my skill level, clearly all I have to do is beat you is take one advantage, thanks.

I never said Idra was in winning position but he should atleast have the bloody honor to go out like a man fighting, trying to capture that moment of brilliance, rather than just being an embarassment to the professionalism of esports.

So are you low-master? What years did you follow bw? I feel like you are just saying you did to prove me wrong.. I would like to hear reasons why you say sc2 is better? As far as the much larger foreign scene I can see that, but as far as quality of games/gameplay?



My first game of edit:Starcraft was in 1998, played it on and off until WC3 came out when I followed the pro-scene there instead of BW(at the time following pro-BW was a pain in the ass).

I got into BW a few times in those years as a I fell in and out of love with WC3 and prepared for the release of SC2. Can't really tell you the years because honestly why the hell would I remember exactly the years I followed BW, it all blur's into one.

I believe SC2 to be the better game because it is newer and is the continuation of the classic. I don't cry about spilt milk like some people who cry for lurkers, reavers and defilers because this game doesn't need them.

Oh and the fact that it isn't a logistical nightmare just to play on a basic level or god forbid you ever wish to get someone into it, that you cant dodge opponents due to the ladder system, all community stuff you mentioned. Just the fact that I can pop up my comp, hit 3 keys and a password, and be matched with an opponent with almost no thought required makes it a better game.


And honestly, compare BW games from early 2001 with SC2 games from 2013, they are pretty comparable. The only real difference is that BW set up our scene to expect a super-high level of gameplay so that the early roots of SC2 seemed like a down-grade, people forget that BW had 10 years to marinate and develop a deep meta-game, whereas SC2 is just developing that metagame.
Ficetool
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany165 Posts
May 10 2013 10:02 GMT
#2745
On May 10 2013 18:58 Rabiator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 18:40 Ficetool wrote:
On May 10 2013 18:31 GaNgStaRR.ElV wrote:
On May 10 2013 18:30 Ficetool wrote:
On May 10 2013 17:53 Evangelist wrote:
On May 10 2013 17:51 Terranist wrote:
On May 10 2013 17:40 Fuell wrote:
On May 10 2013 17:32 Jakkerr wrote:
On May 10 2013 17:29 tomatriedes wrote:
Idra being Idra I can't see him being willing to take a salary cut to keep playing a game he's not very enthusiastic about and what non-Korean team can possibly match what EG was paying him?


Are you implying that Korean teams can match what EG was paying him or am I just misunderstanding your comment.
As far as outside of Korea goes, yeah EG had the best facilities and he screwed it up.

Most Korean teams can easily match IdrA's salary with EG, especially KeSPA teams.


i'd like to see what convinced you to think that ludicrous statement is even remotely true.


Or what Korean team is going to want to employ a player who quits a 200/200 game against Polt.


Please learn to understand the game..... Idra had already lost. He simply didn't want to take the off chance to take the fight and win by a nmiracle. Just PLESA learn to play before posting stupid statements like this


Im sorry but as long as you have a 200/200 army, mining bases and a bank, you can't say anyone has "lost".


If your opponent has one mining base more, can harrass you all game long without having a chance to do sth about it and continously poke your army with HSM you have pretty much lost. Of course, as i said, there wa a small chance he could have somehow made it and I agree that he should have stay and at least tried something. However, his chances of winning were like non existent

With HotS the game has turned MUCH MORE harrass centered and people have to realize that they MUST build static defenses to get rid of or at least deter Medivacs and Oracles. If someone lets another player do that to him then he deserves to lose, but there are a ton of ways to shut down harrassment and they pretty much involve static defenses. Even if a Spore Crawler doesnt do anything against a Widow Mine it can detect them AND it shoots the Medivac which drops the mine. It also doesnt cost any gas, which is kinda rare in the early stages of the game. All it takes is accepting this fact and getting rid of the "static defenses are uncool" mantra from your general thinking.

----

As someone who used to rage and rant at every lost game I can say there is a way to get rid of that rage. For me the change happened when I was roughly 12 years old ... some decades ago. It might be a bit too late for IdrA now, but the rage is fueled by the will to win and the frustration of not winning. Take away the rage and you have to take a part of the NEED to win as well ... which also fuels determination to practice.


And because Polt actually used widowmine drops in this scenario and did not just run groups of units to the bases and/or dropped further away and stimmed there in order to kill them your argument is completely relevant and helps us understand how idra could have handled the situation. Thanks for your insightful comment which is totally related to the late game situation of the game =)
pms
Profile Joined April 2008
Poland611 Posts
May 10 2013 10:02 GMT
#2746
The exact reason why Idra got released (cited after a post from Reddit, but also I saw it on the TL forum in several places):

He was BM to polt in his WCS match but that wasn't much of an issue for them because he has always been BM to other pros. What happened was that IdrA responded to a post on Team Liquid that was saying that he was a nice guy and IdrA said "nope, you're all a bunch of fucks, it just so happens that I get paid to treat you like it. It's fucking awesome." Note this was a fan defending IdrA that he said this to.
bluQ
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Germany1724 Posts
May 10 2013 10:03 GMT
#2747
Idra changing to LoL. Heard it here first´-
www.twitch.tv/bluquh (PoE, Starbow, HS)
GaNgStaRR.ElV
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada535 Posts
May 10 2013 10:05 GMT
#2748
On May 10 2013 19:02 Ficetool wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 18:58 Rabiator wrote:
On May 10 2013 18:40 Ficetool wrote:
On May 10 2013 18:31 GaNgStaRR.ElV wrote:
On May 10 2013 18:30 Ficetool wrote:
On May 10 2013 17:53 Evangelist wrote:
On May 10 2013 17:51 Terranist wrote:
On May 10 2013 17:40 Fuell wrote:
On May 10 2013 17:32 Jakkerr wrote:
On May 10 2013 17:29 tomatriedes wrote:
Idra being Idra I can't see him being willing to take a salary cut to keep playing a game he's not very enthusiastic about and what non-Korean team can possibly match what EG was paying him?


Are you implying that Korean teams can match what EG was paying him or am I just misunderstanding your comment.
As far as outside of Korea goes, yeah EG had the best facilities and he screwed it up.

Most Korean teams can easily match IdrA's salary with EG, especially KeSPA teams.


i'd like to see what convinced you to think that ludicrous statement is even remotely true.


Or what Korean team is going to want to employ a player who quits a 200/200 game against Polt.


Please learn to understand the game..... Idra had already lost. He simply didn't want to take the off chance to take the fight and win by a nmiracle. Just PLESA learn to play before posting stupid statements like this


Im sorry but as long as you have a 200/200 army, mining bases and a bank, you can't say anyone has "lost".


If your opponent has one mining base more, can harrass you all game long without having a chance to do sth about it and continously poke your army with HSM you have pretty much lost. Of course, as i said, there wa a small chance he could have somehow made it and I agree that he should have stay and at least tried something. However, his chances of winning were like non existent

With HotS the game has turned MUCH MORE harrass centered and people have to realize that they MUST build static defenses to get rid of or at least deter Medivacs and Oracles. If someone lets another player do that to him then he deserves to lose, but there are a ton of ways to shut down harrassment and they pretty much involve static defenses. Even if a Spore Crawler doesnt do anything against a Widow Mine it can detect them AND it shoots the Medivac which drops the mine. It also doesnt cost any gas, which is kinda rare in the early stages of the game. All it takes is accepting this fact and getting rid of the "static defenses are uncool" mantra from your general thinking.

----

As someone who used to rage and rant at every lost game I can say there is a way to get rid of that rage. For me the change happened when I was roughly 12 years old ... some decades ago. It might be a bit too late for IdrA now, but the rage is fueled by the will to win and the frustration of not winning. Take away the rage and you have to take a part of the NEED to win as well ... which also fuels determination to practice.


And because Polt actually used widowmine drops in this scenario and did not just run groups of units to the bases and/or dropped further away and stimmed there in order to kill them your argument is completely relevant and helps us understand how idra could have handled the situation. Thanks for your insightful comment which is totally related to the late game situation of the game =)


His point stands if you change "spore" for "spine". Way to be a douchebag. PS sarcasm totally doesn't work online
vAtAZz
Profile Joined September 2011
France250 Posts
May 10 2013 10:06 GMT
#2749
Shame shame shame! It would have been more reasonable a suspension like Stephano imo, but it is true the this is not the first time...
Talent is nothing if you don't have the constant desire to stay at the top. SlayerSBoxeR
Usernameffs
Profile Joined February 2013
Sweden107 Posts
May 10 2013 10:07 GMT
#2750
On May 10 2013 19:03 bluQ wrote:
Idra changing to LoL. Heard it here first´-

Why would he change to LoL when he's a macro baed strategy gamer and can go back to school instead of playing a dying LoL.
Gravesong
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States96 Posts
May 10 2013 10:07 GMT
#2751
On May 10 2013 18:36 Xenomorph wrote:
Idra is an interesting personality. Even if he feels self entitled at times. This is because he's always been a pro gamer and had success. I'm of a libertarian mindset that having a large ego is actually good, because it means you are trying to be the best that you can and think that way as well.

At any rate it will be interesting to see what team he goes to next.


I understand that opinion to an extent, having a strong personality as well as a lot of confidence is excellent for a progamer. But with esports becoming bigger and more professional as an industry, the added responsibilities, especially regarding fans and media, should be taught to these guys. They need some personal managers like any other sport business -- the top athletes in the world have them to direct them, help them make the best decisions financially, and to help push them in the right directions for their careers.

I guess esports may be a bit young for this, esp. with much less money and profitability for the majority of players, but I wish there were more mentors that could help cultivate these talents. We need like more youth systems like in European soccer with authority figures who can help guide future stars or something.
Gallerz
Profile Joined May 2013
United Kingdom5 Posts
May 10 2013 10:07 GMT
#2752
i did not expect him to be removed from EG but i did expect punishment in some form considering his outbursts against the community, but still surprised
GnoM
Profile Joined September 2011
Norway145 Posts
May 10 2013 10:08 GMT
#2753
Wow, Jebus, did not se this.
But probably a good move for EG.
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
May 10 2013 10:08 GMT
#2754
On May 10 2013 18:55 gamerdude12345 wrote:
6. He all-kills EG-TL in the finals of Proleague; SKT T1 vs EGTL
EGTL in the finals of Proleague? Shit, I believed everything else.
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
Exstasy
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom393 Posts
May 10 2013 10:10 GMT
#2755
I really don't want this to come across as a personal attack,

But judging his form and current skill, he really didn't deserve to be a salaried player.

I think EG has just made a smart financial decision
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
May 10 2013 10:10 GMT
#2756
On May 10 2013 18:56 Jayson X wrote:
You know what rubbed me the wrong way is how high incontrol held idra up in the air. So yeah I get he's your friend but that's exactly why I don't follow SC2 anymore when we value "characters" so much higher than they actually are. He posts a negative comment on reddit or twitter and people go insane? That's because he's an attention whore.

I'm tired of this soap opera for the small minded in this community. The phrase "I'm kind of a big deal on the internet" comes to mind. Noone really cares once life goes on.That's why the community is so fast jumping from one thing to another. Give this another week and no one cares that Idra got thrown out of EG. He commentated or played well? There's a mass of other players and commentators to step in that are much more willing to not shit on the community and their employers.

So yeah Incontrol he might be your friend. But your friend is kind of a fuck up. A little real world wouldn't hurt that guy.


The vocal loyals together with witch-hunters and drama-bees overstate the numbers of people interested in what a guy like IdrA said about something. His name makes news for the force of his BW feats and his unmistakable BM. It's only a soap opera for the people that feed off it. That's an aside to society not to the player that prompts it. It's the plurality (or majority) of a reddit-like following that sustains these self-righteous calls of "Look at all that undeserved attention!" How about talking about the silent majority of chuckling viewers that say, "Oh, IdrA" after his antics as they would a child of some famous actor.

InControl does his thing for his teammate and its frankly fine and dandy. Nothing here points to a misplaced value in "characters." From the minority that goes insane, you miss the majority that laugh and click the next link.
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
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Ficetool
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany165 Posts
May 10 2013 10:10 GMT
#2757
On May 10 2013 19:05 GaNgStaRR.ElV wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 19:02 Ficetool wrote:
On May 10 2013 18:58 Rabiator wrote:
On May 10 2013 18:40 Ficetool wrote:
On May 10 2013 18:31 GaNgStaRR.ElV wrote:
On May 10 2013 18:30 Ficetool wrote:
On May 10 2013 17:53 Evangelist wrote:
On May 10 2013 17:51 Terranist wrote:
On May 10 2013 17:40 Fuell wrote:
On May 10 2013 17:32 Jakkerr wrote:
[quote]

Are you implying that Korean teams can match what EG was paying him or am I just misunderstanding your comment.
As far as outside of Korea goes, yeah EG had the best facilities and he screwed it up.

Most Korean teams can easily match IdrA's salary with EG, especially KeSPA teams.


i'd like to see what convinced you to think that ludicrous statement is even remotely true.


Or what Korean team is going to want to employ a player who quits a 200/200 game against Polt.


Please learn to understand the game..... Idra had already lost. He simply didn't want to take the off chance to take the fight and win by a nmiracle. Just PLESA learn to play before posting stupid statements like this


Im sorry but as long as you have a 200/200 army, mining bases and a bank, you can't say anyone has "lost".


If your opponent has one mining base more, can harrass you all game long without having a chance to do sth about it and continously poke your army with HSM you have pretty much lost. Of course, as i said, there wa a small chance he could have somehow made it and I agree that he should have stay and at least tried something. However, his chances of winning were like non existent

With HotS the game has turned MUCH MORE harrass centered and people have to realize that they MUST build static defenses to get rid of or at least deter Medivacs and Oracles. If someone lets another player do that to him then he deserves to lose, but there are a ton of ways to shut down harrassment and they pretty much involve static defenses. Even if a Spore Crawler doesnt do anything against a Widow Mine it can detect them AND it shoots the Medivac which drops the mine. It also doesnt cost any gas, which is kinda rare in the early stages of the game. All it takes is accepting this fact and getting rid of the "static defenses are uncool" mantra from your general thinking.

----

As someone who used to rage and rant at every lost game I can say there is a way to get rid of that rage. For me the change happened when I was roughly 12 years old ... some decades ago. It might be a bit too late for IdrA now, but the rage is fueled by the will to win and the frustration of not winning. Take away the rage and you have to take a part of the NEED to win as well ... which also fuels determination to practice.


And because Polt actually used widowmine drops in this scenario and did not just run groups of units to the bases and/or dropped further away and stimmed there in order to kill them your argument is completely relevant and helps us understand how idra could have handled the situation. Thanks for your insightful comment which is totally related to the late game situation of the game =)


His point stands if you change "spore" for "spine". Way to be a douchebag. PS sarcasm totally doesn't work online


For one drop you need at least 3 spines. NOt considering the fact that the Terran can simply walk around them and snipe the hatechery anyway. But thanks for your thought through post. It really helped to enforce his point that didnt make any sense to begin with as it lacks pratical usage.
In theory all of those fantastic static defense theories work. In pratice they hardly do. All the can do is delay the terran. And if your army is engaging elswhere or has to defend versus the mian army, your base will fall, no matter how much defense you put there=)
m4inbrain
Profile Joined November 2011
1505 Posts
May 10 2013 10:11 GMT
#2758
I think EG has just made a smart financial decision


.. think again.
Destroyr
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany299 Posts
May 10 2013 10:12 GMT
#2759
On May 10 2013 19:02 GaNgStaRR.ElV wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 18:50 FuzZyLogic wrote:
On May 10 2013 18:42 GaNgStaRR.ElV wrote:
On May 10 2013 18:34 FuzZyLogic wrote:
On May 10 2013 18:31 GaNgStaRR.ElV wrote:
On May 10 2013 18:30 Ficetool wrote:
On May 10 2013 17:53 Evangelist wrote:
On May 10 2013 17:51 Terranist wrote:
On May 10 2013 17:40 Fuell wrote:
On May 10 2013 17:32 Jakkerr wrote:
[quote]

Are you implying that Korean teams can match what EG was paying him or am I just misunderstanding your comment.
As far as outside of Korea goes, yeah EG had the best facilities and he screwed it up.

Most Korean teams can easily match IdrA's salary with EG, especially KeSPA teams.


i'd like to see what convinced you to think that ludicrous statement is even remotely true.


Or what Korean team is going to want to employ a player who quits a 200/200 game against Polt.


Please learn to understand the game..... Idra had already lost. He simply didn't want to take the off chance to take the fight and win by a nmiracle. Just PLESA learn to play before posting stupid statements like this


Im sorry but as long as you have a 200/200 army, mining bases and a bank, you can't say anyone has "lost".

Always nice to see low-master criticize pro-gamers. Granted, there is always a chance to win.. His were extremely low and it WAS a disservice to fans but don't pretend like you understand the situation.

btw: ask ANYONE who seriously followed bw and sc2 (while they were active, not watched vods from years ago). Try to find one person who says sc2 is the better game.

There's nothing wrong with enjoying sc2, but it's simply the only competitive rts right now.. Being the only choice doesn't mean it's an objectively great game.



Ok,I seriously followed bw, wc3 and sc2, I think sc2 is the better game. Your extremely abstract statement means nothing because you just put words in people's mouths.

And I love how you subjectively write off my opinion based on your perceived opinion on my skill level, clearly all I have to do is beat you is take one advantage, thanks.

I never said Idra was in winning position but he should atleast have the bloody honor to go out like a man fighting, trying to capture that moment of brilliance, rather than just being an embarassment to the professionalism of esports.

So are you low-master? What years did you follow bw? I feel like you are just saying you did to prove me wrong.. I would like to hear reasons why you say sc2 is better? As far as the much larger foreign scene I can see that, but as far as quality of games/gameplay?



My first game of BW was in 1998, played it on and off until WC3 came out when I followed the pro-scene there instead of BW(at the time following pro-BW was a pain in the ass).

I got into BW a few times in those years as a I fell in and out of love with WC3 and prepared for the release of SC2. Can't really tell you the years because honestly why the hell would I remember exactly the years I followed BW, it all blur's into one.

I believe SC2 to be the better game because it is newer and is the continuation of the classic. I don't cry about spilt milk like some people who cry for lurkers, reavers and defilers because this game doesn't need them.

Oh and the fact that it isn't a logistical nightmare just to play on a basic level or god forbid you ever wish to get someone into it, that you cant dodge opponents due to the ladder system, all community stuff you mentioned. Just the fact that I can pop up my comp, hit 3 keys and a password, and be matched with an opponent with almost no thought required makes it a better game.


And honestly, compare BW games from early 2001 with SC2 games from 2013, they are pretty comparable. The only real difference is that BW set up our scene to expect a super-high level of gameplay so that the early roots of SC2 seemed like a down-grade, people forget that BW had 10 years to marinate and develop a deep meta-game, whereas SC2 is just developing that metagame.


I don't get your point. I cant help but see missed opportunities when I compare the games and think about the huge problems like "supply inflation" or "mapmaking".
GaNgStaRR.ElV
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada535 Posts
May 10 2013 10:13 GMT
#2760
On May 10 2013 19:10 Ficetool wrote:
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On May 10 2013 19:05 GaNgStaRR.ElV wrote:
On May 10 2013 19:02 Ficetool wrote:
On May 10 2013 18:58 Rabiator wrote:
On May 10 2013 18:40 Ficetool wrote:
On May 10 2013 18:31 GaNgStaRR.ElV wrote:
On May 10 2013 18:30 Ficetool wrote:
On May 10 2013 17:53 Evangelist wrote:
On May 10 2013 17:51 Terranist wrote:
On May 10 2013 17:40 Fuell wrote:
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Most Korean teams can easily match IdrA's salary with EG, especially KeSPA teams.


i'd like to see what convinced you to think that ludicrous statement is even remotely true.


Or what Korean team is going to want to employ a player who quits a 200/200 game against Polt.


Please learn to understand the game..... Idra had already lost. He simply didn't want to take the off chance to take the fight and win by a nmiracle. Just PLESA learn to play before posting stupid statements like this


Im sorry but as long as you have a 200/200 army, mining bases and a bank, you can't say anyone has "lost".


If your opponent has one mining base more, can harrass you all game long without having a chance to do sth about it and continously poke your army with HSM you have pretty much lost. Of course, as i said, there wa a small chance he could have somehow made it and I agree that he should have stay and at least tried something. However, his chances of winning were like non existent

With HotS the game has turned MUCH MORE harrass centered and people have to realize that they MUST build static defenses to get rid of or at least deter Medivacs and Oracles. If someone lets another player do that to him then he deserves to lose, but there are a ton of ways to shut down harrassment and they pretty much involve static defenses. Even if a Spore Crawler doesnt do anything against a Widow Mine it can detect them AND it shoots the Medivac which drops the mine. It also doesnt cost any gas, which is kinda rare in the early stages of the game. All it takes is accepting this fact and getting rid of the "static defenses are uncool" mantra from your general thinking.

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As someone who used to rage and rant at every lost game I can say there is a way to get rid of that rage. For me the change happened when I was roughly 12 years old ... some decades ago. It might be a bit too late for IdrA now, but the rage is fueled by the will to win and the frustration of not winning. Take away the rage and you have to take a part of the NEED to win as well ... which also fuels determination to practice.


And because Polt actually used widowmine drops in this scenario and did not just run groups of units to the bases and/or dropped further away and stimmed there in order to kill them your argument is completely relevant and helps us understand how idra could have handled the situation. Thanks for your insightful comment which is totally related to the late game situation of the game =)


His point stands if you change "spore" for "spine". Way to be a douchebag. PS sarcasm totally doesn't work online


For one drop you need at least 3 spines. NOt considering the fact that the Terran can simply walk around them and snipe the hatechery anyway. But thanks for your thought through post. It really helped to enforce his point that didnt make any sense to begin with as it lacks pratical usage.
In theory all of those fantastic static defense theories work. In pratice they hardly do. All the can do is delay the terran. And if your army is engaging elswhere or has to defend versus the mian army, your base will fall, no matter how much defense you put there=)



You call me low-master and yet completely forget the fact that to quote you "static defence buys time" for you to split off enough units to defend the base. Judging by the fact you don't even consider this an option is ridiculous, it's called basic skills.
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