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Kooun
Profile Joined January 2009
Canada260 Posts
December 06 2012 21:35 GMT
#601
This kind of thing doesn't affect me at all. I always prefer listening to korean casters because they sound interesting even though I don't understand it.
Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
December 06 2012 21:45 GMT
#602
Im very confused at what this means but if there is an english proleague stream somewhere with good casting I will watch and not care. The OGN stream was fairly aweful so getting rid of it would have its obvious benefits but if they dont have alternative already ready then it might just be jumping the gun a bit.
ShivaN
Profile Joined January 2007
United States933 Posts
December 06 2012 21:47 GMT
#603
KeSPA goes through all this work to fill the last team spot, and with a FOREIGNER team no less. You'd think they'd realize how big our scene is to eSports by this point and how huge this is for us. Another ridiculous move, in a long history or bad decisions by KeSPA. They have to know that bringing in EG-TL is going to skyrocket foreign veiwership, how can they justify screwing us over like this now? They really need to wake up and realize they don't have all the control anymore and aren't getting it back.
munchmunch
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada789 Posts
December 06 2012 21:54 GMT
#604
On December 07 2012 06:26 oOOoOphidian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2012 03:53 Tminus____ wrote:
o0ooo0o0ophidian we need that casting back even if its on ustream or whatever if twitch is having it and mlg is not having an english stream. say you can <3 How can we not have a good english cast for proleague.

Yes, of course. I haven't talked to anyone about doing it officially, but if there isn't an English broadcast, I'll do it.
This could actually be good. I like professional English-language commentary over Korean-language commentary, but there was always something special about watching restreams on TL.
Hollandrock
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom158 Posts
December 06 2012 22:03 GMT
#605
What the hell is wrong with KESPA??!?! Do they not know what this would mean to the 'foreigner' scene - having the EG-TL games broadcast? I feel so bad for DoA especially ... That is totally disrespectful, and even stupid.

I think EG-TL should boycott the competition if this doesn't get sorted...
mark05
Profile Joined March 2009
Canada807 Posts
December 06 2012 22:08 GMT
#606
If MLG cast this thery NEEEED to hire DOA for the job !
yes, I'm MarkOhFive
negativedge
Profile Joined December 2011
4279 Posts
December 06 2012 22:11 GMT
#607
You'd fucking think KeSPA would learn something from GOM's foreign success. Wishful thinking, I know. They're going to do their best to kill SC2.
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5599 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-06 22:12:06
December 06 2012 22:11 GMT
#608
On December 07 2012 06:30 tokinho wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2012 21:52 DoA wrote:
I just got hit with some pretty hard to take news. OnGameNet will not be broadcasting the SK Planet Proleague this season in English. As that sinks in, let me elaborate on exactly why this is and where we're at now.

Basically for a while now KeSPA has been preparing their own broadcasting platform (IEG, which is owned by KeSPA) to presumably run events from. KeSPA's had a long history of doing their best to control everything that goes on in Korean esports so it's not shocking that they'd want to get into actually running the broadcasts as well. Proleague in fact is a result of KeSPA threatening to pull their players from both OGN and MBC's individual leagues if they didn't give up their respective team leagues and broadcast Proleague instead.

This season KeSPA decided to run their own Proleague broadcast initially on weekdays, while OGN ran the weekend broadcast. As far as I know about a week ago KeSPA approached OGN and told them that they'd be running their own stream simultaneously with OGN's on weekends as well. They'd also be sending a commentator they had picked themselves to tri-cast with Monte Cristo and I. Naturally OGN was upset about this and Monte and I were a bit reluctant to tri-cast with someone we'd never worked with before. OGN went back to have talks yesterday and today with KeSPA and things did not go well. KeSPA has also been approaching english casters about the job, but so far none have accepted that I'm aware of. Not surprising.

As of right now OGN will not be involved with Proleague at any level for an English broadcast as far as I'm aware. All the preparation by the staff here over the last few months is now for nothing. Needless to say I'm crushed. I'm enjoying LoL, but I came back to Korea to cast Starcraft 2. We've still got OSL (which OGN owns), but SC2 team leagues are basically my favorite thing in the entire world and now that's gone.

So what do we get as fans of Proleague now? I still want to see these matches as much as anyone, but I'm frankly tired of KeSPA's lame ploys to try to keep control over something they never should have been in control if in the first place. For me it certainly sours the mood for what will be an epic first match between KT and EG.TL. I don't have any information about EIG's streams or when the broadcasts will be. If I find out I'll tell people. As hard as all this is to take, I want you guys to be able to watch if you want to.

Is there a possibility things might change? Possibly. If KeSPA feels enough pressure they might bend. I'm certainly going to do everything I can. What I'm not going to do is tell you to boycott Proleague. That's your choice and I don't have any business telling you not to watch a game and players that you love because of idiotic corporate politics that you aren't a part of and frankly don't deserve to be hurt by. I feel it's important people know what's going on behind the scenes sometimes, but it's best to focus on the game.

That's all I've got for now. If I get any updates I'll pass them on via my twitter. (@ggdoa)

Apparently MLG might be involved in some way with an English broadcast per MLG Lee's Twitter? If that's the case then I wish them the best of luck and a great season.


What happened to SAYLE?! @#$%@ He's the best caster for proleague and doesn't even deserve a mention..... What is going on?

why is everyone talking about Sayle? he hates sc2.
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
Vorenius
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Denmark1979 Posts
December 06 2012 22:16 GMT
#609
I can't wait for the new GSTL next year
Iodem
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1173 Posts
December 06 2012 22:18 GMT
#610
On December 07 2012 06:26 oOOoOphidian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2012 03:53 Tminus____ wrote:
o0ooo0o0ophidian we need that casting back even if its on ustream or whatever if twitch is having it and mlg is not having an english stream. say you can <3 How can we not have a good english cast for proleague.

Yes, of course. I haven't talked to anyone about doing it officially, but if there isn't an English broadcast, I'll do it.


with Cresse please :D
If you don't like it, you can quit.
Lovedoll
Profile Joined November 2011
Japan540 Posts
December 06 2012 22:21 GMT
#611
I wasn't expecting there to be an english broadcast, so this does not surprise me at all. I also enjoy korean broadcasts very much so this is totally okay with me.
Spread your eggs until they crack!
CV-Mackh
Profile Joined April 2012
France102 Posts
December 06 2012 22:21 GMT
#612
And this is why we love GOM and hate Kespa, GoM shall invite some of the Kespa teams at the GSTL and watch Proleague die in peace in all their arrogance,..
Just a few more drones I sware !
Solarsail
Profile Joined July 2012
United Kingdom538 Posts
December 06 2012 22:22 GMT
#613
On December 07 2012 07:11 Elroi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2012 06:30 tokinho wrote:
On December 06 2012 21:52 DoA wrote:
I just got hit with some pretty hard to take news. OnGameNet will not be broadcasting the SK Planet Proleague this season in English. As that sinks in, let me elaborate on exactly why this is and where we're at now.

Basically for a while now KeSPA has been preparing their own broadcasting platform (IEG, which is owned by KeSPA) to presumably run events from. KeSPA's had a long history of doing their best to control everything that goes on in Korean esports so it's not shocking that they'd want to get into actually running the broadcasts as well. Proleague in fact is a result of KeSPA threatening to pull their players from both OGN and MBC's individual leagues if they didn't give up their respective team leagues and broadcast Proleague instead.

This season KeSPA decided to run their own Proleague broadcast initially on weekdays, while OGN ran the weekend broadcast. As far as I know about a week ago KeSPA approached OGN and told them that they'd be running their own stream simultaneously with OGN's on weekends as well. They'd also be sending a commentator they had picked themselves to tri-cast with Monte Cristo and I. Naturally OGN was upset about this and Monte and I were a bit reluctant to tri-cast with someone we'd never worked with before. OGN went back to have talks yesterday and today with KeSPA and things did not go well. KeSPA has also been approaching english casters about the job, but so far none have accepted that I'm aware of. Not surprising.

As of right now OGN will not be involved with Proleague at any level for an English broadcast as far as I'm aware. All the preparation by the staff here over the last few months is now for nothing. Needless to say I'm crushed. I'm enjoying LoL, but I came back to Korea to cast Starcraft 2. We've still got OSL (which OGN owns), but SC2 team leagues are basically my favorite thing in the entire world and now that's gone.

So what do we get as fans of Proleague now? I still want to see these matches as much as anyone, but I'm frankly tired of KeSPA's lame ploys to try to keep control over something they never should have been in control if in the first place. For me it certainly sours the mood for what will be an epic first match between KT and EG.TL. I don't have any information about EIG's streams or when the broadcasts will be. If I find out I'll tell people. As hard as all this is to take, I want you guys to be able to watch if you want to.

Is there a possibility things might change? Possibly. If KeSPA feels enough pressure they might bend. I'm certainly going to do everything I can. What I'm not going to do is tell you to boycott Proleague. That's your choice and I don't have any business telling you not to watch a game and players that you love because of idiotic corporate politics that you aren't a part of and frankly don't deserve to be hurt by. I feel it's important people know what's going on behind the scenes sometimes, but it's best to focus on the game.

That's all I've got for now. If I get any updates I'll pass them on via my twitter. (@ggdoa)

Apparently MLG might be involved in some way with an English broadcast per MLG Lee's Twitter? If that's the case then I wish them the best of luck and a great season.


What happened to SAYLE?! @#$%@ He's the best caster for proleague and doesn't even deserve a mention..... What is going on?

why is everyone talking about Sayle? he hates sc2.


He had said he wouldn't necessarily reject an offer to go to Korea and cast for OGN, knowing full well that it would be pure SC2.
Everyone left over is a member of the OP race and you have to figure out which one of them is the least OP. - CosmicSpiral
rauk
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States2228 Posts
December 06 2012 22:25 GMT
#614
On December 07 2012 07:11 Elroi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2012 06:30 tokinho wrote:
On December 06 2012 21:52 DoA wrote:
I just got hit with some pretty hard to take news. OnGameNet will not be broadcasting the SK Planet Proleague this season in English. As that sinks in, let me elaborate on exactly why this is and where we're at now.

Basically for a while now KeSPA has been preparing their own broadcasting platform (IEG, which is owned by KeSPA) to presumably run events from. KeSPA's had a long history of doing their best to control everything that goes on in Korean esports so it's not shocking that they'd want to get into actually running the broadcasts as well. Proleague in fact is a result of KeSPA threatening to pull their players from both OGN and MBC's individual leagues if they didn't give up their respective team leagues and broadcast Proleague instead.

This season KeSPA decided to run their own Proleague broadcast initially on weekdays, while OGN ran the weekend broadcast. As far as I know about a week ago KeSPA approached OGN and told them that they'd be running their own stream simultaneously with OGN's on weekends as well. They'd also be sending a commentator they had picked themselves to tri-cast with Monte Cristo and I. Naturally OGN was upset about this and Monte and I were a bit reluctant to tri-cast with someone we'd never worked with before. OGN went back to have talks yesterday and today with KeSPA and things did not go well. KeSPA has also been approaching english casters about the job, but so far none have accepted that I'm aware of. Not surprising.

As of right now OGN will not be involved with Proleague at any level for an English broadcast as far as I'm aware. All the preparation by the staff here over the last few months is now for nothing. Needless to say I'm crushed. I'm enjoying LoL, but I came back to Korea to cast Starcraft 2. We've still got OSL (which OGN owns), but SC2 team leagues are basically my favorite thing in the entire world and now that's gone.

So what do we get as fans of Proleague now? I still want to see these matches as much as anyone, but I'm frankly tired of KeSPA's lame ploys to try to keep control over something they never should have been in control if in the first place. For me it certainly sours the mood for what will be an epic first match between KT and EG.TL. I don't have any information about EIG's streams or when the broadcasts will be. If I find out I'll tell people. As hard as all this is to take, I want you guys to be able to watch if you want to.

Is there a possibility things might change? Possibly. If KeSPA feels enough pressure they might bend. I'm certainly going to do everything I can. What I'm not going to do is tell you to boycott Proleague. That's your choice and I don't have any business telling you not to watch a game and players that you love because of idiotic corporate politics that you aren't a part of and frankly don't deserve to be hurt by. I feel it's important people know what's going on behind the scenes sometimes, but it's best to focus on the game.

That's all I've got for now. If I get any updates I'll pass them on via my twitter. (@ggdoa)

Apparently MLG might be involved in some way with an English broadcast per MLG Lee's Twitter? If that's the case then I wish them the best of luck and a great season.


What happened to SAYLE?! @#$%@ He's the best caster for proleague and doesn't even deserve a mention..... What is going on?

why is everyone talking about Sayle? he hates sc2.


because sc2 is glorious and anyone who thinks broodwar is a better game is a slackjawed yokel
Laplaces_imp
Profile Joined January 2012
368 Posts
December 06 2012 22:26 GMT
#615
i am surprised that the two parties didn't do their utmost to come to a comprimise, I don't want to call the foreign fan base huge, but it IS sizable, and they are throwing away potentially thousands of viewers, maybe more by not resolving this. I still will try to watch this, but dang. Just wish that there was some way us viewers could let them know politely that we would really appreciate some english casters
iamcaustic
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada1509 Posts
December 06 2012 22:31 GMT
#616
That really sucks to hear DoA. I was really looking forward to hearing you and MonteCristo cast the opening EG-TL vs. KT match.
Twitter: @iamcaustic
IMLyte
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada714 Posts
December 06 2012 22:34 GMT
#617
Sayle, PLEASE SAVE US ;O
I'ma show you how great I am ~ Muhammed Ali
Shinespark
Profile Joined June 2011
Chile843 Posts
December 06 2012 22:36 GMT
#618
For the first time a foreign team plays in proleague and there's no english stream. Kespa will die eventually, I just know it.
"I, for one, welcome our new Korean overlords."
aRyuujin
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5049 Posts
December 06 2012 22:41 GMT
#619
fuck

god damn it kespa why you gotta be such an asshole
can i get my estro logo back pls
Sacrilege
Profile Joined December 2011
United States199 Posts
December 06 2012 22:41 GMT
#620
This is quite disappointing :/
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