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FinalForm
Profile Joined August 2010
United States450 Posts
May 09 2013 02:36 GMT
#121
I have the same problem
NewTypeBeez
Profile Joined February 2013
United States35 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-09 02:44:14
May 09 2013 02:39 GMT
#122
Mostly the time and money involved, in addition to the fact that I generally like to try to solve problems on my own if I can help it.

I know there's irony in that previous statement considering this thread, but I looked at this as more of a way to collect ideas from other gamers who may have encountered this kind of thing.


Time - you can be evaluated by someone at a psych hospital or an emergency room in 10 - 15 minutes, possibly even less. A psych hospital can actually do this over the phone for your convenience.

Money - said evaluation is free (unless at emergency room) and if you actually wanted to get help at a psych facility, your insurance will more than likely cover it.

Hey, if you want to compile everyones ideas to help you from ruining your life over Starcraft, then by all means try. But fix it or get help before you hurt yourself or someone else. In Starcraft we can always hit the 'play again' button, but in life we can't.
"The old generation can't build the new era!" - Char Aznable
wozzot
Profile Joined July 2012
United States1227 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-09 02:48:48
May 09 2013 02:40 GMT
#123
On May 09 2013 11:27 Lauriel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2013 11:14 wozzot wrote:
You don't actually seem to be getting anything out of playing SC2 so why bother. You just seem to be reluctant to quit because of all the time you've already sunk into it

Chill out, stick to watching Starcraft, play some ZooZoo instead. ZooZoo owns


I do like Starcraft 2.

A lot of people become alcoholics because they enjoy alcohol too, doesn't mean they shouldn't quit

Speeding and driving semi-recklessly when I have to go somewhere after playing and losing a few matches. This is the scariest thing, because I could, y'know, die, or cause someone else to die.

Yeah if you're risking your life over a video game you probably shouldn't be playing it. There are many other competitive ways to have fun, so play sports or pick up chess or something. Or try seeing a therapist and see if they don't tell you the same thing

On May 09 2013 09:13 Lauriel wrote:
To everyone saying "quit and get professional help," thank you for your input, but I'm not going to respond, simply because it's a last resort, and I'm looking for solutions that will prevent me from going to that end.

You sound like a drug addict asking how to stop being addicted without quitting drugs
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Onlinejaguar
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia2823 Posts
May 09 2013 02:42 GMT
#124
I have the same problems, its only SC2 that gets me this angry at losses. I have stoped playing competitively but continue watching GSL because i still love the game.
deo.deo
Profile Joined April 2010
135 Posts
May 09 2013 02:43 GMT
#125
stop playing the game, there are enough idiots out there, no need to add another one because of a computer game.
At your age you are not going pro anyway so whats the point since you clearly don't get any enjoyment out of the game itself.
TeslasPigeon
Profile Joined March 2012
464 Posts
May 09 2013 02:46 GMT
#126
I know others have said you should see a psychologist, I agree with that sentiment but there are other courses of action you can do yourself.

Start reading about cognitive behavior therapy. The phrases may sound scary, but the idea is about teaching you coping mechanisms that help deal with your adversities.

Here is one book I would suggest:

http://www.amazon.com/Mind-Over-Mood-Change-Changing/dp/0898621283

If you are strapped for cash it is fairly easy to find online.
MadProbe
Profile Joined February 2012
United States269 Posts
May 09 2013 02:48 GMT
#127
can you remember the last game that made you go completely apeshit?

did that person hack, cheese, exploit game imbalance, do a stupid all-in, or otherwise gain an unfair advantage?

if you feel you've been wronged -- your "revenge instinct" kicks in, driving you to say awful things and act violently.

if this is your problem, i'd recommend doing a lot of cheese and gimmicky all-ins (or whatever your opponent does that makes you rage) so that you accept those strategies as fair and valid ways to play.
ScrubS
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands436 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-09 02:54:22
May 09 2013 02:50 GMT
#128
Hihihi,

I used to have a bit similar problem when i was around 14 years old. I was in a really heavy puberty period and i would just get annoyed by everthing. I would get especially annoyed by my family as i was around them alot (I lived in the same house ofc) at some point I would burst and I would start to rage against them.

When I was 15 years old we went on holiday to Indonesia, where I ended up in some temple with alot of people meditating. Eventhough I never meditated before, I just sat next to them on a pillow and just sat there for an hour. I just sat and thought about stuff, no weird stuff like clearing your mind or holding a specific posture, just think.

For some reason this really calmed me down mentally. Its not like i was frustrated at that point, but I felt so much more relaxed. Since then I try to "meditate" on my own way very often. I just sit on the couch, in the park, or even on the train on my way somewhere and I think. Just think. Ofcourse at first I start thinking about some homework, food, or some other random stuff. But at the end I usually end up thinking about how I could improve my life by doing something or thinking differently, and that really calmes me down. Even just realizing how happy I am is a really good way to calm down.

It might sound a bit weird and makes me look like a crazy hippie, just try it. It cant hurt right? I suggest you just go to the park and just sit on a bench. Or my favorite, just sit at a really crowed place and watch people do their thing (for example, go sit next to the Eifel Tower and watch people pass by). Just sit and think, maybe even for a couple hours straight. One thing: just make sure you have nothing else to do that day, as less stress possible is really beneficial.


About the therapists,
For some reason people in the US always consult a therapist for their tiny stupid problems, eventho solving your own problems teaches you a lot more. In my country very few people see therapists even tho it is free (I actaully once read that seeing a psychiatrist can have bad results as it might fix your current problem, but makes you even less capable of fixing your next). As you stated yourself, try to solve it first, it is your last step.
forsooth
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3648 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-09 03:03:27
May 09 2013 02:52 GMT
#129
I've had a few moments of rage in SC2 where I've slammed my palm into the keyboard or cursed pretty loudly, but never anything like what you're describing. That's honestly pretty insane. I don't know dick about psychology so I'm not going to try and figure out what's going on with you, but what I do know is that you can get a cursory evaluation from a therapist for little to no cost that if nothing else might set you on the right path.

As far as the game itself, goes, I saw in one of your posts earlier that losing ladder games is particularly upsetting for you because they're isolated, meaning if you lose, that's it. You can't go back and fix things. I think that's the wrong way of looking at it though. A single game is only a part of a much larger time investment/learning process that occurs game by game. Why did you lose? What could you have done differently? You apply these things to the next game you play, and the game after that, and the game after that, and eventually you eliminate a particular weakness from your play. Maybe you play that person again in the future and they try to do the same thing, but you beat them. Maybe you forget their name altogether. I rarely remember the name of anyone I play against, mainly because it doesn't matter much to me. I'm playing against the ladder, and every opponent is either an opportunity for skill refinement, or a learning experience. The individuals themselves are irrelevant, and so is losing to them. The purpose of playing is to get better, and losing is part of that process. Some people are better than you.
DDie
Profile Joined April 2010
Brazil2369 Posts
May 09 2013 02:58 GMT
#130
On May 09 2013 08:50 Lauriel wrote:

The strange thing is that absolutely nothing else in my life gets me this upset. Nothing. I'm a very relaxed, easy-going guy in every other facet of my life. If anyone I worked with or went to school with knew this side of me existed, they would be utterly, incredibly shocked. I can't explain why video games (and starcraft, in particular) is such a trigger for me, but it has me on the verge of quitting the game, which I don't want to do because I love it, and the entire E-sports scene in general.




Sounds like you're repressing anger in everyday life and blowing it all out on games.


My suggestion is :

a) Do a martial art (i would suggest boxing/muay thai, these are the best stress relievers)

or

b) Get medical help.
''Television! Teacher, mother, secret lover.''
Lauriel
Profile Joined October 2012
United States108 Posts
May 09 2013 03:00 GMT
#131
On May 09 2013 11:58 DDie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2013 08:50 Lauriel wrote:

The strange thing is that absolutely nothing else in my life gets me this upset. Nothing. I'm a very relaxed, easy-going guy in every other facet of my life. If anyone I worked with or went to school with knew this side of me existed, they would be utterly, incredibly shocked. I can't explain why video games (and starcraft, in particular) is such a trigger for me, but it has me on the verge of quitting the game, which I don't want to do because I love it, and the entire E-sports scene in general.




Sounds like you're repressing anger in everyday life and blowing it all out on games.


My suggestion is :

a) Do a martial art (i would suggest boxing/muay thai, these are the best stress relievers)

or

b) Get medical help.



Mmm...that's not it. When things get me angry, I'm very poor at repressing it. It's more that not a lot gets me angry.
HardlyNever
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States1258 Posts
May 09 2013 03:03 GMT
#132
On May 09 2013 08:50 Lauriel wrote:
Just to be clear, I'm not talking about typing out obscenities after losing a game, punching a pillow, and being in a sour mood for a few minutes.


Wow I max out at about this, and only in the most extreme of circumstances, and thought I was bad...

Anyhow, I think you honestly should stop playing the game. I don't really see an alternative in the short-term. It just isn't worth this kind of rage.

At least switched to just unranked or something, where you won't feel as much pressure.
Out there, the Kid learned to fend for himself. Learned to build. Learned to break.
Xialos
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada508 Posts
May 09 2013 03:03 GMT
#133
You have to stop playing sc2 until you fix those issues. You should not even ask yourself the question... (considering the consequences you listed). Rational human beings should not react like that in these kind of situations. Moreover, if what you said is really true, you could truly hurt yourself...or others.

So stop until you can control yourself. (even though you like playing) That's ridiculous lol.
CrazyF1r3f0x
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States2120 Posts
May 09 2013 03:05 GMT
#134
I'm curious as to why you play StarCraft if losing can cause you to lose it, and winning merely makes you feel relieved.
"Actual happiness always looks pretty squalid in comparison with the overcompensations for misery."
TheSwamp
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1497 Posts
May 09 2013 03:07 GMT
#135
If you were just running around your house screaming and punching things like a two year old, I would say, "Who gives a fuck?" But the fact that you put other people's lives in danger by driving recklessly and are not willing to seek the help you obviously need, or just quit this VIDEO GAME makes really angry. Imagine you run a red light and kill some kid crossing the street. For what? Because some kid on ladder four gated you? Get you priorities in order.
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ThisWillBEz
Profile Joined August 2010
United States120 Posts
May 09 2013 03:16 GMT
#136
Maybe try channelling your post loss energy into something productive? I do pushups after every really frustrating loss
Lauriel
Profile Joined October 2012
United States108 Posts
May 09 2013 03:20 GMT
#137
On May 09 2013 12:07 TheSwamp wrote:
If you were just running around your house screaming and punching things like a two year old, I would say, "Who gives a fuck?" But the fact that you put other people's lives in danger by driving recklessly and are not willing to seek the help you obviously need, or just quit this VIDEO GAME makes really angry. Imagine you run a red light and kill some kid crossing the street. For what? Because some kid on ladder four gated you? Get you priorities in order.


That's a valid point. I should clarify about the driving.

It's not that I drive recklessly, or take ridiculous risks in the car. It's more that I'm driving angry. I haven't done anything truly reckless though. Driving angry is still dangerous, however.
s3rp
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany3192 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-09 03:30:00
May 09 2013 03:29 GMT
#138
Is there something that you enjoy and normally makes you feel calm ? Be it music ( it doesn't have be relaxation music ) , a funny youtube-video , a particular type of food you really enjoy or a beverage , or a quick conversation with your girlfriend , something anything ?

nstrike
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada9 Posts
May 09 2013 03:29 GMT
#139
You mentioned that it often takes a few losses before you rage, which presents you with an opportunity to intervene and regulate your emotions before they get out of control.

Pay attention to your emotional state as you are playing (or at the end of each game). Learn to identify the physical signs of anger that your body presents (such as increased heart rate, quicker breathing, feeling hot in the face, clenched muscles, repetitive movements, etc.). As you identify these physical manifestations of your increasing rage, tell yourself to take a break and use calming strategies (deep slow breathing, go for a run, etc.). Interrupt the cycle before it gets out of control.

You may also find it helpful to keep a journal. After each game, do a quick write of what happened and how you felt. Not only does doing this force you to take time between losses, but it also forces you to pay attention to your emotional state (and might even be a worthwhile sc2 improvement strategy). The key to this is building the habit of journaling while you are not upset.

The earlier advice about being mindful of precipitating factors (not enough sleep, lack of exercise, skipping meals, family or work stress) is excellent as well. Know that any of these factors increases the likelihood of a rage attack.

There is nothing wrong with feeling angry, and each of us has different triggers. The key is being able to ensure that we are in control of our anger, and we do not let it control us. So we need to be mindful of our emotional state, and take actions that will regulate our emotions before they get out of control.
MichaelDonovan
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1453 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-09 03:32:41
May 09 2013 03:30 GMT
#140
Wow dude. Just like, don't do those things? It's not difficult. It really really isn't. Unless you're mentally challenged in some way such that you are truly honestly unable to control yourself, in which case you should seek professional help and medication. Otherwise really dude, it's not hard to just like, not punch a wall. When you're about to punch a wall, just don't do that instead.

Edit: I should also say that if you really can't heed this advice, it means that you do in fact need medication of some sort and NOTHING any of us could possibly say to you is going to help.
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