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Laurens
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium4558 Posts
November 06 2012 17:28 GMT
#81
On November 07 2012 02:26 rd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2012 02:22 Satiinifi wrote:
On November 07 2012 02:18 rd wrote:
On November 07 2012 01:26 aTnClouD wrote:
How can he think the game is fine when people are leaving SC2 to watch League of Legends? There are serious issues that are shrinking the amount of people interested in the game and watching tournaments and all he can say is that the winrates and race distributions are fine. The incompetence and arrogance shown by David Kim make speechless every time. Seriously he's so bad at his job.


Nothing Blizzard can do will prevent the inevitable decline of the SC2 player base, rather stem it with content for as long as they can. Which they are. The issues are serious but not nearly as bad as you exaggerate them to be. SC2 is thriving and will be for a long time. LoL will die at some point too. The LoL and SC2 comparisons are getting really stale...




How about maybe his thinking about the potential in sc2, it could stay even bigger than it is now with proper care, and about the terran players whom put a TON of time into this game trying to earn something from it and are nearly getting nothing in return right now, seems that another terran player just retired on top of the hundred that already quit.


Are you implying that 100 pro terrans have quit?


not pro, just terran, he's probably right
Satiinifi
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland192 Posts
November 06 2012 17:28 GMT
#82
On November 07 2012 02:26 rd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2012 02:22 Satiinifi wrote:
On November 07 2012 02:18 rd wrote:
On November 07 2012 01:26 aTnClouD wrote:
How can he think the game is fine when people are leaving SC2 to watch League of Legends? There are serious issues that are shrinking the amount of people interested in the game and watching tournaments and all he can say is that the winrates and race distributions are fine. The incompetence and arrogance shown by David Kim make speechless every time. Seriously he's so bad at his job.


Nothing Blizzard can do will prevent the inevitable decline of the SC2 player base, rather stem it with content for as long as they can. Which they are. The issues are serious but not nearly as bad as you exaggerate them to be. SC2 is thriving and will be for a long time. LoL will die at some point too. The LoL and SC2 comparisons are getting really stale...




How about maybe his thinking about the potential in sc2, it could stay even bigger than it is now with proper care, and about the terran players whom put a TON of time into this game trying to earn something from it and are nearly getting nothing in return right now, seems that another terran player just retired on top of the hundred that already quit.


Are you implying that 100 pro terrans have quit?



Around that yes
rd
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2586 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-06 17:35:05
November 06 2012 17:29 GMT
#83
On November 07 2012 02:28 Laurens wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2012 02:26 rd wrote:
On November 07 2012 02:22 Satiinifi wrote:
On November 07 2012 02:18 rd wrote:
On November 07 2012 01:26 aTnClouD wrote:
How can he think the game is fine when people are leaving SC2 to watch League of Legends? There are serious issues that are shrinking the amount of people interested in the game and watching tournaments and all he can say is that the winrates and race distributions are fine. The incompetence and arrogance shown by David Kim make speechless every time. Seriously he's so bad at his job.


Nothing Blizzard can do will prevent the inevitable decline of the SC2 player base, rather stem it with content for as long as they can. Which they are. The issues are serious but not nearly as bad as you exaggerate them to be. SC2 is thriving and will be for a long time. LoL will die at some point too. The LoL and SC2 comparisons are getting really stale...




How about maybe his thinking about the potential in sc2, it could stay even bigger than it is now with proper care, and about the terran players whom put a TON of time into this game trying to earn something from it and are nearly getting nothing in return right now, seems that another terran player just retired on top of the hundred that already quit.


Are you implying that 100 pro terrans have quit?


not pro, just terran, he's probably right


Why would you state only "a hundred" terrans have quit when there are hundreds quitting -- not just Terrans, of all races. It's only reasonable to assume he meant professional Terrans, as citing random numbers of terrans quitting offers no credence to the SC2 dying due to Blizzard's lack of intervention argument. People quit all the time for many reasons and it's inevitable.

On November 07 2012 02:28 Satiinifi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2012 02:26 rd wrote:
On November 07 2012 02:22 Satiinifi wrote:
On November 07 2012 02:18 rd wrote:
On November 07 2012 01:26 aTnClouD wrote:
How can he think the game is fine when people are leaving SC2 to watch League of Legends? There are serious issues that are shrinking the amount of people interested in the game and watching tournaments and all he can say is that the winrates and race distributions are fine. The incompetence and arrogance shown by David Kim make speechless every time. Seriously he's so bad at his job.


Nothing Blizzard can do will prevent the inevitable decline of the SC2 player base, rather stem it with content for as long as they can. Which they are. The issues are serious but not nearly as bad as you exaggerate them to be. SC2 is thriving and will be for a long time. LoL will die at some point too. The LoL and SC2 comparisons are getting really stale...




How about maybe his thinking about the potential in sc2, it could stay even bigger than it is now with proper care, and about the terran players whom put a TON of time into this game trying to earn something from it and are nearly getting nothing in return right now, seems that another terran player just retired on top of the hundred that already quit.


Are you implying that 100 pro terrans have quit?



Around that yes


Name 20. Lol.
mikedebo
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4341 Posts
November 06 2012 17:30 GMT
#84
OMG if interceptors are made immune to fungal growth, I WILL WANK WITH JOY!
I NEED A PHOTOSYNTHESIS! ||| 'airtoss' is an anagram of 'artosis' ||| SANGHOOOOOO ||| "No Korea? No problem. I have internet." -- Stardust
Satiinifi
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland192 Posts
November 06 2012 17:30 GMT
#85
If we count all terrans that have quit the number would probly be 50% of all the terrans that ever played
tomwizz
Profile Joined October 2010
524 Posts
November 06 2012 17:31 GMT
#86
It's sad when i know that thier job is just to balance the winrate.
Chaggi
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)1936 Posts
November 06 2012 17:32 GMT
#87
On November 07 2012 02:31 tomwizz wrote:
It's sad when i know that thier job is just to balance the winrate.


Honestly that's what I got out of this which is really sad
ChApFoU
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
France2986 Posts
November 06 2012 17:34 GMT
#88
We sure keep getting atrociously owned in international competition but we definitely save the day when it comes to endless whining and dead horse beating ^^

BL infest is too strong late game + Blizz do not say they are going to swing the nerfbat tomorrow = SC2 foreign community collapses in tears.
"I honestly think that whoever invented toilet paper in a genius" Kang Min
wongfeihung
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States763 Posts
November 06 2012 17:35 GMT
#89
On November 07 2012 02:01 avilo wrote:
Both Terran and Protoss have nothing solid against broodlord/infestor in the lategame, and brood/infestor is literally the best option Zerg has right now which is bad too.

The addition of Tempests into a Protoss' late-game composition works pretty well against Broodlord/Infestor, in my experience.
rd
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2586 Posts
November 06 2012 17:37 GMT
#90
On November 07 2012 02:30 Satiinifi wrote:
If we count all terrans that have quit the number would probly be 50% of all the terrans that ever played


So you just made up 100 pro terrans quitting, great. Feel free to prove the other number you made up too -- and that they're all due to the reasons you cited.
Wildmoon
Profile Joined December 2011
Thailand4189 Posts
November 06 2012 17:40 GMT
#91
hmm seem like I have read different interview from ost people here. From what I read DK acknowledged the problem about BL/Infestor. He even admited that there's design flaw but he just stated that Zeg's dominance is not an issue which is true... Don't know what everyone is talking about here...
desRow
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2654 Posts
November 06 2012 17:41 GMT
#92
T_T looks like it's gonna be a struggle to beat BL infestor for a lot longer and I don't see how tempest can deal with infestor tbh
http://twitch.tv/desrowfighting http://twitter.com/desrowfighting http://facebook.com/desrowfighting
speknek
Profile Joined February 2012
758 Posts
November 06 2012 17:41 GMT
#93
wow didn't expect him to still deny the obvious broken state of the game, very sad
sertas
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden890 Posts
November 06 2012 17:41 GMT
#94
I dont see a bright future for sc2 since they just dont seem to realise that zerg massing infestors in every single matchup is not good for the game. Its extremly one dimentional and is starting to get boring. If hots will not change this i will be very dissapointed.
Fjodorov
Profile Joined December 2011
5007 Posts
November 06 2012 17:42 GMT
#95
im very disappointed in DK to say the least...
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
November 06 2012 17:44 GMT
#96
That interview is good news.
I'm a bit afraid by the talk about not changing the Infestors ( even with better counter, the unit is still very poisonous to enjoyement overall ) but everthign else seems cool !

I really want to see what they can do redesigning the Raven. If SK Terran was viable in TvZ, that would make so happy.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
BronzeKnee
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5226 Posts
November 06 2012 17:45 GMT
#97
On November 07 2012 00:39 benthekid wrote:
Typical recycled answers of Race distribution are fine and winrate is fine. Such garbage...I'm pretty sure they don't even play or watch the game anymore.

My thoughts exactly, and he isn't sure Broodlord/Infestor is a problem?

The matchups may be balanced, but Infestors make the game boring.
mishimaBeef
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada2259 Posts
November 06 2012 17:45 GMT
#98
GOOD JOB NONY for making that carrier post... looks like we might have our leash micro back
Dare to live the life you have dreamed for yourself. Go forward and make your dreams come true. - Ralph Waldo Emerson
mishimaBeef
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada2259 Posts
November 06 2012 17:46 GMT
#99
On November 07 2012 02:45 BronzeKnee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2012 00:39 benthekid wrote:
Typical recycled answers of Race distribution are fine and winrate is fine. Such garbage...I'm pretty sure they don't even play or watch the game anymore.

My thoughts exactly, and he isn't sure Broodlord/Infestor is a problem?

The matchups may be balanced, but Infestors make the game boring.


I believe he stated he thinks there is a flaw in the design
Dare to live the life you have dreamed for yourself. Go forward and make your dreams come true. - Ralph Waldo Emerson
mishimaBeef
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada2259 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-06 17:50:12
November 06 2012 17:47 GMT
#100
i think BL festor is more of a problem because of zerg having two strong anti air options and a backup anti air option.

Corruptor + Infested Terran = good anti air
Offensive Queens for transfuse = also decent support anti air

Hence, broodlords crush the ground and zerg can react to the air threats....

Maybe if corruptor DID NOT morph into brood lord?

EDIT:

what i think would be cool: fast moving, mutated "scourge" with no attacks... they morph into either corruptor or brood lords

scale cost accordingly... (i.e. mutated scourge cost is low, corruptor morph medium, brood lord morph high)
Dare to live the life you have dreamed for yourself. Go forward and make your dreams come true. - Ralph Waldo Emerson
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