No English OGN broadcast for SK Planet Proleague? - Page 30

On December 07 2012 06:07 Anomi wrote:

If i am not wrong the free stream would be allow quality one and the KEspa wants the high quality stream to be free. also if ogn have the English licen then every other organisation will have to pay a licen fee to have content with the kespa players. This seem to be the reason why the proleuge/mlg was a ppv and not free

On December 07 2012 06:01 Talin wrote:


One would hope that they can get some of the people that cast their live events to do it. The level and prestige of competition definitely warrants hiring somebody else to do it, at least on irregular basis. Without the requirement to fly to Korea, at least there's a significantly larger pool of people to choose from, that was my point.

On December 07 2012 06:09 Fischbacher wrote:

480p free, 720p + VODs for 5.99/month. Way better than "re-streamed whenever from wherever + no livestream".

Essentially OGN was going to do the same thing GOM is doing.

On December 07 2012 06:12 bduddy wrote:
Can you (and others) stop randomly spouting BS when you have no idea what you're talking about? It feels like 3/4 of the posts in this thread are based on advancing or defending or refuting some random theory or attack with absolutely no evidence behind it, and now people are randomly pitchforking MLG or OGN for absolutely no reason... I'm not saying they're totally blameless or it's all KeSPA's fault, but all we really know is based on one post by one person (not saying Doa is lying, but he could easily be mistaken, have misheard something, whatever) and people are making ridiculous leaps...

On December 07 2012 05:50 coasts wrote:
Who cares, listening to Korean guys shout, while you have no idea what they are saying, is one of the best parts of Starcaft.

On December 07 2012 06:10 Tobblish wrote:


That chance is very very very small.
First you would need to contract a set of casters for a full year and with it they wouldn't be able to cast other premier events thats on.

Don't see it happening with anyone else than the inhouse MLG casters =/
But yeah it's a nice way of thinking of a way to do it.

On December 07 2012 06:11 Tobblish wrote:


Only things is that it would only include the weekend OGN stream and their Vods.
The weekend Kespa inhouse stream would be without English stream and Vods. (correct)
It's offtopic either way but it's crazy to me why this wasn't sorted at least a month in advance >_>

On December 07 2012 06:13 Anomi wrote:



here is a couple of tweets from mlg on this : http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=386513

On December 07 2012 06:13 Talin wrote:


You wouldn't need to contract people for the full year, it's more of a one-off thing. You could do it the way IPL used to do it for their weekly productions (at least they used to, haven't watched a lot lately) - a lot of the time it's done by inhouse casters, but they rotated in a lot of NA casters, TB has been on, a few progamers have been on, etc. And Proleague is obviously a bigger deal than IPL TAC or FC, so MLG should be aware of the level of production they need to put in. With all the hype around EG/TL, I think they will be.

At the end of the day, if quality isn't always there, then at least the variety can be.

On December 07 2012 03:53 Tminus____ wrote:
o0ooo0o0ophidian we need that casting back even if its on ustream or whatever if twitch is having it and mlg is not having an english stream. say you can <3 How can we not have a good english cast for proleague.

On December 06 2012 21:52 DoA wrote:
I just got hit with some pretty hard to take news. OnGameNet will not be broadcasting the SK Planet Proleague this season in English. As that sinks in, let me elaborate on exactly why this is and where we're at now.

Basically for a while now KeSPA has been preparing their own broadcasting platform (IEG, which is owned by KeSPA) to presumably run events from. KeSPA's had a long history of doing their best to control everything that goes on in Korean esports so it's not shocking that they'd want to get into actually running the broadcasts as well. Proleague in fact is a result of KeSPA threatening to pull their players from both OGN and MBC's individual leagues if they didn't give up their respective team leagues and broadcast Proleague instead.

This season KeSPA decided to run their own Proleague broadcast initially on weekdays, while OGN ran the weekend broadcast. As far as I know about a week ago KeSPA approached OGN and told them that they'd be running their own stream simultaneously with OGN's on weekends as well. They'd also be sending a commentator they had picked themselves to tri-cast with Monte Cristo and I. Naturally OGN was upset about this and Monte and I were a bit reluctant to tri-cast with someone we'd never worked with before. OGN went back to have talks yesterday and today with KeSPA and things did not go well. KeSPA has also been approaching english casters about the job, but so far none have accepted that I'm aware of. Not surprising.

As of right now OGN will not be involved with Proleague at any level for an English broadcast as far as I'm aware. All the preparation by the staff here over the last few months is now for nothing. Needless to say I'm crushed. I'm enjoying LoL, but I came back to Korea to cast Starcraft 2. We've still got OSL (which OGN owns), but SC2 team leagues are basically my favorite thing in the entire world and now that's gone.

So what do we get as fans of Proleague now? I still want to see these matches as much as anyone, but I'm frankly tired of KeSPA's lame ploys to try to keep control over something they never should have been in control if in the first place. For me it certainly sours the mood for what will be an epic first match between KT and EG.TL. I don't have any information about EIG's streams or when the broadcasts will be. If I find out I'll tell people. As hard as all this is to take, I want you guys to be able to watch if you want to.

Is there a possibility things might change? Possibly. If KeSPA feels enough pressure they might bend. I'm certainly going to do everything I can. What I'm not going to do is tell you to boycott Proleague. That's your choice and I don't have any business telling you not to watch a game and players that you love because of idiotic corporate politics that you aren't a part of and frankly don't deserve to be hurt by. I feel it's important people know what's going on behind the scenes sometimes, but it's best to focus on the game.

That's all I've got for now. If I get any updates I'll pass them on via my twitter. (@ggdoa)

Apparently MLG might be involved in some way with an English broadcast per MLG Lee's Twitter? If that's the case then I wish them the best of luck and a great season.

On December 07 2012 06:28 hifriend wrote:
I understand why doa would be pissed since he's out of a job but why is everyone else so riled up? :S

And what exactly are you trying to say with a comment like that?
Nothing in those tweets have anything to do with what ever argument you are trying to make.